Absolutely the most powerful antivirus?

artek

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In enterprise yes, because people need to process attachments under time pressure, in a home environment I don't see this as an entrypoint.
Only case where I've worried at home is when previously legit (but not popular) websites have been hijacked - this has happened twice this year to me but per VT sites were clean - even though they had clearly been hijacked as there was porn instead of the product they sell. Maybe VT didn't find something that was there but in any case I think that's a valid risk for home users.
Still, as JS is turned off by default in my browser, it would need to be a really high end exploit to get through.

I used to run noscript and umatrix with firefox too but with Chrome something that breaks out of the browser is so rare I don't think it's worth the headache anymore.
 

shmu26

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I want to do a reality check. Is ESET (default settings) a top AV, or not? Someone posted today on a local forum in my country about an issue he had with installing Bitdefender, and someone else ragged on him that he wasted his money, because ESET is tops. I pointed out that ESET has done poorly in the past two years in the major AV tests. He replied, "We technicians know all about that, but our actual day-to-day experience shows that ESET is superior."
What's your opinion?
 

bribon77

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I want to do a reality check. Is ESET (default settings) a top AV, or not? Someone posted today on a local forum in my country about an issue he had with installing Bitdefender, and someone else ragged on him that he wasted his money, because ESET is tops. I pointed out that ESET has done poorly in the past two years in the major AV tests. He replied, "We technicians know all about that, but our actual day-to-day experience shows that ESET is superior."
What's your opinion?
Well, in a way, I agree. Why? Because one thing is real life and another is the assumptions.
We security lovers worry about things that are hard to happen in real life.
 

SFox

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Hello. I think the most powerful antivirus is your own brain. For example, no antivirus will give you 100% protection against phishing. Yesterday I went to a social network and a message came from my friend asking me to help her win the photo contest and vote for her photo. And a link to the site with a vote. I opened the link in another browser, the antivirus (Kaspersky free) did not react to this in any way. There were two photos on the site - my girlfriend and some unknown girl, and my girlfriend was 4 votes ahead of the vote. I clicked the Vote button and I was immediately thrown to some unknown site where there was a large form with supposedly authorization in a social network so that the vote counted. The design of this authorization page immediately shows that it is phishing. But Kaspersky, in spite of the function of heuristic analysis of pages for phishing, did not react in any way. Only an attentive user would figure it out. That's why I say - the best antivirus, this is your own brain :) Well, a regular antivirus as a program in the system is to help you :)
 

Nightwalker

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I want to do a reality check. Is ESET (default settings) a top AV, or not? Someone posted today on a local forum in my country about an issue he had with installing Bitdefender, and someone else ragged on him that he wasted his money, because ESET is tops. I pointed out that ESET has done poorly in the past two years in the major AV tests. He replied, "We technicians know all about that, but our actual day-to-day experience shows that ESET is superior."
What's your opinion?

Of course it is, just look at the quality of ESET research, the number of malwares and campaigns they discovered and you will see that ESET is the real deal, not the copy cat plague that make up the majority of security vendors nowadays.

ESET has best in class heuristics and emulator, best in class PUA and malvertising protection, strong signatures, low false positive, low system performance hit, very nice default settings (contrary to popular security forums users opinion) and modules that complement each other very well; it is a very nice coded and well thought security solution.

It may not get the best results in major AV tests (that are "gamed" anway), but it does a stellar job in real life scenario usage.
 

icerulez

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i tried lots of antiviruses since my childhood. Eset v3 was awesome. After norton and mcafee were awesome. but today i belive bullguard is the most powerful antivirus on the market . Double layer firewall etc etc.if you want more lightweight antivirus you can pick eset av or avira free with comodo firewall free. which is uber combination for free !
 

blackice

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Of course it is, just look at the quality of ESET research, the number of malwares and campaigns they discovered and you will see that ESET is the real deal, not the copy cat plague that make up the majority of security vendors nowadays.

ESET has best in class heuristics and emulator, best in class PUA and malvertising protection, strong signatures, low false positive, low system performance hit, very nice default settings (contrary to popular security forums users opinion) and modules that complement each other very well; it is a very nice coded and well thought security solution.

