How to live without an antivirus?

[Deleted Member 3a5v73x]

@cruelsister Good example, it might be possible, but my parents wouldn't be aware of that, thats why they ask why i install other AV for them (most probably can be shut down as well, but it depends on too many things, and i'm not into such critical thinking as i believe it can be done if you are targeted only) but even then, they are not so advanced to learn CF even if autosandbox is set-up, because Comodo will eventually ask them something, and i can't control CF remotely, so best possible option for me is to use 3th party AV for them, force-use sandbox on browser, disable wscript and powershell auto-commands, some other tweaks, and have a backup of their PC's and most important documents, that's basically it. Or i could just buy AppGuard, but then i would need 5PC license, and that would cost me kinda a lot, so that's not happening anytime soon. I believe that there are many ways to keep system protected, even with just in-built windows tools, but it depends on each individual system and user knowledge/needs for their specific work, and since my parents remotely work from home, i have to take different security measures to keep my family protected.

 

[BugCode]

CF is enough, for settings like sis cruel have, (videos here in MT) of course you could modified settings if you know what you doing. Little money and SD you are more than ready. Wise words of many guru's here in topic :thumbs up:

 

[Amelith Nargothrond]

You could also use a Sophos UTM box or other similar alternatives.

 

[Quassar]

If you wanna refuse AV in real time you need have virtual system and (or) sandbox facing apps.
VMware wokstation / Sandboxie at last Shadow Defender..
Create separete disk access for each aplications in virtual content.
You need apps which improve you SRP and give control on system like SpyShelter... ExeRadar, AppGuard etc.

 

[Amelith Nargothrond]

If you wanna refuse AV in real time you need have virtual system and (or) sandbox facing apps.
VMware wokstation / Sandboxie at last Shadow Defender..
Create separete disk access for each aplications in virtual content.
You need apps which improve you SRP and give control on system like SpyShelter... ExeRadar, AppGuard etc.

To be more specific (my previous post was hasty, sorry):
Or if you don't want to overload your system, a Sophos UTM (or similar) will protect you from stuff before reaching to your computer, even https traffic if well configured. It's a firewall/AV/malware filter box, anything goes in or out is scanned before it reaches your PC or goes out, on a separate server. Expect delays though and traffic slowdowns

If you don't want any AV's at all anywhere... well, pull your network cable out, use poxipol to seal your USB ports and ditch your DVD writer

 

[ForgottenSeer 55474]

Hello,I could not imagine my Laptop without Bitdefender,Malwarebytes Premium and Zemana Premium,but that is just me
P.S.:and Hitmanpro of course

 

[Amelith Nargothrond]

I could not imagine the world without security products. I mean if i look around, read the news... this is hacked, that was "ransomwared"... to many bad boys and girls out there not to protect yourself

 

[cruelsister]

Any reason Zemana Anti-Malware Portable gets no love? It's free ans On-demand only. I'll be using it against a worm in tonight's video and you can contrast the results against MB and HMP, videos published previously.

 

[Amelith Nargothrond]

Any reason Zemana Anti-Malware Portable gets no love? It's free ans On-demand only. I'll be using it against a worm in tonight's video and you can contrast the results against MB and HMP, videos published previously.

The guy doesn't want any AV on his system (portable or otherwise), maybe this is the reason.

 

[jackuars]

The guy doesn't want any AV on his system (portable or otherwise), maybe this is the reason.

No, i mean only a resident antivirus that works real-time, because only this causes lag in performance. Zemana can be used on-demand.

Also I would appreciate if the suggestions being made are freeware softwares.

 

[Amelith Nargothrond]

As cruelsister said before, better to be safe than sorry, and good practice along with cautious online behavior is only part of the job, you can always get surprises even from the big names...

 

[Davidov]

Appsamvid its free super whitelist (alternative for appguard). Low system only 0.01 cpu.

 

[DJ Panda]

Honestly the system impact from Avast is almost non-existent to me. Products like Voodoosheild and an on demand scanner are really good options too!

 

[Ink]

I would like to have no antivirus installed on my system.

Use a slow computer that lags on every simple task, then you'll wish for no Antivirus.

Don't download any untrusted software, otherwise I think Sandboxie for your web browser is a good starting point.

I don't see why people are afraid of using no Antivirus on Windows, your PC won't combust.

 

[509322]

I don't see why people are afraid of using no Antivirus on Windows, your PC won't combust.

When I'm too concerned about the performance of my system, I would like to have no antivirus installed on my system.

How do you live in this scenario without getting infected, like when you go online or connect to external drives?

What software's do you use to protect you [in real-time and on-demand], except for using common sense [obviously], but sometimes I would not heed to it but download torrents and stuff.

In short you need to have a clean system at the end of the day. Preferrably at the cost of nothing.

All free...

• Simple Software Restriction Policy - IWR Consultancy
• Configurator - @Andy Ful
• Reboot Restore RX Free or Rollback RX Free - Horizon DataSys
• uBlock Origin
• CCleaner
• MicrosoftEdge or Chrome with AppContainer flag enabled

• Keep installed software updated
• Don't mess with your own head - implement a security config that makes sense, works for you personally on your specific system, and then stick with it instead of constantly changing it because you have doubts that it isn't 100 % protection 100 % of the time

The last point applies to at least 98% of all security soft forum participants

Figure it out... this is not difficult

 

[Danielx64]

There is a "simple" way. Use a antiexe, whitelist software. Most of the time, when not everytime it is way more effective than a av.

This is what I do on some of the user accounts at work: mostly public ones where the general public can access then. On top of that I also throw deepfreeze on then for added measure from unwanted changes.

 

[Deleted member 178]

Don't mess with your own head - implement a security config that makes sense, works for you personally on your specific system, and then stick with it instead of constantly changing it because you have doubts that it isn't 100 % protection 100 % of the time

Totally agree.

On top of that I also throw deepfreeze on then for added measure from unwanted changes.

Deepfreeze is good for public workstations.

 

[509322]

Totally agree.

@Umbra - of course none of this applies to you.

I can understand changing security softs because of (frequent) issues, but after trying different softs we all manage to find what works best for us personally on our specific systems.

If it works... stick with it... the best practice for your sanity and system protection is to ignore all the security articles, completely disregard all the FUD scuzzlebutt here at MT and over at Wilders, and don't chase the imaginary 100 % protection because it just don't exist.

If you think that you can make a 99.9999999 % secure system, well... go ahead and have at it. Eventually you will realize that it isn't worth all the problems, all the effort and all the time. Then, you learn and realize that you maybe got only to the 97 % range at best after weeks or months of hard effort.

 

[_CyberGhosT_]

I have been without a Traditional AV for some time, if you do your
homework it is not hard to do. At first my PC felt naked but I got
used to it. The first thing you notice is how fast and responsive your
system will become, even with a fast system. I have noticed the space
savings as well, not that I needed the space, but it is there.
When I started testing my system with no AV there were not as many
options as there are now. Now days it is rather easy to config a AV-less system.

 

[_CyberGhosT_]

completely disregard all the FUD scuzzlebutt here at MT and over at Wilders, and don't chase the imaginary 100 % protection because it just don't exist.

Fully agree with Jeff on this one. When I first started running without an AV people
told me I was stupid and wreckless. Of course I was a little hurt but I refused to listen,
and I am glad that I didn't.