Advice Request Please critique my RTX4090 setup

[HarborFront]

On paper first. Good and bad just shoot. I can accept that.

Budget : Up to US$7300. Balanced will use for buying cables and 40TB TB external HDDs storage (2x 20TB)

Case :
1) Hyte Y60 or
2) Lian Li Dynamic O11D Evo

CPU: INTEL 13th Gen i9-13900K (Raptor Lake)

GPU : MSI RTX 4090 Suprim Liquid X 24G (liquid cooled)

Mo :
1) MSI MEG Z790 Godlike (E-ATX Mo) or
2) ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z790 Extreme (E-ATX Mo)

RAM : 2x16GB DDR5 G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB
7800 CL38/7600 CL36/7400 CL36/7200 CL34
Compatible with 13th Gen i9-13900K, Intel Z790 chipset and supporting Intel XMP 3.0

SSD : 2x2TB SAMSUNG 990 Pro NVMe M.2 (PCIe 4.0). If PCIe 5.0 SSDs are available (its around the corner) I'll go for it.

PSU : MSI MEG Ai1300P PCIE5 with ATX 3.0 (Platinum)

PSU Cable Sleeved Extension Kit : ANTEC (white color)

CPU AIO 360mm
1) NZXT Kraken Z73 (white color) or
2) CORSAIR iCUE H150i Elite Capellix (white color) or
3) EK-Nucleus AIO CR360 Lux D-RGB

Fans : Lian Li SL 120/140 V2 RGB 2x140 + 1x120 (white color). Maybe use the case stock fans.........

Anybody can give a breakdown of the costs estimate? Got US$7300?

Thanks

Additional Info for 8K connection (MSI Mo)

GPU has DP1.4a and HDMI 2.1 which support 8K@60Hz. So no issue can connect to 8K TV via HDMI or monitor having DP1.4a/2.1

If monitor has TB4 port only then can connect from GPU DP1.4a to mini DP on Mo's rear panel and passthrough out its TB4 port. Then connect to monitor's TB4 port

So more options for 8K connection.

 

[Zero Knowledge]

Budget : Up to US7300. Balanced will use for buying cables and 40TB TB external HDD storage

$7300? Are you sure you want to spend that much on a PC?

You could go for a month long 5-star holiday in Thailand and sit on a beech drinking mojitos for that amount of money.

In the end it's your money so do what makes you happy.

CPU: INTEL 13th Gen i9-13900K (Raptor Lake)

Consider AMD. AMD Ryzen 9 7950X is a beast so check out the reviews about it.

Also consider the AMD Ryzen 5800X3D because it is still great for gaming (comes close to current 13th gen Intel's even though it's last gen) and will cut cost of DDR/MB if you want to save some money due to being last generation.

Or wait for the 7800X3D if released early next year if it ever comes.

GPU : MSI RTX 4090 Suprim Liquid X 24G (liquid cooled)

Nice card. MSI make good quality gear. Wait until AMD releases next gen GPU's since you might see a small price drop on NVidia.

SSD : 2x2TB SAMSUNG 980 Pro NVMe M.2 (PCIe 4.0)

If you can wait for the Samsung 990 Pro to be released and buy that.

CPU AIO 360mm
1) NZXT Kraken Z73 (white color) or
2) CORSAIR iCUE H150i Elite Capellix (white color)

I prefer Corsair gear and have had a good experience with their earlier released liquid coolers, but the NZXT is good too. Can't go wrong with either.

Mo :
1) MSI MEG Z790 Godlike (E-ATX Mo) or
2) ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z790 (E-ATX Mo)

Both are quality boards. I like MSI gear better than ASUS. Both good options.

Fans : Lian Li SL 120/140 V2 RGB 2x140 + 1x120 (white color). Maybe use the case stock fans.........

Consider Gentle Typhoon fans. They are still good value for money and work wonders.

 

[HarborFront]

$7300? Are you sure you want to spend that much on a PC?

You could go for a month long 5-star holiday in Thailand and sit on a beech drinking mojitos for that amount of money.

In the end it's your money so do what makes you happy.



