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Question on the Security of a Standard Account on Windows 10
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<blockquote data-quote="ChoiceVoice" data-source="post: 883659" data-attributes="member: 28876"><p>my kids don't have the admin password. but if Minecraft is installed on both accounts (b/c that's what it does when you install it) - and later, when you add mods in the limited account (no password needed for this), and one is malicious, it seems that the security of the windows account separation isn't only contingent on windows inbuild defensiveness and separation, but is also contingent on Minecraft itself. essentially, a program can be exploited to compromise another account (?). honestly, there are likely a hundred ways a hacker might figure out how to do this. i just find it troublesome that we put so much faith in something that doesn't seem to be tested as thoroughly as antivirus effectiveness. </p><p></p><p>the gist of it seems to be that no labs or security companies have tested the effectiveness of the account separation (we simply trust microsoft's claims). so if a new banking trojan infects my kid's account, it may be able to infect my admin account or lift confidential info from it (without admin passwords, just by exploiting inherent windows flaws). i would like to see contests for hackers to attempt this, like they used to do to find browser weaknesses. </p><p></p><p>honestly, if we truly thought these separate accounts were bulletproof, our testers here wouldn't test malware samples in a virtual zone, but in a standard/limited account, and then just delete the account afterwards. so, if someone has a machine they want to wreck, i mean test this with, lol, they can remove all AV, form a standard account, and simply install all the malware samples. then after a couple of days, log into the admin account and start checking to see if it is compromised.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ChoiceVoice, post: 883659, member: 28876"] my kids don't have the admin password. but if Minecraft is installed on both accounts (b/c that's what it does when you install it) - and later, when you add mods in the limited account (no password needed for this), and one is malicious, it seems that the security of the windows account separation isn't only contingent on windows inbuild defensiveness and separation, but is also contingent on Minecraft itself. essentially, a program can be exploited to compromise another account (?). honestly, there are likely a hundred ways a hacker might figure out how to do this. i just find it troublesome that we put so much faith in something that doesn't seem to be tested as thoroughly as antivirus effectiveness. the gist of it seems to be that no labs or security companies have tested the effectiveness of the account separation (we simply trust microsoft's claims). so if a new banking trojan infects my kid's account, it may be able to infect my admin account or lift confidential info from it (without admin passwords, just by exploiting inherent windows flaws). i would like to see contests for hackers to attempt this, like they used to do to find browser weaknesses. honestly, if we truly thought these separate accounts were bulletproof, our testers here wouldn't test malware samples in a virtual zone, but in a standard/limited account, and then just delete the account afterwards. so, if someone has a machine they want to wreck, i mean test this with, lol, they can remove all AV, form a standard account, and simply install all the malware samples. then after a couple of days, log into the admin account and start checking to see if it is compromised. [/QUOTE]
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