I don't like 360 Total security

[MobilePCTech]

Panda and AVG are both crap. AVG is the king of false positives. If I install AVG it would quarantine every patch and keygen I have. Last month a customer brought me a PC I had sold them because it was unusable. I ran Emsisoft Free Emergency Kit and it only found 2 viruses but then I installed 360IS and it found 11 more and completely fixed the PC . I now install 360IS (NOT TS, IS is better) on every PC I work on.

 

[bitbizket]

Qihoo is over-rated IMO.
Yes it does have really good detection no doubt about that but in contrary at the wrong hands it can cause serious issues to your computer. High false detection is one thing, calling repair in pretext of removing/deleting files it find suspicious is a sure NO NO!

Just the other day had a customer with Qihoo installed trashed his computer. Deleted chunks of system files mostly dll's and wrongly blocking explorer.exe.

If anyone did skin patching (theming) remember that some unmature security products will find these files as tainted and may removed them causing serious damage to your computer.

If you have these kind of security products that likely to cause false detection make sure you have a full control of what you are deleting.
Most products allow changing the user action in their settings from the automated default.

Thanks

 

[MisterToto]

Panda and AVG are both crap. AVG is the king of false positives. If I install AVG it would quarantine every patch and keygen I have. Last month a customer brought me a PC I had sold them because it was unusable. I ran Emsisoft Free Emergency Kit and it only found 2 viruses but then I installed 360IS and it found 11 more and completely fixed the PC . I now install 360IS (NOT TS, IS is better) on every PC I work on.

Why IS is better than TS?

 

[darko999]

Qihoo is over-rated IMO.
Yes it does have really good detection no doubt about that but in contrary at the wrong hands it can cause serious issues to your computer. High false detection is one thing, calling repair in pretext of removing/deleting files it find suspicious is a sure NO NO!

Just the other day had a customer with Qihoo installed trashed his computer. Deleted chunks of system files mostly dll's and wrongly blocking explorer.exe.

If anyone did skin patching (theming) remember that some unmature security products will find these files as tainted and may removed them causing serious damage to your computer.

If you have these kind of security products that likely to cause false detection make sure you have a full control of what you are deleting.
Most products allow changing the user action in their settings from the automated default.

Thanks

Your message is overrated. Deleting chunks of system files? Lmao. I've installed Quihoo TS beta on my brother's computer since it's release and hes computer has been protected perfectly. He is a computer novice, he doesn't know anything about system functions, he only knows how to play a few games and surf the web, I told him to not touch TS settings at all. His computer is clean and non damaged. I believe people who will go touching settings and checking check box without a clue about it will always break something.

 

[NullPointerException]

Qihoo is good and stuff, but I would rather use ESET or Emsisoft. I will NEVER trust a free antivirus.
You probably disabled PUPs' detection. Because PUPs' detection is enabled by default.

 

[legendcampos]

These Antivírus which must detecting, are Tracking cookie.

 

[Ulikedat]

My experience with Qihoo so far: Had a few fp's with Total Security but nothing major like system files or anything. System impact seems rather low (they improved much in this regard) as opposed to around a year ago. I very much like the feature in TS to upload unknown/new files to the cloud for analysis wich gets dealt with rather quickly.

However with Qihoo Internet Security i've had zero fp's and as for the alien (BD,etc.) engines i do not believe they add any extra security, it's more for hype/populairity gains imo so i have them only enabled for manual scans. I have QVM disabled for realtime as well. Combine that with say Online Armor and you have a killer defense altho there is some HIPS overlapping (e.g. keylogger protection) going on but you can disable/enable anything you like.

 

[Oxygen]

My experience with Qihoo so far: Had a few fp's with Total Security but nothing major like system files or anything. System impact seems rather low (they improved much in this regard) as opposed to around a year ago. I very much like the feature in TS to upload unknown/new files to the cloud for analysis wich gets dealt with rather quickly.

However with Qihoo Internet Security i've had zero fp's and as for the alien (BD,etc.) engines i do not believe they add any extra security, it's more for hype/populairity gains imo so i have them only enabled for manual scans. I have QVM disabled for realtime as well. Combine that with say Online Armor and you have a killer defense altho there is some HIPS overlapping (e.g. keylogger protection) going on but you can disable/enable anything you like.

