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Today in Spain is typical to have breakfast with this "3 Wise Men From Orient" Cake with hot chocolate 
Probably very tasty cake, yummy! with hot chocolate mmm yummy...
The circular shape of your cake is similar with this - Christmas Wreath...
Remember The Real Meaning of Christmas! cropped sharpened pinterest.nz 685x685.jpg
- image from pinterest.nz ... maybe: 934 best Christmas & Holidays images on Pinterest | Christmas quotes
Christmas Wreaths
Wreaths have been used as a decorative sign of Christmas for hundreds and hundreds of years. Christmas wreaths can adorn any part of your home, inside or out. In many homes, this symbol of growth and everlasting life can be found both inside and out. It is common to find a number of wreaths on doors, over the mantle, or hung in windows.
The wreath is made of evergreens, most often pine branches or holly. They can be real or artificial. But, an artificial one just doesn't smell the same as a real wreath. It is decorated wit a variety of items including pine cones, holly berries, fruits, and just about anything you can imagine.
The wreath has significant meaning for the season. It's circular shape represents eternity, for it has no beginning and no end. From a christian religious perspective, it represents an unending circle of life. The evergreen, most frequently used in making wreathes, symbolizes growth and everlasting life. Holly branches have thorns. When used in a wreath it represents the thorn on Jesus' crown when he was crucified. Bright red holly berries symbolize Jesus' blood that was shed for us.
Today, it is sometimes hard to remember the real meaning of Christmas. We get all caught up in the hype of Santa and his arrival. The wreath over the hearth brings a warmth to our hearts as we stop to reflect upon the true meaning of this very special day.
This Quote is from: holidayinsights.com: Christmas Wreaths, Holiday Wreaths Meaning, Holiday Insights
The circular shape of your cake is similar with this - Christmas Wreath...
Remember The Real Meaning of Christmas! cropped sharpened pinterest.nz 685x685.jpg
- image from pinterest.nz ... maybe: 934 best Christmas & Holidays images on Pinterest | Christmas quotes
Christmas Wreaths
Wreaths have been used as a decorative sign of Christmas for hundreds and hundreds of years. Christmas wreaths can adorn any part of your home, inside or out. In many homes, this symbol of growth and everlasting life can be found both inside and out. It is common to find a number of wreaths on doors, over the mantle, or hung in windows.
The wreath is made of evergreens, most often pine branches or holly. They can be real or artificial. But, an artificial one just doesn't smell the same as a real wreath. It is decorated wit a variety of items including pine cones, holly berries, fruits, and just about anything you can imagine.
The wreath has significant meaning for the season. It's circular shape represents eternity, for it has no beginning and no end. From a christian religious perspective, it represents an unending circle of life. The evergreen, most frequently used in making wreathes, symbolizes growth and everlasting life. Holly branches have thorns. When used in a wreath it represents the thorn on Jesus' crown when he was crucified. Bright red holly berries symbolize Jesus' blood that was shed for us.
Today, it is sometimes hard to remember the real meaning of Christmas. We get all caught up in the hype of Santa and his arrival. The wreath over the hearth brings a warmth to our hearts as we stop to reflect upon the true meaning of this very special day.
This Quote is from: holidayinsights.com: Christmas Wreaths, Holiday Wreaths Meaning, Holiday Insights
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El Rostro de la Virgen.jpg
- The Face of the Virgin, Our Lady of Guadalupe
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Another image of Our Lady of Guadalupe you have in another topic "Shroud of Turin Latest News and pictures", page 2, post #28: Shroud of Turin Latest News and pictures - read too the next post, with translation of 'NICAN MOPOHUA' about, and portrait of the face...
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Here you have the Madonnina, Madonna Della Strada, Madonna of the Streets by Roberto Ferruzzi - one of my favorite images of Our Lady!
Madonnina Madonna Della Strada Madonna of the Streets by Roberto Ferruzzi 1 - wikipedia original.jpg
Madonnina (painting) - on Wikipedia: Madonnina (painting) - Wikipedia
Madonnina, Madonna Della Strada, Madonna of the Streets by Roberto Ferruzzi - crop 600x600.jpg - from ArtPrints & Decor
Madonna of the Streets gold frame scaled normalized - catholiccompany.com 700x893.jpg
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Here you have the Madonnina, Madonna Della Strada, Madonna of the Streets by Roberto Ferruzzi - one of my favorite images of Our Lady!
