The topic says it all, I want to stay Virus free, what should I replace WiseVector with that uses minimal resources?
What replacement for WiseVector?
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- Feb 7, 2023
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Kaspersky Free doesn’t use too much resources, can be tweaked to be even lighter and provides solid protection. Much more solid than WV.
It you used WV only as a second opinion scanner, you can try adlice RogueKiller.
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- Apr 16, 2017
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Agree. CS mentioned trying Kaspersky Free with CF, and I am running that combo in this win10_VM, despite the fact that Kaspersky considers CF to be incompatible. After a week or so, I have not seen any obvious incompatibility.
- Feb 7, 2023
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If there is incompatibility, I would remove CF. Kaspersky is a product developed to a high standard and actively in maintenance, whereas the other one… we all know it now.
I agree with all the above but I wouldn't switch CFW for Kasperky since, if configured correctly, CFW checks then reverts to default deny (its literally the only big thing CFW has going, its annoying in a way that it blocks everything) while Kaspersky uses a default allow module with very heavy heuristic scanning.
I don't know how much resources kasperky uses compared to WV, I'm mostly using the setup on mini PCs so they run hot quickly but if its the same I'll go to kaspersky free
- Apr 16, 2017
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understood... but hard to know for sure, ie, I'm not a systems engineer
I don't get any error messages, and it all seems good, but during the installation of Kaspersky Free on win10_VM with cruelcomodo already installed, Kaspersky wants to uninstall CF, and after a quick scan KF again suggests that CF be removed. @cruelsister said ok to ignore these incompatible comments. I've read all the posts about this, no need to debate it again... (at least with me) 
- Feb 7, 2023
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It’s not the same, but from the free AVs it is the most minimal. Bitdefender uses more memory (though it won’t cause heat) and Avast IDP is a bit more active.
Default deny can be achieved via Kaspersky Intrusion Prevention but this is in the paid version only.
- Apr 16, 2017
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fwiw, I have Bitdefender Free on another win10_VM, but have not tried CF with it. A few years ago, I did not like BD, but I do like the current BD Free, it is (or feels) very light.
The problem in mini PC's is usually heat. Idle the CPU on one of my boxes runs at 65-70 degrees celcius, its a poor cooling problem so with CF and MD running I try to keep CPU/GPU (its not a NUC so internal GPU) to a minimum since it starts throttling playing a 1080p hevc 10 bit file (to give an example, that isn't too hard since it has CPU instructions but is hitting the 97 degrees celcius already).
- Sep 2, 2021
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@MrMr
I would suggest Kaspersky products according to your needs. (Default-allow but strong security with one of the best proactive protections.)
I don't know whether Kaspersky Free displays upgrade advertisements or the frequency with which they occur.
Or
Comodo Firewall with proactive configuration and HIPS disabled plus your fine-tuning or cruelconfig. (Solid default-deny security for users who know how to work with Comodo.)
I'm sure Comodo does internal tests for compatibility with supported operating systems. Comodo Firewall has been working smoothly on my fully updated Windows 10 machine.
I would suggest Kaspersky products according to your needs. (Default-allow but strong security with one of the best proactive protections.)
I don't know whether Kaspersky Free displays upgrade advertisements or the frequency with which they occur.
Or
Comodo Firewall with proactive configuration and HIPS disabled plus your fine-tuning or cruelconfig. (Solid default-deny security for users who know how to work with Comodo.)
I'm sure Comodo does internal tests for compatibility with supported operating systems. Comodo Firewall has been working smoothly on my fully updated Windows 10 machine.
Hi @Trident !
In the past, many times, I tested Kaspersky, well known protection, but for my taste I never liked its hardware performance (CPU, RAM, disk writings etc etc etc).
And if you remember, in previous messages exchange, we (you and I) declared ourselves "hardware performance maniacs"
Since I lost CF and WiseVector, I couldn't find a replacement for that combo, specially with regards to the relation "high protection" VS "low hardware impact".
I read your recommendation about Kaspersky, and I wonder if you can share your Kaspersky recommended settings.
Days ago, a post was written about Kaspersky settings: RoboMan's Kaspersky 2023 Light & Solid Settings
I also found in the web very different, confusing and contradictory recommendations.