When I used it, it detected all system files. I don't know why though.

 

[jackuars]

However with Qihoo Internet Security i've had zero fp's and as for the alien (BD,etc.) engines i do not believe they add any extra security

Exactly the same for me too. And it seems that the independent lab result scores for Qihoo is for the IS version, where Qihoo IS scored 0 for most false-positive detections.

I'd like to see what happens when 360TS is sent for lab testing.

 

[darko999]

Exactly the same for me too. And it seems that the independent lab result scores for Qihoo is for the IS version, where Qihoo IS scored 0 for most false-positive detections.

I'd like to see what happens when 360TS is sent for lab testing.

Norton has a lot of FP and it's detection is quite bad compared to quihoo, yet is a major AV vendor that sells a lot. The thing is people like you should limit to use Avast, since it seems you can't afford free chinesse products doing better than the rest.
PD: Not to mention AVG, which is a joke.

 

[Striker]

Norton has a lot of FP and it's detection is quite bad compared to quihoo, yet is a major AV vendor that sells a lot. The thing is people like you should limit to use Avast, since it seems you can't afford free chinesse products doing better than the rest.
PD: Not to mention AVG, which is a joke.

Avg is quit nice, underrated. Norton in realworld detect way more malware,exploits than Qihoo and is just a better product and norton dont have that many fps. Im sure u mean with "detect more" is just the malware hub detection here. Rightclick scan is not the same as realworld. Its just signatures and norton have almost no signatures. test it urself with a full 1tb driver full of games, programs and other stuff that are not much used and u will see that qihoo act like anything is a malware. try to run some not popular games and u will get som much proactive popups from qihoo that its just become anoying.

 

[jackuars]

Norton has a lot of FP and it's detection is quite bad compared to quihoo, yet is a major AV vendor that sells a lot. The thing is people like you should limit to use Avast, since it seems you can't afford free chinesse products doing better than the rest.
PD: Not to mention AVG, which is a joke.

Am pretty happy using 360IS and TS on 2 separate systems.

Honestly it doesn't matter whatever antivirus I use, because there's only a fraction of a chance that I'm going to get infected.

 

[darko999]

Avg is quit nice, underrated. Norton in realworld detect way more malware,exploits than Qihoo and is just a better product and norton dont have that many fps. Im sure u mean with "detect more" is just the malware hub detection here. Rightclick scan is not the same as realworld. Its just signatures and norton have almost no signatures. test it urself with a full 1tb driver full of games, programs and other stuff that are not much used and u will see that qihoo act like anything is a malware. try to run some not popular games and u will get som much proactive popups from qihoo that its just become anoying.

No need for me to say anything good about Norton since I have tested it multiple times in VM environment and if failed deeply to protect the system from malware, same samples were handled better by ESET and Kaspersky. Real world test is relative, but a huge numer of samples missed by Norton means more chances to infect computers running Norton, simple fact. Different story with quihoo since it will protect you better. About games? IDK I don't use quihoo but I installed it on my brother's computer, he plays a few games and haven't had any issues.
PD: Avg is quite useless, underrated? their trash toolbar is well known all around LOL.

 

[Ulikedat]

I'm sure there is truth in all yall but i play games, populair ones and i've had no av flagging them whether it be Qihoo or w/e.

 

[bitbizket]

Your message is overrated. Deleting chunks of system files? Lmao. I've installed Quihoo TS beta on my brother's computer since it's release and hes computer has been protected perfectly. He is a computer novice, he doesn't know anything about system functions, he only knows how to play a few games and surf the web, I told him to not touch TS settings at all. His computer is clean and non damaged. I believe people who will go touching settings and checking check box without a clue about it will always break something.

I'll judge you not understtand what been written?

"If anyone did skin patching (theming) remember that some unmature security products will find these files as tainted and may removed them causing serious damage to your computer."

There are many varieties of theming programs around some are infact malware infected some are not, some are free and some are commercial ones.
In this particular machine of my client he installed a premium theming program which is quite popular among PC enthusiasts and gamers.
Since this is a paid product i can't recreate step by step images at your disposable.
Before skinning these files needs to be patch first: themeservice.dll, themeui.dll and uxtheme.dll.
When the actual theming process has taken place more critical system files are patched.