Madonnina Madonna Della Strada Madonna of the Streets by Roberto Ferruzzi 1 - wikipedia original.jpg
Madonnina (painting) - on Wikipedia: Madonnina (painting) - Wikipedia
Madonnina, Madonna Della Strada, Madonna of the Streets by Roberto Ferruzzi - crop 600x600.jpg - from ArtPrints & Decor
Madonna of the Streets gold frame scaled normalized - catholiccompany.com 700x893.jpg
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Virgen de las Callas, Virgen de la Calle, Madonnina, Matka Boska Cygańska, Madonna Della Strada, Madonna of the Streets, Our Lady of rest, La Zingarella - Roberto Ferruzzi
"Briciole: La Madonnina del Ferruzzi
...
The sweet face of a teenager looking upwards, with his body wrapped in a blue cape, his head covered with a scarf and a baby sleeping in his lap...
I think we all know this picture because the mother, grandmother or aunt, still have it or have a copy on the bed.
It is known as "Our Lady of rest", or "Our Lady of Ferruzzi".
But who was "Ferruzzi"? Who is the person portrayed? What is the story of the picture? And where is the original?
Let's tell a true story
In 1984, in California, Sister Angela Maria Bovo, who was orphaned at an early age, wanted to learn more about her parents, their country of origin and why they emigrated to Oakland in California.
He obtained permission from his superiors to make a trip to Italy to research his origins. In Venice he still found two elderly aunts alive, sisters of his mother: his 88-year-old Aunt Elisa and Aunt Giulia of 80.
Aunt Julia made her visit to the family home, the house in which her mother grew up. In one room there was a painting, the reproduction of the Madonna del Ferruzzi. This Madonna is your mother,"says Aunt Giulia. I know "the nun answered, expressing faith in Our Lady, Mother of all believers. But her aunt insisted and explained the true story of the painting.
In 1896 in Luvigliano, on the Euganean Hills Angelina Cian, the mother of Sister Angela maria Bovo was noticed by a painter, while,
Sister Angela Maria Bovo still eleven years old, he held his little brother in his arms. The artist was struck by the beauty and purity of the scene, and decided to make a portrait of it (an oil on canvas) entitled "La Zingarella".
With it the author won the second Venice Biennale in 1897, in which he participated with the intent of representing a "Maternity". Thanks to the extraordinary expressive gentleness, the painting had an enormous popular success, so much so that the second name of "Maternity" was changed, to the benefit of the people, into "Madonnina". The work was purchased for 30,000 lire, an astronomical figure for those times.
Fratelli Alinari, owners of the well-known house Fotografica, also purchased the painting. However, before reselling it, they reserved the right of reproduction of any kind.
The fame of the work exceeds that of the author. The image of the eleven-year-old girl with her little brother became the face of the "Madonna with Child", was reproduced and spread throughout the world, under various names:"Madonnina","Madonna del Riposo","Madonna delle Vie","Madonna della Tensizza","Madonnella" and "la Zingarella".
The painting was an oil on canvas made in 1896 by the painter Roberto Ferruzzi (1853-1934)." ...
- translated with DeepL translator, from Italian: Briciole: La Madonnina del Ferruzzi
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The True Story Behind ‘Madonnina : on franciscanmedia.org: The True Story Behind ‘Madonnina’ <----- link is good for now, inserted, sorry!
Some image versions:
El-Ave-Maria.jpg
Virgen de las Callas, Virgen de la Calle, Madonnina - pinterest.com 900x1254.jpg
“La Zingarella” Madonnina di Roberto Ferruzzi - pinterest.com 736x921.jpg
Virgin de la Calle - pinterest.com 736x1081.jpg
Matka Boska Cygańska - Madonnina - coated with textile fabrics - cropped 698x1064.jpg
- this image coated with textile fabrics is from Polish website: sutaszgochy-artsmak.blogspot.fr: Mama
"Briciole: La Madonnina del Ferruzzi
...
