Approx. start date
Jul 11, 2019
Operating System
  • Windows 10
  • List of current issues
    PC won't restart from GUI, needs multiple attempts to start after shutdown
    Steps taken, but unsuccessful?
    Ran sfc /scannow and DISM, disabled Intel Management Engine, uninstalled security softs and recovery app, deleted and merged partitions.

    oldschool

    Level 35
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    I need to clean install Windows 10 but I'm having trouble entering BIOS to change the boot order > USB. Is it possible to clean install W10 using MCT's setup.exe? :unsure: It looks to me like it only allows an in-place install with options to keep apps & files, files only or nothing at all. I've never clean installed Windows before but I'd prefer to as this would be the best option so I can wipe my entire disk.I'm not certain I can do this without entering BIOS, etc. TIA (y):)
     

    oldschool

    Level 35
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    Yes you can use the MCT tool.
    You will need to get into the bios.
    In the settings section of recovery
    View attachment 217014
    Yes, i went to advanced startup but there is no option to change firmware settings. My PC is older. I believe I can only get into BIOS from startup and the interval is short before Windows loads. I will try once again since you suggest it. I have nothing to lose except a sore head - from banging! :emoji_grimacing::LOL::LOL::LOL:
     

    venustus

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    Common keys to enter the BIOS are F1, F2, F10, Delete, Esc, as well as key combinations like Ctrl + Alt + Esc or Ctrl + Alt + Delete, although those are more common on older machines.

    Here's a list of common BIOS keys by brand. Depending on the age of your model, the key may be different.

    • ASRock: F2 or DEL
    • ASUS: F2 for all PCs, F2 or DEL for Motherboards
    • Acer: F2 or DEL
    • Dell: F2 or F12
    • ECS: DEL
    • Gigabyte / Aorus: F2 or DEL
    • HP: F10
    • Lenovo (Consumer Laptops): F2 or Fn + F2
    • Lenovo (Desktops): F1
    • Lenovo (ThinkPads): Enter then F1.
    • MSI: DEL for motherboards and PCs
    • Microsoft Surface Tablets: Press and hold volume up button.
    • Origin PC: F2
    • Samsung: F2
    • Toshiba: F2
    • Zotac: DEL
     

    oldschool

    Level 35
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    Got into BIOS and made a couple of changes but did not write them down :rolleyes::rolleyes: but did not see how to change boot order to allow startup on USB.

    My machine is a Lenovo i530 circa 2009 + SSD instead of of original HDD.. At least I'm able to muscle my way into startup, which usually necessitates a couple of attempts or more. - and I have more confidence in getting into BIOS. I will have to investigate further, but not tonight. Time for some vegetation on the TV with my sweetie! Then sleep until I can take another crack at it.

    @Robbie - I keep in mind your adage that "Sometimes you have to break it to fix it"! I don't know if that always applies to messing with BIOS.:cool::sleep::sleep::sleep:

    I got into Bios and used MCT to clean install which was painless in and of itself, but I did not wipe the disk. The start/restart problem remains! Maybe a hardware issue? All suggestions welcome as to the possible nature of and/or solutions to this issue. :unsure:

    Now I am off to bed for sure. :sleep::sleep::sleep:
     

    oldschool

    Level 35
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    I'm now wondering if I did not really clean install because I did not wipe the disk and the whole install process was rather fast. I was uncertain of the various partition selections to make, e.g. delete, wipe, etc. and chose to install on my existing main partition. Advice would be welcome.
     

    Gandalf_The_Grey

    Level 21
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    I'm now wondering if I did not really clean install because I did not wipe the disk and the whole install process was rather fast. I was uncertain of the various partition selections to make, e.g. delete, wipe, etc. and chose to install on my existing main partition. Advice would be welcome.
    I think you didn't do a complete clean install.
    You can do that from within windows 10 with the refresh and reset option.
    If Windows 10 is the only operation system in use and you have a backup of our personal data you can delete all partitions and let Windows install on the (all) free space. You don't have to create partitions yourself.
     

    Gandalf_The_Grey

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    @Gandalf_The_Grey Thanks. So I should choose "delete" and then choose "wipe", or first choose "wipe"? I don't care if I have to reinstall. I'm on a mission and I want that mystery startup issue resoved!:X3: That is, after I have my morning Assam tea! :LOL::LOL:(y)
    Just delete them all till you only have free space and then tell windows to install there.
    No need to create any partitions windows will do that on it's own.
    When done be very careful what you install next so that you can prevent the startup issue (maybe driver or security program related?).
     
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