Is MSE really that Bad??

[Secondmineboy]

Microsoft will also not work on MSE/Defender in Windows 10, but Windows Defender will be automatically enabled if your Antivirus (Preinstalled or installed afterwards) is expired
for 3 or more days.

Also there will be system lockdown which will basically only allow files which are trusted by Microsoft or your company to run or open.

 

[donetao]

Good morning! Just up for a moment and a question for all you malware testers. Are any of you testing your choice of AV to see if it blocks this Google Chrome epidemic that seems to be keeping our malware fighters quite busy these days. I'm wondering if MBAM Anti-Exploite might be helping prevent this Chrome infection from infecting my PC. When reading the threads in our malware section, members are saying they don't even have Chrome installed ,but it's showing up in task manager . What's that all about. Others are being told to uninstall Chrome. I'm not very smart about all of this, but is anyone trying to fix this Chrome thing or is that up to Google. Oh well I have never been a Chrome fan and I'm back to bed for awhile.
I have a lot of questions. That's the way I learn and pass it on!
PS I'm wondering what kind of security all these members have that are in our malware section getting TwinHeadedEagal and Argus to clean up their infected PC's. They must be using MSE and MBAM Pro.

 

[Cch123]

Quoting the words of Holly Stewart, a senior program manager at Microsoft Malware Protection Centre, MSE follows a "baseline strategy". What this means is that MSE is there to provide all users some antivirus protection, but it is not going to be the best. She claims that this is because Microsoft shares all that it knows about malware samples etc. with other antivirus companies, so they would naturally do better than Microsoft in test.

So does these statements mean we should all ditch MSE because it is not designed to be good? I don't think so. Baseline does not mean bad. If you follow all the security best practices, I think it is totally fine to stick to MSE. It has almost no FP and is one of the lightest AVs. In fact, those that claim Microsoft does not have advanced anti malware tech like reputation engine etc. is wrong because on windows 8, smartscreen is the rep engine from Microsoft. No point implementing the feature in MSE again.

 

[illumination]

Hi! The only way I can learn is by asking questions. I have only been a MT member since Sept. 2014
I think I have contributed a little to the forum. I want to learn more. I watch our Malware section and try hard to learn from the threads posted there.
Here's my question. I see all these virus tests being done by all these security programs. Which programs detected and which programs didn't detect. I have not seen where anyone tested with MSE to see if it would detect the malware.Why is that?? Am I missing some thing or is MSE a piece of crap. I run MSE and MBAM Pro and I can't remember ever getting infected, Could someone use these programs when testing for new malware. Sorry if my thread is confusing. I don't want to test my security for new malware, but I would like to see it tested if that is possible.
Thank you

I have run this very same configuration for long periods of time. I did how ever make exclusions for each one in each other. I also hardened my browser a little at the time "Firefox with Noscript". While running this combo for that period, i was not infected. I would scan in between times with Hitman Pro to make sure.. Running a test with this combo would be inconclusive, as the chances of finding a tester with the same exact set up and uses of your system would be quite rare, not to mention the chances of you landing in that mass amount of malware all at one time

The backing up of your system is your greatest defense, your failsafe. I run Linux on my machine and even back it up with a program called Timeshift that allows me to create snapshots on the fly, so if anything happens, i will will just revert to one created earlier..

I would say with your config, and your habit of backing up, you are fine.. No need to bog your system down with so much armor that it can not move

 

[nissimezra]

Good morning! Just up for a moment and a question for all you malware testers. Are any of you testing your choice of AV to see if it blocks this Google Chrome epidemic that seems to be keeping our malware fighters quite busy these days. I'm wondering if MBAM Anti-Exploite might be helping prevent this Chrome infection from infecting my PC. When reading the threads in our malware section, members are saying they don't even have Chrome installed ,but it's showing up in task manager . What's that all about. Others are being told to uninstall Chrome. I'm not very smart about all of this, but is anyone trying to fix this Chrome thing or is that up to Google. Oh well I have never been a Chrome fan and I'm back to bed for awhile.
I have a lot of questions. That's the way I learn and pass it on!
PS I'm wondering what kind of security all these members have that are in our malware section getting TwinHeadedEagal and Argus to clean up their infected PC's. They must be using MSE and MBAM Pro.

MSE can do very good job with cleaning it clean the host file where many AV won't

 

[Ink]

Malwarebytes Anti-Malware detected a non-malware threat, aka PUP. Should I switch from Windows Defender? Am I infected?

Of course not, don't over-react just because WD/MSE is the baseline score for most AV testing sites, doesn't mean it's a bad Antivirus.

 

[dragonmew]

Thanks @nissimezra for your reply. I'm hoping that MBAM Anti-Exploit will make up the difference.

shame that MBAE sucks unless u get premium and MSE is ok but you need a scanner like ESETs online scanner so theres no point just go for a better one like avast or comodo even