The sweet face of a teenager looking upwards, with his body wrapped in a blue cape, his head covered with a scarf and a baby sleeping in his lap...
I think we all know this picture because the mother, grandmother or aunt, still have it or have a copy on the bed.
It is known as "Our Lady of rest", or "Our Lady of Ferruzzi".
But who was "Ferruzzi"? Who is the person portrayed? What is the story of the picture? And where is the original?
Let's tell a true story
In 1984, in California, Sister Angela Maria Bovo, who was orphaned at an early age, wanted to learn more about her parents, their country of origin and why they emigrated to Oakland in California.
He obtained permission from his superiors to make a trip to Italy to research his origins. In Venice he still found two elderly aunts alive, sisters of his mother: his 88-year-old Aunt Elisa and Aunt Giulia of 80.
Aunt Julia made her visit to the family home, the house in which her mother grew up. In one room there was a painting, the reproduction of the Madonna del Ferruzzi. This Madonna is your mother,"says Aunt Giulia. I know "the nun answered, expressing faith in Our Lady, Mother of all believers. But her aunt insisted and explained the true story of the painting.
In 1896 in Luvigliano, on the Euganean Hills Angelina Cian, the mother of Sister Angela maria Bovo was noticed by a painter, while,
Sister Angela Maria Bovo still eleven years old, he held his little brother in his arms. The artist was struck by the beauty and purity of the scene, and decided to make a portrait of it (an oil on canvas) entitled "La Zingarella".
With it the author won the second Venice Biennale in 1897, in which he participated with the intent of representing a "Maternity". Thanks to the extraordinary expressive gentleness, the painting had an enormous popular success, so much so that the second name of "Maternity" was changed, to the benefit of the people, into "Madonnina". The work was purchased for 30,000 lire, an astronomical figure for those times.
Fratelli Alinari, owners of the well-known house Fotografica, also purchased the painting. However, before reselling it, they reserved the right of reproduction of any kind.
The fame of the work exceeds that of the author. The image of the eleven-year-old girl with her little brother became the face of the "Madonna with Child", was reproduced and spread throughout the world, under various names:"Madonnina","Madonna del Riposo","Madonna delle Vie","Madonna della Tensizza","Madonnella" and "la Zingarella".
The painting was an oil on canvas made in 1896 by the painter Roberto Ferruzzi (1853-1934)." ...
- translated with DeepL translator, from Italian: Briciole: La Madonnina del Ferruzzi
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The True Story Behind ‘Madonnina : on franciscanmedia.org: The True Story Behind ‘Madonnina’ <----- link is good for now, inserted, sorry!
Some image versions:
El-Ave-Maria.jpg
“La Zingarella” Madonnina di Roberto Ferruzzi - pinterest.com 736x921.jpg
Virgin de la Calle - pinterest.com 736x1081.jpg
Matka Boska Cygańska - Madonnina - coated with textile fabrics - cropped 698x1064.jpg
- this image coated with textile fabrics is from Polish website: sutaszgochy-artsmak.blogspot.fr: Mama
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The success of faith-friendly media
washingtontimes.com: The success of faith-friendly media
- from the Special Section Faith and Film 2 on washingtontimes.com: Special Section: Faith and Film II
Faith and Film II cover washingtontimes.com Bryan Hickox Pictures 700x393.jpg
Faith and Film II cover washingtontimes.com Bryan Hickox Pictures 700x393.jpg
By Dr. S. Bryan Hickox
The relationship between the “church” and the “media” has been a strange and storied one from the beginning — going from patronage to protest and back again.
At the birth of the cinema in the early 1900s and for several decades, faith-friendly and explicitly Christian stories from the Bible were the most popular. In addition to numerous biblical epics, over 100 films were made solely about the life of Jesus Christ. The most famous director of that era was Cecil B. DeMille, who happened to be an Episcopal lay minister. With the advent of the “talkie” in 1927 and well into the 1930s, the demand for Christian films flourished. Biblical epics like “King of Kings,” “The Robe,” “The Greatest Story Ever Told,” and “The Ten Commandments” were the “tent-pole” pictures of their day.
