Tuning up utilities can corrupt a security product?

[Aktiffiso]

Hey this is a paranoid cuestion i am using now AVG tuneup and emsisoft, i like AVG tuneup because it automatizes the maintaince of my machine and some tools "Disk cleaner, Disk defrag, and disk doctor and disk analizer" are very useful to me but i am worry about that programs delete some "registry key" or "file" used by emsisoft and it can corrupt the product.

I think Security products are developed to not corrupt by malware and follow that argument a security product can not be corrupt for ccleaner or AVG tuneup or another product, but what do you think?
Am I in risk? Can a tuneup product corrupt security product? I see my system works ok but i am worried about my software

 

[roger_m]

Hey this is a paranoid cuestion i am using now AVG tuneup and emsisoft, i like AVG tuneup because it automatizes the maintaince of my machine and some tools "Disk cleaner, Disk defrag, and disk doctor and disk analizer" are very useful to me but i am worry about that programs delete some "registry key" or "file" used by emsisoft and it can corrupt the product.

AVG PC TuneUp only deletes unneeded keys and never anything that is needed, so you have nothing to worry about.

 

[Aktiffiso]

I think that but i like more opinions thanks bro

 

[roger_m]

I think that but i like more opinions thanks bro

I've been using AVG PC TuneUp/TuneUp Utilities for many years, starting when it is only available in German language, and in that time I've only seen a single false positive from the registry cleaner.

Some people will comment that all cleanup tools other than CCleaner are unsafe, etc. But, that's not that case based on my experience over many years.

 

[outlawxtorn]

I can't say much to AVG Tuneup but I've never experienced a tuneup utility corrupting of of my security products. If you're looking for an alternative that is also safe I would look at Kerish Doctor.

 

[Xahl]

Yea you shouldn't worry about a thing

 

[RoboMan]

There's no reason why you should use AVG Tune Up to be honest.

 

[Aktiffiso]

Hey i think i dont recive notifications about answers in this post but i read something interesting and worry. I do the same cuestion on emsisoft forums and they answer me "Every app who not are blacklisted for they can modify the emsisoft registry entries and corrupt install" Its worry imagine that Tuneup apps are very extended and 1 FP can trash a security product. Dont you think this is inaceptable or bad? I can disable registry cleaners but is worry

I need help to know if Emsisoft have any issue whith AVG Tuneup
Me:
Now do you think a registry cleaner can delete a important part of emsi software?
They:
It is technically possible for applications that are automatically allowed by our Behavior Blocker to modify our registry entries. So yes, a registry cleaner can mess up just about anything.

 

[frogboy]

I just use Windows tool disk cleanup tool here. Very safe.

 

[Aktiffiso]

Yes frogboy but for me is incredible and unaceptable a security product can be corrupted include in theory

 

[TairikuOkami]

Yes, most AVs are self-protected, but all it takes is to damage something, they are dependent on, like SmartService malware did. That is the reason, why I do not like security products, which are too dependant, like AVG or Avast require BFE service, Hitman requires "internet", Sophos needs IE browser, and etc.

SmartService malware crippled all AVs by simply blocking certificates: Remove The Requested Resource is in Use Error (Removal Guide)

 

[Aktiffiso]

I think the cleaner not have to be safe, i think the security product have to be safe, and i think emsisoft is a good software but i think they must be work harder, and if another products are "dependent", are unsecure. A years ago everyone use ccleaner to remove malware traces they can trash their system? they can trash their security products whitout know? i think a system must to be solid to resist any cleanup tool but a security product too
I know emsi not have autoprotect module visible. Now i am worried again

 

[codswollip]

"Tune Up" programs are basically snake oil programs that do not improve PC performance. I wouldn't use them. Orphaned registry entries have no impact on your system beyond taking a few extra bytes of storage space.

 

[Aktiffiso]

I think a few bytes dont damage anyone but my worry is that programs can corrupt a security tool like emsi or another av. I think too that programs have another utilities like cpu and memory optimization, and pc feels better smooth sometimes. But as I say my worry is a security product can be too weak to be corrupt for this programs

 

[roger_m]

"Tune Up" programs are basically snake oil programs that do not improve PC performance. I wouldn't use them. Orphaned registry entries have no impact on your system beyond taking a few extra bytes of storage space.

They can increase performance. They won't live up to claims of making your computer run like new, but they can help. Most tuneup programs do more than just removing orphaned registry keys. I would say that 99.9% of the time, removing so called registry errors will not lead to a noticeable improvement in PC performance. However, once I did get a big increase in performance from cleaning the registry.

 

[Aktiffiso]

They can increase performance. They won't live up to claims of making your computer run like new, but they can help. Most tuneup programs do more than just removing orphaned registry keys. I would say that 99.9% of the time, removing so called registry errors will not lead to a noticeable improvement in PC performance. However, once I did get a big increase in performance from cleaning the registry.

What mean whith you get a big increse in perfomance from cleaning the registry? did you mean clean manually?

 

[XhenEd]

To answer the OP's question, yes, they can corrupt installed security products, but only if these security products don't have self-defense or that self-defense is defective.


Regarding registry cleaning software, they can greatly improve performance only if certain "dead" registry entries are causing performance issues. From what I've read, in typical situations, registry cleaning will only give the PC 1%, at the most, of performance improvement (and this is already with thousands of dead registry entries).

And one of the reasons why registry cleaning is not recommended anymore is that the risk of registry corruption overly outweighs the gains of using it.

 

[509322]

I think Security products are developed to not corrupt by malware and follow that argument a security product can not be corrupt for ccleaner or AVG tuneup or another product, but what do you think?

Malware or malicious attacks can be developed that can disable security products partially or completely even with self-protections in place.

Tuneup utilities rarely cause issues with security products.

 

[TairikuOkami]

"Tune Up" programs are basically snake oil programs that do not improve PC performance.

I have just did a clean install of Windows Creators update 3 times and I could not get updates to work, no matter what, until I used CCleaner with WiseCare, reg cleaning included, it "magically" fixed it. I was surprised myself. I should have tried it before reinstalling, it would have saved me a ton of time.

 

[shmu26]

I have just did a clean install of Windows Creators update 3 times and I could not get updates to work, no matter what, until I used CCleaner with WiseCare, reg cleaning included, it "magically" fixed it. I was surprised myself. I should have tried it before reinstalling, it would have saved me a ton of time.

That's pretty interesting. Any possible explanations beyond the realm of magic?
Update issues are pretty inexplicable, I admit.