It may not get the best results in major AV tests (that are "gamed" anway), but it does a stellar job in real life scenario usage.
I’m wondering where ESET has done poorly? Because they detected .4% less samples than Kaspersky? Is that poor? They seem to do decent in the hub, and most of that is against zero days/low detection.
 

alv222

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Oct 11, 2019
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In your opinion, which is the most powerful antivirus ever?
I'd say ZoneAlarm extreme security, it has the strongest heuristics i've ever seen. Plus it uses kaspersky signatures and the fastest support i ever saw (asked via online chat and in 2 minutes i was talking with support). But it's heavy. It's performing well rn, Test antivirus software for Windows 10 - August 2019 and also https://malwaretips.com/threads/malware-samples-13-24-10-2019.95878/ .
 

show-Zi

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Although this is a reluctant opinion, we believe that AV software that has been continuously developed is not so different in detection and removal. If it is assumed that 'complete protection is impossible', isn't it useful to use comodo's method to execute with the target temporarily isolated?:unsure::coffee:
 

bribon77

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Although this is a reluctant opinion, we believe that AV software that has been continuously developed is not so different in detection and removal. If it is assumed that 'complete protection is impossible', isn't it useful to use comodo's method to execute with the target temporarily isolated?:unsure::coffee:
Dear friend @show-Zi. Keep in mind that hackers are always one step ahead of AVs, therefore, an automatic application of Sanbox or an anti-exe seems stronger than the signatures of an AV.
 

oldschool

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I'd say ZoneAlarm extreme security, it has the strongest heuristics i've ever seen. Plus it uses kaspersky signatures and the fastest support i ever saw (asked via online chat and in 2 minutes i was talking with support). But it's heavy. It's performing well rn, Test antivirus software for Windows 10 - August 2019 and also https://malwaretips.com/threads/malware-samples-13-24-10-2019.95878/ .

And you will need something strong to remove it when you finally do, something like an overhead pulley system for car engine removal! ;)
 

show-Zi

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Dear friend @show-Zi. Keep in mind that hackers are always one step ahead of AVs, therefore, an automatic application of Sanbox or an anti-exe seems stronger than the signatures of an AV.
Dear friend,@bribon77 :)
Agree. To summarize my opinion, most AV software is strong against known threats. Vendors are differentiating themselves from other companies only in terms of protection and countermeasures against unknown threats.
 

alv222

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And you will need something strong to remove it when you finally do, something like an overhead pulley system for car engine removal! ;)
I had an issue with the antiransomware component of ES and i just run their clean tool to uninstall that component: http://download.zonealarm.com/bin/free/support/download/CLEAN.exe . It's not that hiden as it can be found at How to Upgrade your ZoneAlarm software
If you had an issue uninstalling you could have contacted support.
 

Nightwalker

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Although this is a reluctant opinion, we believe that AV software that has been continuously developed is not so different in detection and removal. If it is assumed that 'complete protection is impossible', isn't it useful to use comodo's method to execute with the target temporarily isolated?:unsure::coffee:

Yes, sure it is, but anti executables and sandboxies dont have much value for the average user (not the completely layman) in a domestic environment, they are much more suitable for corporate usage.

The reason for this is because in most cases they are just blocking what the user wants to do without telling "him" why (usually they cant mark the file as malicious like an antivirus).

For example, the home user wants to run a crack (with a patch function), the antiexecutable or/and sandbox will simple be disabled because he wants to pirate that software and he will run the file anyway, unless the antivirus explicitly tell him that the file is actually dangerous, so in another words, get the real crack and not a disguised malware.

I dont need an antiexecutable to block hot party photos.jpg.exe, but I want an antivirus to protect me if I made a misjudgment while running the software that I need, a thing that a sandbox, because of some nasty malware tricks, cant do.

Kaspersky, ESET, Symantec and other big players would love to save resources that they spend with signature crafting, cloud infrastructure, researchers, false positive testing with "static" solutions like sandboxies and anti executables, but they cant do that, because those are not the answer for the malware problem.
 
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show-Zi

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The reason for this is because in most cases they are just blocking what the user wants to do without telling "him" why (usually they cant mark the file as malicious like an antivirus).

I think this is a drawback of sandbox and anti-.exe. For users who are not familiar with pc in particular, it includes the possibility of becoming the “worst software”.

Did you get rid of the dust on someone's butt, or was it a molester whose purpose was to touch the body? Regardless of whether it is good or bad, it is the same as a guard warning only by behavior.
 

Tiamati

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I saw a lot of people indicating Kaspesky AV... I'd like to know the the free Kaspersky solution (kaspersky free cloud) has all the AV features from the paid version (same signatures, heuristics, cloud protection, behavior blocker, application control and trusted application mode, etc). I could not find any specific information about those in free version. The only thing i know is that it does not have all "extra features" (not directly related with AV module itself) from paid version, like password manager, VPN, etc...
 
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