Then in the 1940s and 1950s, provocative subject matter was introduced. As soldiers returned from World War II, foreign films became available, and stories containing the seeds of secularism, explicit sex and scandals found their way into the local movie theaters.
From the early 1900s up through the 1950s — with the erosion of cinematic morality — the church responded by doing everything it could to stop production of unsavory films. The Hays Commission and later the Catholic Legion of Decency were established to enforce their severe criticism and to exercise censorship. The prevailing thought of the day was that films were the tools of the devil, and in many church denominations, even going to a film was considered a sin. A tragic byproduct of this thought process was that Christian young people were under extreme pressure not to enter media professions. As a result, a whole generation of young people had no opportunity to contribute creatively nor to reserve “a place at the table” in Hollywood.
From the 1950s to the 1970s, the church decided to imitate secular Hollywood. Beginning with Billy Graham’s World Wide Pictures, scores of producers and ministudios tried making “church movies.” Distribution companies like Gospel Films sprang up to distribute 16mm prints of these films directly into churches. This strategy had no influence on the secular media; it just provided mostly amateur-quality movies for hard-core believers.
From the mid-1970s to 2000, faith-filled believers got angry about what they considered the morally despicable messaging of films and television — especially the way people of faith were depicted. It was not uncommon to have people of faith denounce television programming as “a Hollywood-built sewer line” directly into their living rooms. Christian organizations mobilized angry boycotts, protest marches, letter campaigns, and sometimes “hate mail” against offending producers, studios, and networks.
Around the turn of the new century, something very interesting started happening.
In May of 2000, CBS aired a two-part miniseries titled “Jesus,” and the first installment garnered 24.1 million viewers, making it the season’s highest-rated miniseries. In Europe, it was one of the highest-rated miniseries of all time. “The Miracle Maker,” “Noah’s Ark,” “The Face: Jesus in Art,” and “Mary, Mother of Jesus” soon joined the “Jesus” miniseries as being some of the most popular programing on television. It seemed like faith-friendly fare was selling.
When surveyed in those years by Barna Research, 75 percent of Americans agreed there was “too much violence in film and on television.” Sixty-five percent said there was “too much sexual activity,” 57 percent said there was “too much adult language or profanity in film and on television,” and 43 percent said there were “too many nontraditional or secular values in films.”
Christian broadcast, satellite and cable TV networks sprang up to an enthusiastic and growing worldwide audience.
Meanwhile, in the music business, only two genres were experiencing consistent growth: Christian and country and western. Album sales fell almost 29 percent in two years, but Christian and gospel music rose 19 percent, marking 19 straight quarters of growth, Daily Variety said in April 2008. “Christian music,” noted CBS News, “was outselling classical, country and western, and new age combined.”
By 2007, “the market for religious products topped $8.6 billion in annual revenue,” D. Michael Lindsay wrote in “Faith in the Halls of Power: How Evangelicals Joined the American Elite.” The Association of American Publishers called religious books “the fastest-growing segment in publishing,” while in the nonfiction category, four of the top 20 best-sellers came from Christian publishers, Christian E-Tailing Newsletter said in April 2008.
Today, according to 2017 Pew Research Center statistics, 70.6 percent of America’s 327.4 million population are Christian by some definition. In other words, there is a cumulative audience for faith-friendly media of at least 231.8 million people, who have a combined, disposable annual income somewhere close to $2.1 trillion.
Tapping into that huge audience of Christian believers who were hungry for films that reinforced their beliefs, Mel Gibson directed “The Passion of the Christ,” which grossed $83,848,082 on its opening weekend in 2004 and went on to become the highest-grossing R-rated movie up until that time. It eventually grossed more than $611 million.
In 2005, Walden Media produced “The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe,” which grossed $745,013,158. In 2008, the next in the Narnia series, “Prince Caspian,” grossed $419,665,568, and in 2010, the third installment, “Voyage of the Dawn Treader,” grossed $415,686,950.
Since 2010, there have been hundreds of faith-friendly films produced, including high-grossing titles such as “Noah,” “Hacksaw Ridge,” “Heaven is for Real,” “The Shack,” “Miracles from Heaven,” “Son of God,” and “War Room.”