Critical system files include files with .dll, .exe, .ocx, and .sys file extensions. Some of these files are True Type fonts.
In addition, system state files, such as the systems registry, are required for the operating system to run properly.

Not many security product can distinguished between an actual infection from a purposedly patched ones.
Microsoft Removal Tool for instance will restore these files (themeservice.dll, themeui.dll and uxtheme.dll) automatically leaving the desktop partially skinned.

As i remember Avira recently has an option enabled by default to ignore these kinds of files but i can't remember what it's called.
Comodo too will detect these patched files as unknown or tampered but it does not recommend to removed them unlike Qihoo do.
When Qihoo detects a possible infection it will shown a list of detected files which has as a check box option so you can select what files to ignore (whitelisted).
What's more it recommended repair as option but the truth is Qihoo don't do repair it remove/delete and quarantined them.
(Given by example of Microsoft Removal Tool it does repairing job).
Even if you undo them from from quarantined it is possible that some of them (system files) won't work as it used to.

An unexperienced user can tell the difference what is being wrongly classified?
My best bet they fully trust that particular product to protect their computer because some testing websites or magazine reviews gives awesome rating or when some wannabe expert say so.

By the way what the hell you install a BETA product on your brother's computer for?


In the past Bitdefender, Norton among a few others are trigger happy but they improved.
This are what i called a mature products as many hours and $$ are spend in developtment.

Just because a product X has a excellent detection rating by lab test, doesn't means it is a good product and everyones should jumps into the wagon.

What i mean by good is::
Is it safe to use?
What is it's impact like on production computer?
How does its multi layered protection do?
How is is the product support like?
Etc...

Recently more more developers intergrates multi-layered engines to catch more malware so they can look good in test and compete against the big fives. The way i see, in a true real-world environment these high rating means nothing to me, you don't get to see most of these malware tested in real life anyway.

I rather watch a so called "dumb" youtube video tests rather than pondering over some independent tests results which we don't know about what's going on behind the scenes.

I used to drool with high detection ratings but over the years you'll soon grew out of it and becomes wiser when you see things in different perspective. It makes me smile how foolish i was. Used to be a fanboy of Comodo but no more.

Another thing being so popular does not always equal to quality.
400+ millions is not a suprisingly figure if its an Asian product.
It's free, its Asian's mindset - what's free is good to take.
No i'm not racist, i'm Asian.
Where i'm from, there is a specific Chinese word given to these kind of behavior and its called Kiasu.
It's really funny seeing they brawl over some Hello Kitty stuff toys.


PS:
darko999,
Don't say something that you particular never have experienced on.
Just because you sit behind a VM doesn't make you an overnight know how.
By the way it's rude mocking at other members opninion.


Gooday.

 

[darko999]

I'll judge you not understtand what been written?

"If anyone did skin patching (theming) remember that some unmature security products will find these files as tainted and may removed them causing serious damage to your computer."

There are many varieties of theming programs around some are infact malware infected some are not, some are free and some are commercial ones.
In this particular machine of my client he installed a premium theming program which is quite popular among PC enthusiasts and gamers.
Since this is a paid product i can't recreate step by step images at your disposable.
Before skinning these files needs to be patch first: themeservice.dll, themeui.dll and uxtheme.dll.
When the actual theming process has taken place more critical system files are patched.

Critical system files include files with .dll, .exe, .ocx, and .sys file extensions. Some of these files are True Type fonts.
In addition, system state files, such as the systems registry, are required for the operating system to run properly.

Not many security product can distinguished between an actual infection from a purposedly patched ones.
Microsoft Removal Tool for instance will restore these files (themeservice.dll, themeui.dll and uxtheme.dll) automatically leaving the desktop partially skinned.