Consider AMD. AMD Ryzen 9 7950X is a beast so check out the reviews about it.

Also consider the AMD Ryzen 5800X3D because it is still great for gaming (comes close to current 13th gen Intel's even though it's last gen) and will cut cost of DDR/MB if you want to save some money due to being last generation.

Or wait for the 7800X3D if released early next year if it ever comes.




Nice card. MSI make good quality gear. Wait until AMD releases next gen GPU's since you might see a small price drop on NVidia.




If you can wait for the Samsung 990 Pro to be released and buy that.


I prefer Corsair gear and have had a good experience with their earlier released liquid coolers, but the NZXT is good too. Can't go wrong with either.



Both are quality boards. I like MSI gear better than ASUS. Both good options.




Consider Gentle Typhoon fans. They are still good value for money and work wonders.

Actually, I can wait for AMD 7900xtx and start another setup before deciding

And the SAMSUNG 990 Pro is a good point. Updating my start post now. FI, PCIe 5.0 SSDs are just around the corner

No matter what AMD's performance is still subpar to NVIDIA this year...............and the INTEL 13th Gen i9-13900K (Raptor Lake) is a real beast

 

[CyberTech]

off-topic: You are the one of richest in this forum i've ever seen.

 

[HarborFront]

off-topic: You are the one of richest in this forum i've ever seen.

I'm setting up a 8K@50fps system. Already owned

1) 8K SAMSUNG TV...............already spent about US$7300
2) CANON R5C 8K camera....................already spent about US$11.7K

Now only lacking a premium PC for 8K gaming on 8K TV and converting 8K@50fps camera video to TV playable format. Also, need to store 8K@50fps videos externally using 40TB HDD(s)

3) For PC..................expect to spend about US$8745

 

[marcopaone]

On paper first. Good and bad just shoot. I can accept that.

Budget : Up to US$7300. Balanced will use for buying cables and 40TB TB external HDD storage

Case : Hyte Y60

CPU: INTEL 13th Gen i9-13900K (Raptor Lake)

GPU : MSI RTX 4090 Suprim Liquid X 24G (liquid cooled)

Mo :
1) MSI MEG Z790 Godlike (E-ATX Mo) or
2) ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z790 (E-ATX Mo)

RAM : 2x16GB DDR5 G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB
7800 CL38/7600 CL36/7400 CL36/7200 CL34
Compatible with 13th Gen i9-13900K, Intel Z790 chipset and supporting Intel XMP 3.0

SSD : 2x2TB SAMSUNG 990 Pro NVMe M.2 (PCIe 4.0). If PCIe 5.0 SSDs are available (around the corner) I'll go for it.

PSU : MSI MEG Ai1300P PCIE5 with ATX 3.0 (Platinum)

PSU Cable Sleeved Extension Kit : ANTEC (white color)

CPU AIO 360mm
1) NZXT Kraken Z73 (white color) or
2) CORSAIR iCUE H150i Elite Capellix (white color)

Fans : Lian Li SL 120/140 V2 RGB 2x140 + 1x120 (white color). Maybe use the case stock fans.........

Anybody can give a breakdown of the costs estimate? Got US$7300?

Thanks

Additional Info for 8K connection

GPU has DP1.4a and HDMI 2.1 which support 8K@60Hz. So no issue can connect to 8K TV via HDMI or monitor having DP1.4a/2.1

If monitor has TB4 port only then can connect from GPU DP1.4a to mini DP on Mo's rear panel and passthrough out its TB4 port. Then connect to monitor's TB4 port

So more options for 8K connection.

ASUS as Motherboard.
Tip: Consider Consider Arctic brand for CPU cooler.

 

[HarborFront]

ASUS as Motherboard.
Tip: Consider Consider Arctic brand for CPU cooler.

Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360. Radiator thickness is 38mm​

Liquid Freezer II 360 | Multi-Compatible AiO CPU Water Cooler | ARCTIC

The powerful and multi-compatible AiO CPU water cooling system Liquid Freezer II 360 has been perfectly tailored to suit the needs of gamers and other demanding users.

www.arctic.de

Hyte Y60 case requirement for top radiator is 30mm thick maximum so the Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360 cannot be used

 

[eonline]

the ryzen 7 5800x3d is above all, I recommend it. By the way, what are you going to use that pc for? It's a lot for almost everything and incredible money spender, but well if you have the money and want to spend it go ahead no problem.