In preparation for this article, I spent the better part of last month analyzing the most current statistical data I could find, starting with the budgets of films containing positive, faith-friendly values and their return-on-investment figures, and comparing them with the budgets and ROI figures of films that contained negative or non-faith-friendly values. The results are that faith-friendly films yield a 7.8 times better return on investment than non-faith-friendly films.
The future seems extremely bright, with many faith-friendly films in the pipeline for release in early 2018: “Samson” (Feb. 16), “I Can Only Imagine” (March 16), “Paul, Apostle of Christ” (March 28), “God’s Not Dead 3” (March 30), and “Mary Magdalene” (also March 30), just to mention a few.
The Christian community has responded by increased moviegoing, and the movie industry has increased its offerings to satisfy this huge market — clearly, a win-win.
• S. Bryan Hickox, D.H.L., is President and CEO of Bryan Hickox Pictures, Inc. He is an executive producer and producer of more than 80 television movies and feature films; seven of his television films have won Emmy Awards.
washingtontimes.com: The success of faith-friendly media
- from the Special Section Faith and Film 2 on washingtontimes.com: Special Section: Faith and Film II
Faith and Film II cover washingtontimes.com Bryan Hickox Pictures 700x393.jpg
Faith and Film II cover washingtontimes.com Bryan Hickox Pictures 700x393.jpg
By Dr. S. Bryan Hickox
The relationship between the “church” and the “media” has been a strange and storied one from the beginning — going from patronage to protest and back again.
At the birth of the cinema in the early 1900s and for several decades, faith-friendly and explicitly Christian stories from the Bible were the most popular. In addition to numerous biblical epics, over 100 films were made solely about the life of Jesus Christ. The most famous director of that era was Cecil B. DeMille, who happened to be an Episcopal lay minister. With the advent of the “talkie” in 1927 and well into the 1930s, the demand for Christian films flourished. Biblical epics like “King of Kings,” “The Robe,” “The Greatest Story Ever Told,” and “The Ten Commandments” were the “tent-pole” pictures of their day.
Then in the 1940s and 1950s, provocative subject matter was introduced. As soldiers returned from World War II, foreign films became available, and stories containing the seeds of secularism, explicit sex and scandals found their way into the local movie theaters.
From the early 1900s up through the 1950s — with the erosion of cinematic morality — the church responded by doing everything it could to stop production of unsavory films. The Hays Commission and later the Catholic Legion of Decency were established to enforce their severe criticism and to exercise censorship. The prevailing thought of the day was that films were the tools of the devil, and in many church denominations, even going to a film was considered a sin. A tragic byproduct of this thought process was that Christian young people were under extreme pressure not to enter media professions. As a result, a whole generation of young people had no opportunity to contribute creatively nor to reserve “a place at the table” in Hollywood.
From the 1950s to the 1970s, the church decided to imitate secular Hollywood. Beginning with Billy Graham’s World Wide Pictures, scores of producers and ministudios tried making “church movies.” Distribution companies like Gospel Films sprang up to distribute 16mm prints of these films directly into churches. This strategy had no influence on the secular media; it just provided mostly amateur-quality movies for hard-core believers.
From the mid-1970s to 2000, faith-filled believers got angry about what they considered the morally despicable messaging of films and television — especially the way people of faith were depicted. It was not uncommon to have people of faith denounce television programming as “a Hollywood-built sewer line” directly into their living rooms. Christian organizations mobilized angry boycotts, protest marches, letter campaigns, and sometimes “hate mail” against offending producers, studios, and networks.
Around the turn of the new century, something very interesting started happening.
In May of 2000, CBS aired a two-part miniseries titled “Jesus,” and the first installment garnered 24.1 million viewers, making it the season’s highest-rated miniseries. In Europe, it was one of the highest-rated miniseries of all time. “The Miracle Maker,” “Noah’s Ark,” “The Face: Jesus in Art,” and “Mary, Mother of Jesus” soon joined the “Jesus” miniseries as being some of the most popular programing on television. It seemed like faith-friendly fare was selling.
When surveyed in those years by Barna Research, 75 percent of Americans agreed there was “too much violence in film and on television.” Sixty-five percent said there was “too much sexual activity,” 57 percent said there was “too much adult language or profanity in film and on television,” and 43 percent said there were “too many nontraditional or secular values in films.”