And honestly, I'm a little lost about Kaspersky.
So @Trident , please, if possible, can you share a Kaspersky tutorial? Please, if possible, also include links (freeware version), settings etc.
Feel free to do that in this post, in a new post, or by PM with me.
And if you don't want or can't do that, no problem man!, forget it, it's nor urgent nor a priority.
Thank you in advance!
PS: My request to you is somehow related to your amazing post with tests: Video Review - Real World, Evasive Malware and Performance Test by Trident
What I still need from this your post?... the tweaks question.
Obviously and as it should be, in your post all the test were performed in default mode.
And what would be great to discover?... your same tests, but with tweaked versions for each software.
However, as you know better than I, tweaks are a "double-edged sword", sometimes you can achieve strong protection but at the cost of hurting hardware performance or blocking too much stuff... not good. So, it could be great to find a security software (preferably freeware), with tweaks (if needed), with good protection, and with the less hardware performance impact. This also could be the answer for current @MrMr post.
In the past, many times, I tested Kaspersky, well known protection, but for my taste I never liked its hardware performance (CPU, RAM, disk writings etc etc etc).
And if you remember, in previous messages exchange, we (you and I) declared ourselves "hardware performance maniacs"
Since I lost CF and WiseVector, I couldn't find a replacement for that combo, specially with regards to the relation "high protection" VS "low hardware impact".
I read your recommendation about Kaspersky, and I wonder if you can share your Kaspersky recommended settings.
Days ago, a post was written about Kaspersky settings: RoboMan's Kaspersky 2023 Light & Solid Settings
I also found in the web very different, confusing and contradictory recommendations.
And honestly, I'm a little lost about Kaspersky.
So @Trident , please, if possible, can you share a Kaspersky tutorial? Please, if possible, also include links (freeware version), settings etc.
Feel free to do that in this post, in a new post, or by PM with me.
And if you don't want or can't do that, no problem man!, forget it, it's nor urgent nor a priority.
Thank you in advance!
PS: My request to you is somehow related to your amazing post with tests: Video Review - Real World, Evasive Malware and Performance Test by Trident
What I still need from this your post?... the tweaks question.
Obviously and as it should be, in your post all the test were performed in default mode.
And what would be great to discover?... your same tests, but with tweaked versions for each software.
However, as you know better than I, tweaks are a "double-edged sword", sometimes you can achieve strong protection but at the cost of hurting hardware performance or blocking too much stuff... not good. So, it could be great to find a security software (preferably freeware), with tweaks (if needed), with good protection, and with the less hardware performance impact. This also could be the answer for current @MrMr post.
- Sep 2, 2021
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Of course it is excellent but I find it a bit of a gas factory like avast :/
Gas factory? You mean co2/global warming emissions? Good on you for being environmentally responsible!
Edit: That might qualify for the worst joke ever on MT ... my apologies, have never seen "gas factory" used like that before
Serious question though...
Im using Appcheck alongside BDFree and it is behaving wonderfully... no performance impact or fp. Do you think that adds to my protection or is it redundant? Cruelsister said once it was a good companion for WVSX and it is an automatic install for me these days no matter what av I run.
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Thank you all for the suggestions. Avast (and clones with the same engine) work great but they're very heavy CPU wise compared to WV. I don't know how Kaspersky free does with memory load and CPU usage for minimal systems compared to WV, maybe @Shadowra knows because you're always testing AVs (your videos are great!)
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- Mar 17, 2023
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Can WV be used without staying resident in realtime? So basically, on Demand?
@MrMr
Did you take those broken wings?
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As an on demand scanner I wouldnt recommend it because its slow and outdated but you can turn off the auto launch and run it when needed.
- Sep 2, 2021
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Kaspersky Free is relatively light because the editor has optimized the engine
it is no longer the greedy antivirus that it was before.Bitdefender uses the Photom technology which learns how you use your PC and adapts itself.
Gas factory? You mean co2/global warming emissions? Good on you for being environmentally responsible!
Haha
More seriously, it is a term that describes that the antivirus is a CPU / RAM consumer
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