 

[HarborFront]

the ryzen 7 5800x3d is above all, I recommend it. By the way, what are you going to use that pc for? It's a lot for almost everything and incredible money spender, but well if you have the money and want to spend it go ahead no problem.

The Ryzen 7 5800x3d is not unlocked for overclocking unlike the Intel 13th Gen i9-13900K (Raptor Lake). The 'K' allows for overclocking and has integrated graphics support

Review here

AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D Review

AMD's premium-priced Ryzen 7 5800X3D is a solid eight-core performer, but its boosts to game pep and CPU-specific performance can't quite offset the cost bump.

www.pcmag.com

A premium PC for 8K gaming on 8K TV and converting 8K@50fps camera video to TV playable format.

 

[eonline]

I, as a pc assembly and repair technician from an underdeveloped country, would assemble this pc if I had the money.

Spoiler: pcpartpicker

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor ($349.99 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($99.95 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero ATX AM4 Motherboard ($459.99 @ Adorama)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 128 GB (4 x 32 GB) DDR4-4000 CL18 Memory ($519.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($282.78 @ MemoryC)
Storage: Seagate IronWolf Pro 20 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive ($339.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus ROG STRIX GAMING OC GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card ($1999.99 @ ASUS)
Case: Lian Li O11D XL-X ATX Full Tower Case ($299.95 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair AX1600i 1600 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($609.99 @ Corsair)
Total: $4962.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-11-30 09:57 EST-0500

And if you like intel better I would put this together.

Spoiler: pcpartpicker

CPU: Intel Core i9-13900KF 3 GHz 24-Core Processor ($574.00 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Frost Commander 140 BLACK 95.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($76.89 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus ROG MAXIMUS Z790 EXTREME EATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($1117.77 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-7600 CL36 Memory ($419.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-7600 CL36 Memory ($419.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($282.78 @ MemoryC)
Storage: Seagate IronWolf Pro 20 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive ($339.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus ROG STRIX GAMING OC GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card ($1999.99 @ ASUS)
Case: Corsair Obsidian Series 1000D ATX Full Tower Case ($524.99 @ Corsair)
Power Supply: Corsair AX1600i 1600 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($609.99 @ Corsair)
Total: $6366.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-11-30 10:18 EST-0500

 

[HarborFront]

And if you like intel better I would put this together.

Spoiler: pcpartpicker

CPU: Intel Core i9-13900KF 3 GHz 24-Core Processor ($574.00 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Frost Commander 140 BLACK 95.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($76.89 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus ROG MAXIMUS Z790 EXTREME EATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($1117.77 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-7600 CL36 Memory ($419.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-7600 CL36 Memory ($419.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($282.78 @ MemoryC)
Storage: Seagate IronWolf Pro 20 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive ($339.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus ROG STRIX GAMING OC GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card ($1999.99 @ ASUS)
Case: Corsair Obsidian Series 1000D ATX Full Tower Case ($524.99 @ Corsair)
Power Supply: Corsair AX1600i 1600 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($609.99 @ Corsair)
Total: $6366.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-11-30 10:18 EST-0500

