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Fact Check

Microsoft Uses Its Own Security, Not Third-Party Antivirus


Contrary to this post, Microsoft does not use third-party antivirus software in its corporate and coding environments. Instead, the technology giant relies on its own comprehensive, in-house security suite, with Microsoft Defender at its core.

Evidence strongly indicates that Microsoft's internal cybersecurity strategy is centered around its own products, including "Microsoft Defender Antivirus" and the more advanced "Microsoft Defender for Endpoint". This approach, often called "dogfooding," involves using their own software to ensure its effectiveness and to showcase its capabilities to customers.

While Windows operating systems are designed to be compatible with third-party antivirus solutions, and will even disable Microsoft Defender when a different antivirus is installed, Microsoft's corporate policy is to utilize its integrated security ecosystem. This system extends beyond basic antivirus to include threat protection, identity management, and cloud security.

This post's assertion that Microsoft is using a third-party AV would be an admission of its own product's inferiority, and is a moot point, as there is no credible information to support the claim. In fact, public statements and documentation from Microsoft consistently highlight the robust capabilities of Microsoft Defender in enterprise settings.

The existence of a thriving third-party antivirus market is not an indictment of Microsoft Defender's quality. The cybersecurity landscape is diverse, and organizations may choose third-party solutions for various reasons, including legacy system compatibility, specific feature sets, or established vendor relationships. However, for its own extensive network, Microsoft trusts its own security solutions.


Sources

"Microsoft Support"

[Virus and Threat Protection in the Windows Security App]

(Virus and Threat Protection in the Windows Security App - Microsoft Support)

"Microsoft Security"

[Microsoft Defender for Business]

(Microsoft Defender for Business | Microsoft Security)

"Reddit"

[Why do companies prefer to add 3rd party products into Microsoft suites]

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"Microsoft Learn"

[Why you should use Microsoft Defender Antivirus together with Microsoft Defender for Endpoint]

(Why you should use Microsoft Defender Antivirus together with Microsoft Defender for Endpoint - Microsoft Defender for Endpoint)

"Avertium"

[Microsoft Security Solutions]

(Microsoft Security Services | Avertium)

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A failure in an update to an antivirus program caused a crash of Microsoft services, as reported in July 2024 due to an error in the interaction of the Crowdstrike security sensor with the Microsoft platform. The fix involved mitigation by the cybersecurity company and a reset of security updates to restore service.
According to this terrible mistake, Microsoft uses Crowdstrike, unless they changed it, which I highly doubt.
 
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A failure in an update to an antivirus program caused a crash of Microsoft services, as reported in July 2024 due to an error in the interaction of the Crowdstrike security sensor with the Microsoft platform. The fix involved mitigation by the cybersecurity company and a reset of security updates to restore service.
According to this terrible mistake, Microsoft uses Crowdstrike, unless they changed it, which I highly doubt.
If you search for Symantec endpoint protection on Reddit, you may find several reports of migrating from SEP to MD for endpoint for two reasons: better protection and less system impact.
MD for endpoint is among the top products for corporate sector, in addition to Elastic and CrowdStrike.
 
If you search for Symantec endpoint protection on Reddit, you may find several reports of migrating from SEP to MD for endpoint for two reasons: better protection and less system impact.
MD for endpoint is among the top products for corporate sector, in addition to Elastic and CrowdStrike.
I highly doubt that MD's protection is better than Symantec's, something doesn't add up. And although MD is wonderful, Microsoft continues to rely on a third-party AV, it makes no sense.
 
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If you search for Symantec endpoint protection on Reddit, you may find several reports of migrating from SEP to MD for endpoint for two reasons: better protection and less system impact.
MD for endpoint is among the top products for corporate sector, in addition to Elastic and CrowdStrike.
I'm not trying to derail your thread or questioning your post, but in general, how trustworthy is Reddit? I've found quite a few answers there to general "how do I, or what about this?" questions, but as far as hard facts, can they be trusted?
 
I'm not trying to derail your thread or questioning your post, but in general, how trustworthy is Reddit? I've found quite a few answers there to general "how do I, or what about this?" questions, but as far as hard facts, can they be trusted?
Not much, anyone can answer you. It is a social network, they are not usually "trustworthy".
 
I highly doubt that MD's protection is better than Symantec's, something doesn't add up. And although MD is wonderful, Microsoft continues to rely on a third-party AV, it makes no sense.
MS is using its own Defender, if you refuse to accept, thats your problem and not MWTips problem.
Do not try to convince other members that MS uses a third party AV because it is simply not true.

Trust me i know.
 
I highly doubt that MD's protection is better than Symantec's, something doesn't add up. And although MD is wonderful, Microsoft continues to rely on a third-party AV, it makes no sense.
Microsoft doesn't rely on third party security solutions. That's a misinterpretation of "crash of Microsoft services." Microsoft's own servers and infrastructure were unaffected, but enterprises reliant on Windows and Microsoft 365 lost access because of their additional use of Crowdstrike.

Microsoft's security is all in-house and includes the Microsoft Defender platform.
 