As i remember Avira recently has an option enabled by default to ignore these kinds of files but i can't remember what it's called.
Comodo too will detect these patched files as unknown or tampered but it does not recommend to removed them unlike Qihoo do.
When Qihoo detects a possible infection it will shown a list of detected files which has as a check box option so you can select what files to ignore (whitelisted).
What's more it recommended repair as option but the truth is Qihoo don't do repair it remove/delete and quarantined them.
(Given by example of Microsoft Removal Tool it does repairing job).
Even if you undo them from from quarantined it is possible that some of them (system files) won't work as it used to.

An unexperienced user can tell the difference what is being wrongly classified?
My best bet they fully trust that particular product to protect their computer because some testing websites or magazine reviews gives awesome rating or when some wannabe expert say so.

By the way what the hell you install a BETA product on your brother's computer for?


In the past Bitdefender, Norton among a few others are trigger happy but they improved.
This are what i called a mature products as many hours and $$ are spend in developtment.

Just because a product X has a excellent detection rating by lab test, doesn't means it is a good product and everyones should jumps into the wagon.

What i mean by good is::
Is it safe to use?
What is it's impact like on production computer?
How does its multi layered protection do?
How is is the product support like?
Etc...

Recently more more developers intergrates multi-layered engines to catch more malware so they can look good in test and compete against the big fives. The way i see, in a true real-world environment these high rating means nothing to me, you don't get to see most of these malware tested in real life anyway.

I rather watch a so called "dumb" youtube video tests rather than pondering over some independent tests results which we don't know about what's going on behind the scenes.

I used to drool with high detection ratings but over the years you'll soon grew out of it and becomes wiser when you see things in different perspective. It makes me smile how foolish i was. Used to be a fanboy of Comodo but no more.

Another thing being so popular does not always equal to quality.
400+ millions is not a suprisingly figure if its an Asian product.
It's free, its Asian's mindset - what's free is good to take.
No i'm not racist, i'm Asian.
Where i'm from, there is a specific Chinese word given to these kind of behavior and its called Kiasu.
It's really funny seeing they brawl over some Hello Kitty stuff toys.


PS:
darko999,
Don't say something that you particular never have experienced on.
Just because you sit behind a VM doesn't make you an overnight know how.
By the way it's rude mocking at other members opninion.


Gooday.

Patching system files with third party patchers isn't supported by Microsoft Corporation. Then, it is actually legit for an AV solution to detect this patched files as unknown / unsafe, since is the same Microsoft will tell ya.
I just hate people who talks a lot about how bad Quihoo is, and reading so much sh1t coming from you makes anyone mad. Quihoo is one of the top free AV soulutions outhere you want it or not. If you were a novice with no brain to know how to exclude / grant permision, to the patched files for your cute theme, then use a more novice friendly AV. Because I can patch whatever I want on my windows and yet have 0 issues with Quihoo.

Mod Edit: Do not use foul language.

 

[jamescv7]

If the problem is came from patch files, keygen and more so called grayware then they are normally detected due to behavior related on accessing critical window files or registry that match to a malicious code. Therefore this case must be aware by a user and needs to supervise.

 

[bitbizket]

Patching system files with third party patchers isn't supported by Microsoft Corporation. Then, it is actually legit for an AV solution to detect this patched files as unknown / unsafe, since is the same Microsoft will tell ya.
I just hate people who talks a lot about how bad Quihoo is, and reading so much sh1t coming from you makes anyone mad. Quihoo is one of the top free AV soulutions outhere you want it or not. If you were a novice with no brain to know how to exclude / grant permision, to the patched files for your cute theme, then use a more novice friendly AV. Because I can patch whatever I want on my windows and yet have 0 issues with Quihoo.

What i really want to state here is to inform and advice the end-user who has litlltle or no experience with security product that certain products can cause harm or create issues to their computer if not used properly. My advised is to choose wisely which security product that better suited their computer environment. This is a fact you can't deny that. I've never stated the more experienced user to keep away from using Qihoo.

If what you think i say is ##### than Microsoft Security Essential would have done the same what Qihoo did, wherelse other matured products learns from their mistakes in the past has adapt and improved in usability.

Another part regarding Qihoo TS is the cleanup feature, there is a side effects of system cache cleaning however it can be used on certain circumstance or a certain given period but not on regular basis like Qihoo TS was configured. Qihoo has good protection qualities but with some side affects. That is all i have to say and let our forum members decide. Peace.