CPU Cooler: The ]Thermalright Frost Commander CPU Cooler is fan-cooled. You sure air cooling a hot Intel i9-13900KF CPU is adequate? I prefer water-cooled CPU AIO
Mo: Feature-wise the MSI MEG Z790 Godlike looks better than the ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z790 Extreme. Not sure of the MSI price though
Memory: As for memory if can get the G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB (2x16GB) DDR5-7800 CL38 would be the best otherwise will get its DDR5-7600 CL36
SSD: For storage PCIE 5.0 SSDs are just at the corner. 2x2TB SSDs is what I'm aiming at. I believe they would be available when AMD release its GPUs next month
HDD: External storage would take 40TB thunderbolt HDD. I prefer to put the HDD outside to be cooled by the room's aircon since the temperature inside the casing is warm. Don't want to add extra heat.
GPU: Will stick to the water-cooled MSI RTX 4090 Suprim Liquid X 24G
PSU: Will stick to the MSI MEG Ai1300P PCIE5 with ATX 3.0. Corsair AX1600i can also be considered just that it's not the latest PCIE5.0 and ATX 3.0
Case : I don't need a full tower case. A mid-tower case will do. Another similar capacity/dimensions and slightly expensive mid-tower case is the Lian Li Dynamic O11D Evo which gives more flexibility and cooler than the Hyte Y60. I'll consider this case too

You have to understand that an Intel 19-13900K setup with the RTX4090 generate a lot of heat. Best is to use custom water cooling, but I'm not into it. So, the next best alternative is to liquid-cooled the CPU and GPU

I'm not sure of local pricing. Shipping from overseas is rather not preferred

 

[eonline]

I prefer water-cooled CPU AIO

water-cooled, closed ones are good for the first few years, then they no longer work as they should. On the other hand, air cooled heatsinks are always stable.

By the way, could you leave the link to the store where you want to make the purchase?

MSI MEG Ai1300P PCIE5 with ATX 3.0.

I was not aware that 3.0 fonts were already available for sale. Thank you very much!

MEG Ai1300P PCIE5 | Power Supply | Overflow With Power

The MEG Ai1300P PCIE5 power supply is software supported and designed to ready for NVIDIA® GeForce RTX® 40 Series graphics cards thanks to its ATX 3.0 and PCIe 5.0.

www.msi.com

 

[TedCruz]

On paper first. Good and bad just shoot. I can accept that.

Budget : Up to US$7300. Balanced will use for buying cables and 40TB TB external HDD storage

Case :
1) Hyte Y60 or
2) Lian Li Dynamic O11D Evo

CPU: INTEL 13th Gen i9-13900K (Raptor Lake)

GPU : MSI RTX 4090 Suprim Liquid X 24G (liquid cooled)

Mo :
1) MSI MEG Z790 Godlike (E-ATX Mo) or
2) ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z790 Extreme (E-ATX Mo)

RAM : 2x16GB DDR5 G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB
7800 CL38/7600 CL36/7400 CL36/7200 CL34
Compatible with 13th Gen i9-13900K, Intel Z790 chipset and supporting Intel XMP 3.0

SSD : 2x2TB SAMSUNG 990 Pro NVMe M.2 (PCIe 4.0). If PCIe 5.0 SSDs are available (around the corner) I'll go for it.

PSU : MSI MEG Ai1300P PCIE5 with ATX 3.0 (Platinum)

PSU Cable Sleeved Extension Kit : ANTEC (white color)

CPU AIO 360mm
1) NZXT Kraken Z73 (white color) or
2) CORSAIR iCUE H150i Elite Capellix (white color) or
3) EK-Nucleus AIO CR360 Lux D-RGB

Fans : Lian Li SL 120/140 V2 RGB 2x140 + 1x120 (white color). Maybe use the case stock fans.........

Anybody can give a breakdown of the costs estimate? Got US$7300?

Thanks

Additional Info for 8K connection (MSI Mo)

GPU has DP1.4a and HDMI 2.1 which support 8K@60Hz. So no issue can connect to 8K TV via HDMI or monitor having DP1.4a/2.1

If monitor has TB4 port only then can connect from GPU DP1.4a to mini DP on Mo's rear panel and passthrough out its TB4 port. Then connect to monitor's TB4 port

So more options for 8K connection.

For $7300 you should upgrade to liquid metal cooler and call your coolant loop the Ohio - Class PC.

 

[BoraMurdar]

I am little old-fashioned, and don't support water cooling at all. Air is my preferable choice if a right case and fans are selected. Go with above mentioned MSI MEG PSU if you can, they are made by CWT so it must be superb.