Christian broadcast, satellite and cable TV networks sprang up to an enthusiastic and growing worldwide audience.
Meanwhile, in the music business, only two genres were experiencing consistent growth: Christian and country and western. Album sales fell almost 29 percent in two years, but Christian and gospel music rose 19 percent, marking 19 straight quarters of growth, Daily Variety said in April 2008. “Christian music,” noted CBS News, “was outselling classical, country and western, and new age combined.”
By 2007, “the market for religious products topped $8.6 billion in annual revenue,” D. Michael Lindsay wrote in “Faith in the Halls of Power: How Evangelicals Joined the American Elite.” The Association of American Publishers called religious books “the fastest-growing segment in publishing,” while in the nonfiction category, four of the top 20 best-sellers came from Christian publishers, Christian E-Tailing Newsletter said in April 2008.
Today, according to 2017 Pew Research Center statistics, 70.6 percent of America’s 327.4 million population are Christian by some definition. In other words, there is a cumulative audience for faith-friendly media of at least 231.8 million people, who have a combined, disposable annual income somewhere close to $2.1 trillion.
Tapping into that huge audience of Christian believers who were hungry for films that reinforced their beliefs, Mel Gibson directed “The Passion of the Christ,” which grossed $83,848,082 on its opening weekend in 2004 and went on to become the highest-grossing R-rated movie up until that time. It eventually grossed more than $611 million.
In 2005, Walden Media produced “The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe,” which grossed $745,013,158. In 2008, the next in the Narnia series, “Prince Caspian,” grossed $419,665,568, and in 2010, the third installment, “Voyage of the Dawn Treader,” grossed $415,686,950.
Since 2010, there have been hundreds of faith-friendly films produced, including high-grossing titles such as “Noah,” “Hacksaw Ridge,” “Heaven is for Real,” “The Shack,” “Miracles from Heaven,” “Son of God,” and “War Room.”
In preparation for this article, I spent the better part of last month analyzing the most current statistical data I could find, starting with the budgets of films containing positive, faith-friendly values and their return-on-investment figures, and comparing them with the budgets and ROI figures of films that contained negative or non-faith-friendly values. The results are that faith-friendly films yield a 7.8 times better return on investment than non-faith-friendly films.
The future seems extremely bright, with many faith-friendly films in the pipeline for release in early 2018: “Samson” (Feb. 16), “I Can Only Imagine” (March 16), “Paul, Apostle of Christ” (March 28), “God’s Not Dead 3” (March 30), and “Mary Magdalene” (also March 30), just to mention a few.
The Christian community has responded by increased moviegoing, and the movie industry has increased its offerings to satisfy this huge market — clearly, a win-win.
• S. Bryan Hickox, D.H.L., is President and CEO of Bryan Hickox Pictures, Inc. He is an executive producer and producer of more than 80 television movies and feature films; seven of his television films have won Emmy Awards.
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Very good, concise read:
The Shroud: The only witness of the instant of Jesus' Resurrection:
jesusmariasite.org: The Shroud: The only witness of the instant of Jesus' Resurrection
...and our MT thread:
Shroud of Turin Latest News and pictures
Shroud of Turin Latest News and pictures
The Shroud: The only witness of the instant of Jesus' Resurrection:
jesusmariasite.org: The Shroud: The only witness of the instant of Jesus' Resurrection
...and our MT thread:
Shroud of Turin Latest News and pictures
Shroud of Turin Latest News and pictures
You know the name " Jesus " doesn't exist in Hebrew Holy Bible. There's no " J " in Hebrew language. Our Lord came and died in Hebrew language time. His real name begins with a Y not a J. Research about this, and you will be surprised about it. The name of our Lord got translated many times through many languages before English. Why today we have so many versions of the Holy Bible? We don't even know what the original one says anymore as well as our Lord name because the holy bible got translated many times by corrupted priests.
Christmas holiday celebration should be avoided as well because this holiday originated from Pagan aka Roman Catholic Church. Roman Catholic Church set December 25th as the Lord's birthday, but the fact is in the bible none of the apostles and the Lord gave us a command that we should celebrate his birthday and doesn't gave us a timeline of his birthday. We don't know the year, day, month, and date of our Lord born. You can research about this as well.
