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<blockquote data-quote="zidong" data-source="post: 1109215" data-attributes="member: 115014">Microsoft Defender. 3rd party antiviruses are bloatware with tons of useless modules - cleaners, shredders, extensions, password managers, vpns, driver updaters, software updaters, optimizations etc. 99% of OS and app crashes, bsods, slowdowns etc are related to 3rd party antivirus apps or optimization apps etc. Almost impossible to completely uninstall. Sometimes only a clean Windows reinstall solves the problems. You should listen to what the best cybersecurity experts says, not some random youtubers and pseudo experts.Tavis Ormandy:I get asked constantly what av to use. You&#039;re missing the point; av creates more problems than it solves, and we&#039;re overdue an av slammer.Justin Schuh:AV products poison the software ecosystem because their invasive and poorly-implemented code makes it difficult for browser vendors and other developers to improve their own security.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="zidong, post: 1109215, member: 115014"] Microsoft Defender. 3rd party antiviruses are bloatware with tons of useless modules - cleaners, shredders, extensions, password managers, vpns, driver updaters, software updaters, optimizations etc. 99% of OS and app crashes, bsods, slowdowns etc are related to 3rd party antivirus apps or optimization apps etc. Almost impossible to completely uninstall. Sometimes only a clean Windows reinstall solves the problems. You should listen to what the best cybersecurity experts says, not some random youtubers and pseudo experts. [B]Tavis Ormandy[/B]: I get asked constantly what av to use. You're missing the point; av creates more problems than it solves, and we're overdue an av slammer. [B]Justin Schuh[/B]: AV products poison the software ecosystem because their invasive and poorly-implemented code makes it difficult for browser vendors and other developers to improve their own security. [/QUOTE]

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