SpyShelter Free

[silversurfer]

My advice would be never using "TDI Firewall Driver" by SpyShelter, I tried out recently on my system (Windows 10 ) and was running into issues, so looks like it's better to keep default "WFP Firewall Driver"

 

[HarborFront]

My advice would be never using "TDI Firewall Driver" by SpyShelter, I tried out recently on my system (Windows 10 ) and was running into issues, so looks like it's better to keep default "WFP Firewall Driver"

You know whether can disable the default WFW when using SFW or is SFW piggyback on WFW ie it is just a GUI front for WFW like Tinywall?

 

[silversurfer]

You know whether can disable the default WFW when using SFW or is SFW piggyback on WFW ie it is just a GUI front for WFW like Tinywall?

I don't really know, but I believe it's better to keep WFW enabled in order to avoid serious issues in your OS (Windows10). Spyshelter itself is mainly developed to work together with WFW, so probably there is a reason why WFW isn't automatically disabled by SpyShelter as we know from other 3rd-party Firewalls like Comodo...

Of course, to be sure at all, you may like to contact the support via e-mail on their homepage!

Or just waiting for @ichito he is an expert on this topic all about SpyShelter

 

[HarborFront]

I don't really know, but I believe it's better to keep WFW enabled in order to avoid serious issues in your OS (Windows10). Spyshelter itself is mainly developed to work together with WFW, so probably there is a reason why WFW isn't automatically disabled by SpyShelter as we know from other 3rd-party Firewalls like Comodo...

Of course, to be sure at all, you may like to contact the support via e-mail on their homepage!

Or just waiting for @ichito he is an expert on this topic all about SpyShelter

From what I know one can disable the Windows default firewall from the menu and Group Policy but its WFP CANNOT be disabled. I remember checking on this long time back but I kind of lost track now

Maybe someone can confirm this

 

[Lenny_Fox]

@HarborFront I agree with @silversurfer

The WFW is a service of svchost.exe, meaning it is part of the core of Windows10. In its default settings, it blocks inbound and allows outbound. How many times have you gotten a popup of WFW blocking inbound (a handful tops). So in its defaut setting it does not consume significant processing power, making the gain to disable it marginal - maybe even questionable

I like the fact that it is possible to set outbound blocks for LolBins with WFW. All these LolBins are Microsoft signed processes, so in any auto-allow setting of SpyShelter these processes would not be blocked. The combi WFW blocking M$ sponsors to go outbound and SpyShelter auto-allowing Microsoft and warning me for all other traffic, makes this a safe and easy to use combo.

So I dare to say there are benefits in keeping it enabled

 

[ichito]

Thanks @silversurfer
I'm only long-time user of SS and even perhaps not an expert. In my mashines SpyShelter is/was working without enabled system FW. Both those firewalls use the same drivers platform (WFP) but SS is by design more granular in options and features...so the choice is for me one. Of course we can argue about it and perhaps everyone could give different documented opinion but for me that all would be an artificial conflict.
If someone want to know some info abut "with or without" I can propose tose two quite old topics on Wilders

SpyShelter Firewall question...

I've read somewhere that the SpyShelter Firewall works in conjunction with the Windows Firewall. Are most of the SpyShelter Firewall users still keep...

www.wilderssecurity.com

Differences between WFC y SpyShelter FW

Leaving aside the hips part, what are the differences between WFC and the firewall of Spyshelter? do they both use windows firewall or Windows...

www.wilderssecurity.com

 

[HarborFront]

Just installed SS Free.

How to see SS blocking incoming connections? All I see are outgoings only. I have Windows default firewall disabled

Thanks

 

[silversurfer]

Just installed SS Free.

How to see SS blocking incoming connections? All I see are outgoings only. I have Windows default firewall disabled

Thanks

As far as I know, it's impossible to see incoming connections the same like the visible outgoing connections on the network part of settings by SpyShelter.

 

[HarborFront]

As far as I know, it's impossible to see incoming connections the same like the visible outgoing connections on the network part of settings by SpyShelter.

So does the paid Spyshelter Firewall allows one to see or I need to enable Windows default firewall so it'll notify if there's an incoming connection?

Or is it incoming connections are blocked by default in SS firewall (free and/or paid)?

Thanks

 

[Lenny_Fox]

@HarborFront

You can define network rules, making is straight forward (SS uses the zone concept), my guess is that undefined throws a popup (better read the manual )

Alternatively you could enable Windows FW for inbound control (WFW throws a popup when an unknown app receives inbound traffic)

 

[silversurfer]

So does the paid Spyshelter Firewall allows one to see or I need to enable Windows default firewall so it'll notify if there's an incoming connection?

Or is it incoming connections are blocked by default in SS firewall (free and/or paid)?

Thanks

Free or Paid version are the same on this point, incoming connections are invisible in settings!
You just can creating your own rules manually as said above by @Lenny_Fox

 

[HarborFront]

@HarborFront

You can define network rules, making is straight forward (SS uses the zone concept), my guess is that undefined throws a popup (better read the manual )

Alternatively you could enable Windows FW for inbound control (WFW throws a popup when an unknown app receives inbound traffic)

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Because SS firewall (free) can work with or without Windows default firewall just like I disabled Windows Defender AV now that I installed WiseVector StopX and KSC free

If inbound traffic will generate a notification by SS firewall (free) that will be great. Can someone confirm this?

I see no advantages in enabling both the Windows Firewall and Defender AV even though the installed software are compatible with them. FI, I kept Windows Exploit Protection enabled.

You have different opinions?

 

[ichito]

Rule #54 on list of monitored - incoming packets - is normaly alerted...see post #11 in this thread.
Or maybe I didn't understand what is the questuion...