Now here come the questions, if December 25th is the Lord's birthday than who is Santa Claus have to do with the Lord's birthday? Does the Lord allow us to get drunk, go crazy, and in financial debt on December 25th? What does this fiction character " Santa Claus " have to do with the Lord's birthday? Fun fact: " Santa " rearrange Satan.
" He sees you when you're sleeping
He knows when you're awake
He knows if you've been bad or good
So be good for goodness sake
Goodness sake "
The above lyric got from "Santa Claus is coming to town " is supposed to refer to our Lord not this fictional character Santa Claus.
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Bro, you're the one that needs to research Christian history. If you do, you might not become a believer, but at least your misconceptions about Christianity (or Roman Catholicism) might get corrected.
It seems to me that our friend Sum is under the influence of Jehovah's Witnesses... could he free himself from their stranglehold? I wish him this, because I like him...
- so what do you think about the contenance of these links I posted?...Have you read them slightly
The first one is very concise and good - but no possibility to copy (right-click no possible)
- so what do you think about the contenance of these links I posted?...Have you read them slightly
The first one is very concise and good - but no possibility to copy (right-click no possible)
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ForgottenSeer 69673
hmm no possibility to highlighting, selecting text ... mouse doesn'ty work on this website. And for you?
OK., now, I've found the easy solution: downloaded tiny add-on called
Enable Right Click and Copy
Enable Right Click and Copy – Add-ons for Firefox
- but use it only if you found website that demand to make working this add-on, if not remove it, cause it create problems (e.g.if you would post on MT, no more possibility to selecting the text).
Bro, you're the one that needs to research Christian history. If you do, you might not become a believer, but at least your misconceptions about Christianity (or Roman Catholicism) might get corrected.
I am here to seek the truth and only the truth. I am no part of Jehovah Witness or Seventh Day Adventist or any cult religion organization. I have read the bible and I find nowhere in the bible that the Lord and the apostles command us to celebrate his birthday. Can you please show me in the bible what verse and who apostle said that the Lord's birthday is on December 25th? What does the Santa Claus have to do with the Lord's birthday on December 25th? Why do we have so many versions of the Holy Bible? The Lord did not establish a religion at all during his time. Roman Catholic Church established Christianity religion instead.
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hmm... besides, I think (and not only me) that Jehovah's Witnesses are not the Christians...but the merchants, sent by the Brooklyn office (reject their Bible, which is doctored here and there where it doesn't stick to their speech).
I really wish you all the best - and the best thing for you (and your family!.. poor family) is to get rid of their influence. Talk to a priest maybe, talk - this is not forbidden.
Read some books on the subject, e.g. by Marley Cole, Ken Guindon, Raymond Franz, ... Please
- Go to the theater, there are also some very good movies (by Mel Gibson above all!)
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Buy the book escapeallthesethings and join their forum. Was a member their for years.
If, indeed, you're seeking the truth, then great for you!
At least, I now know that you're coming from the background of Sola Scriptura (i.e., all the truths required for salvation and living can all be found in the Bible).
But let me ask you, how did the Bible come about? Did it come from the heavens? Or was it written by humans, and then compiled? Let me tell you that it was compiled and declared Word of God by not less than the Roman Catholic Church through an ecumenical council. There was a need to compile what we now call the Bible because of the many books that were considered inspired by the early Christians. The RCC decided, and so we have it now.
And think about it, if the RCC was indeed an evil organization, then they could have destroyed the Bible, or at least rejected the books that seem contradictory to what the Church practices. You have to admit that the RCC was very powerful back then, and so they had all the powers to declare the Bible, or some parts of the Bible (especially the New Testament), as uninspired.The RCC could also have chosen the gospel of Thomas, the gospel of Mary Magdalene, etc. to be inspired because some early Christians really believe the gospels' authenticity. But the RCC didn't. Think about this.
Again, you have to research Christian history and Bible history, then maybe all your questions (about Christmas day, etc.) might get answered. The Bible didn't fall down from the heavens. The books were humanly written, edited, spread, and compiled.
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