With all do respect HeffeD a troll is defined as someone who joins a forum for the sole purpose of flaming. 99% of what is said by a troll is meaningless then they are gone. I am not one of them. I have been a member for awhile now and this is my thread which I started. I also posted this to show members of this community the unprofessionalism that Melih constantly shows. But HeffeD you are on the offense cause you represent Comodo. Sorry once again but no one here is trolling nor should be labeled as such.
AV-Comparatives.org, bullying, censorship and financial deals with Anti Virus vendors
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Please take a look at the definition from the forum rules.
The first two point apply.
And as I've mentioned more than once, I do not represent Comodo. Nor am I on the offense...
The first two point apply.
And as I've mentioned more than once, I do not represent Comodo. Nor am I on the offense...
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Thread title : AV-Comparatives.org, bullying, censorship and financial deals with Anti Virus vendors ... Waiting to read your opinions
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Chiron
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Jack said:'Maximus' username was detected as being user by a member who previously was banned under the 'Dieselman' username (a previous banned member) .... Accounts were merged and user was banned again.
Thread title : AV-Comparatives.org, bullying, censorship and financial deals with Anti Virus vendors ... Waiting to read your opinions
Here's my response:
http://forums.comodo.com/melihs-corner-ceo-talkdiscussionsblog/avcomparativesorg-bullying-and-financial-deals-with-anti-virus-vendors-t78869.0.html;msg564858#msg564858
I may not always agree with Melih, in fact I don't, but I definitely don't agree with the way that AV products are currently tested.
I agree. If you test a product you test it as a whole or if it doesn't fit the methodology, you create a methodology for it and similar product. Main issue for AVC is comodo sandbox, it block everything not allowed so they consider it is not adequate to their testing methodology...
bogdan
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Some users also do not understand that a product offering multiple layers of security doesn't need to be perfect in tests that are focused on specific layers (such as detection tests). So yes, considering this aspect, testing a product as a whole produces a result that every user can understand. But it still remains uncertain if the average user can answer HIPS pop-ups correctly or use the auto-sandbox correctly. So far, the only solution seems to be the clear separation between threats stopped without user interaction and threats stopped after displaying a prompt, also taking into account false positives (how often the product displays pop-ups when legit apps are launched).
What make me skeptic about AVC is they test KIS (HIPS & Sandbox) , NIS (BB), F-secure (HIPS), Avast (BB & sandbox), ESET (BB) but CIS (HIPS & Sandbox) is not adequate...
bogdan said:
That's what I gathered.
They said they tested Avast with its sandbox, but they said they couldn't test CIS as a whole product because its sandbox interfered with their automated processes. This is likely due to the fact that any unrecognized process is sandboxed.
However, unless their automated processes change in some way in the course of normal operation, (which would alter the file hash) a simple 'do not sandbox again' answer to an alert would solve that. Unless of course, these automated processes are attempting to inject malware, which would be a bad idea to tell it not to sandbox the process...
Without knowing their exact methodology, it's difficult to say, but it seems like only a few minutes of configuration may be able to solve whatever problems they were having. Doesn't seem like much to ask if you're getting paid 8000 Euros for it.
It kind of sounds like they don't want any user interaction from a security product. If you choose to use a HIPS, you're going to get user interaction.
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Well its like Comodo company survive with any issues occurred however their product remains stable and effective that users still used it.
Bugs were one of the reason that supposed to be action long time before and there will be no problem when a program is cleared from bugs.
Bugs were one of the reason that supposed to be action long time before and there will be no problem when a program is cleared from bugs.
Nathan Wootton
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How are AV-C being unprofessional, unlike Comodo who released emails to the public?
Valentin N
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IBK's response to complaint about NDA
Its just a standard one - (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1980589&postcount=62)
Its just a standard one - (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1980589&postcount=62)
Nathan Wootton
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anitac said:
Comodo does that because AV-C is trying to squize more money than they should and that's not okey.
Comodo also wants to show how they, so that we know what they are
How is AV-C trying to squeeze more money? Comodo had already knew what they were getting into price wise when they signed the first deal with AV-C.
Ok so I am working on a new piece for my blog thats in the works and I want to know: If you don't think this is independent how should the test look? How should they be funded?
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