My recommendation would be:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X 4.5 GHz 16-Core Processor ($569.99 @ Adorama)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12A chromax.black 60.09 CFM CPU Cooler ($119.95 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI MEG X670E GODLIKE EATX AM5 Motherboard ($1229.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory ($529.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($494.99 @ Western Digital)
Storage: Western Digital Red Pro 22 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive ($549.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI SUPRIM X GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card ($2709.99 @ Amazon)
Case: MSI MEG PROSPECT 700R ATX Mid Tower Case ($399.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic PRIME PX 1600 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($600.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $7204.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-11-30 14:30 EST-0500

 

[upnorth]

MSI, I fully agree on that one.

The rest specific for 8K is a bit pre-mature. Not because of the resolution itself as one can easy argue futureproof, but there's too much information on it's Cons right now and even with no restrictions on the pricetag it's not something I personal would do.

What 8K Content Is Actually Available?

8K TVs are here. But what about 8K content?

www.howtogeek.com

 

[HarborFront]

MSI, I fully agree on that one.

The rest specific for 8K is a bit pre-mature. Not because of the resolution itself as one can easy argue futureproof, but there's too much information on it's Cons right now and even with no restrictions on the pricetag it's not something I personal would do.

What 8K Content Is Actually Available?

8K TVs are here. But what about 8K content?

www.howtogeek.com

Yes, I watched that video by Linus Tech Tips.

There's no 8K movie content for now and the next couple of years. But TVs, PCs, monitors, cameras and smartphones are already available in 8K

Also, 8K documentaries are available and these you need paid subscription. Alternatively, create your own 8K content using cameras like the CANON R5C and NIKON Z9.................I mean 8K@50/60fps. For 8K@24/30fps many cameras and smartphones can do that.

I do hope Linus 8K TV can be put to better use than just gaming.

 

[HarborFront]

water-cooled, closed ones are good for the first few years, then they no longer work as they should. On the other hand, air cooled heatsinks are always stable.

By the way, could you leave the link to the store where you want to make the purchase?


I was not aware that 3.0 fonts were already available for sale. Thank you very much!

MEG Ai1300P PCIE5 | Power Supply | Overflow With Power

The MEG Ai1300P PCIE5 power supply is software supported and designed to ready for NVIDIA® GeForce RTX® 40 Series graphics cards thanks to its ATX 3.0 and PCIe 5.0.

www.msi.com

I have not decided yet where to buy the parts from. I visited some shops last weekend and certain parts were out of stock. And I need to get quotations before buying

Many brands of ATX3.0 PSU are available on sale................provided they are not out of stock

 

[Ink]

There's no 8K movie content for now and the next couple of years. But TVs, PCs, monitors, cameras and smartphones are already available in 8K

Availability =/= Encouraged. Anything relating to 8K content is pointless right now, and for the next probable 5+ years.

Whether to spend $10K now, or in 5 years when it's be valued at $4K or less is entirely your choice.

Remember the boom in increased MP count for digital cameras? The increase of shops selling e-cigs/vapes?

 

[HarborFront]

Availability =/= Encouraged. Anything relating to 8K content is pointless right now, and for the next probable 5+ years.

Whether to spend $10K now, or in 5 years when it's be valued at $4K or less is entirely your choice.

Remember the boom in increased MP count for digital cameras? The increase of shops selling e-cigs/vapes?

You can create your own content using current smartphones which support 8K@30fps recording and cameras like the Canon EOS R5C and Nikon Z9 which support 8K@60fps video recordings. Other cameras like the Canon EOS R5, Fuji X-H2, Sony A1, Atomos Ninja V+ etc also support 8K video recordings

 

[plat]

The storage drive Samsung 990 Pro is having problems, mainly marked loss of health after a short time and with much fewer reads/writes. Can consider the 980 Pro which also debuted with issues but has been stable for past 2+ years.

The timing isn't great but if one wants to wait 6-7 month until Samsung get it right, that may have to be it. My experience with firmware flashes via the Magician UI has not been favorable.

Tech News - Samsung 990 Pro SSDs Report Rapid Health Degradation

This is just another example of: brand new tech and growing pains. I would wait or delay 8K until it's more established. But I'm conservative that way.