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Microsoft doesn't rely on third party security solutions. That's a misinterpretation of "crash of Microsoft services." Microsoft's own servers and infrastructure were unaffected, but enterprises reliant on Windows and Microsoft 365 were without access because of their additional use of Crowdstrike.

Microsoft's security is all in-house and includes the Microsoft Defender platform.
That's false. I just read and they use both products, depending on the protection layer, which seems strange to me. But it is true that they are trying to use Microsoft Defender more, but it is also true that they also rely on Crowdstrike, which catches my attention.
 
That's false. I just read and they use both products, depending on the protection layer, which seems strange to me. But it is true that they are trying to use Microsoft Defender more, but it is also true that they also rely on Crowdstrike, which catches my attention.
Old news, you know chatgpt is not fully accurate and up to date right ?
Dude i worked for a company that worked close with Microsoft, so stop your nonsense.
 
That's false. I just read and they use both products, depending on the protection layer, which seems strange to me. But it is true that they are trying to use Microsoft Defender more, but it is also true that they also rely on Crowdstrike, which catches my attention.
Corporate sector is not our top priority here, as most of us are home users.
Any recent stats regarding the market share of AVs (similar to those for browsers, for example)?
 
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A failure in an update to an antivirus program caused a crash of Microsoft services, as reported in July 2024 due to an error in the interaction of the Crowdstrike security sensor with the Microsoft platform. The fix involved mitigation by the cybersecurity company and a reset of security updates to restore service.
According to this terrible mistake, Microsoft uses Crowdstrike, unless they changed it, which I highly doubt.
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Note: This is an excerpt from the full analysis report.

Report ID: 20250930-1126-0451

Date: September 30, 2025

Subject: Microsoft's Internal Use of Microsoft Defender

Executive Summary


This report assesses whether Microsoft utilizes its own Microsoft Defender suite of security products for its internal corporate security. Analysis of Microsoft's official publications, security reports, and incident response case studies confirms that Microsoft does indeed use its own Defender products extensively to protect its vast digital estate. This practice, often referred to as "dogfooding," is a long-standing tradition at the company. The evidence indicates a comprehensive deployment of the Defender suite, from endpoint protection to threat intelligence, forming a critical component of their internal security strategy. Overall confidence in this assessment is High.

Key Findings (The What)


Microsoft's Security Operations Rely on Internal Telemetry: The annual Microsoft Digital Defense Report details the analysis of trillions of security signals daily across Microsoft's services. This vast data collection and analysis capability is indicative of the use of their own security tools, including the Defender suite, to monitor and protect their environment. (High Confidence)

Incident Response Leverages Defender for Endpoint: A published ransomware case study demonstrates that Microsoft's own Incident Response team utilized Microsoft Defender for Endpoint to track the attacker's movements, investigate the breach, and remediate the threat within a compromised environment. (High Confidence)

Executive Endorsement of Internal Security Tools:
Microsoft's Chief Information Security Officer (CISO), Bret Arsenault, has publicly highlighted the role of AI in their cyber defense strategy, a core feature of the Microsoft Defender suite.This points to the use and trust in their own security technology at the highest levels of the company's security leadership. (High Confidence)

"Dogfooding" as a Corporate Practice: The practice of "dogfooding," or using one's own products internally, is a well-documented cultural aspect of Microsoft's product development and deployment strategy.This strongly supports the assertion that their own security products would be the primary choice for their internal security needs. (High Confidence)

Primary Sources (Direct from Microsoft)
Microsoft Digital Defense Report 2024: This annual report details the trillions of security signals Microsoft analyzes daily. This data is foundational to their security posture and the intelligence that powers the Defender suite.


Microsoft Defender for Endpoint Demonstration Scenarios: While designed for customers, this documentation showcases the advanced capabilities that Microsoft's own security teams would leverage for threat hunting and response.


What is Microsoft Defender XDR?: This page outlines the integrated nature of the Defender suite, which is crucial for a large, complex organization like Microsoft to manage its own security effectively.


Secondary Sources and Context
RedMonk
- "Why Tech Companies Still Love Eating their Own Dogfood": This article provides context on the industry practice of "dogfooding" (using one's own products), a well-known cultural aspect of Microsoft.


Coding Horror - "The Ultimate Dogfooding Story": This blog post gives historical context to the term "dogfooding" and its origins at Microsoft.

 
Trend thought the latest Hasleo update was malware installed through the program though no issues when downloaded & installed.
Yes eventually, but when I first tried to update Hasleo from in the program there was no way Trend was going to let it happen, by the time on the second popup appeared to run file Hasleo had already given up as it was initially blocked & the entire program could then not even run to attempt a second update - It was a newish program update though but over a day old, but there should be a IMO 'I know this program is safe' option or similar. The thing I found interesting that none of these events showed in the 'Security threats summary' when they should have? I ended up doing a basic Hasleo uninstall & then installing from a setup file. Could cause issues for a new user & a bit of a rigmarole. Maybe this is why Trend is shown to have more Fp's than some.
 
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