Battle AV Suites Included VPN which is good?

[Slerion]

So i want to buy soon a new Security suite , iam using ATM Surfshark ( happy with it ) and still have 2 years on it.

but as a backup VPN and for other Locations i would like to buy a Security suite with a VPN.

So my question is which doesn suck .

Like from Avast , Avira , bitdefender , kaspersky and more most include them "for free" in their premium subs like Avast Ultimate / One.

Would be great if P2P is allowed , maybe streaming servers , and 10 devices ( will also buy a 10 device license atleast )

Iam eying atm with a Avast Ultimate 3 years for 10 devices sub ( includes VPN ) i could get it pretty cheap

but does the AVast VPN utilize the HMA SERVERS ?

 

[Digmor Crusher]

Instead of buying a bloated security suite why not just buy a good AV such as Kaspersky, FSecure or Bitdefender and save some money. For a backup VPN just use the Proton free version, it works well for me.

 

[Slerion]

Instead of buying a bloated security suite why not just buy a good AV such as Kaspersky, FSecure or Bitdefender and save some money. For a backup VPN just use the Proton free version, it works well for me.

Cause Windscribe free is extremely Limited , and i intent to buy a full suit anyway pretty simple. kinda asking more about experiences than Oppinions.

 

[gery79]

i use AVG which has vpn included . F_secure has a very good one

 

[Shadowra]

Kaspersky includes a VPN based on Hotspot Shield. It's generally efficient and helps me out when Mullvald doesn't offer the country I want.

 

[Silverwing]

Kaspersky's VPN is actually very fast. Recommend using it especially as its a amazing anti-virus aswell.

 

[transformer69]

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but does the AVast VPN utilize the HMA SERVERS ?

Yes it does. i have used HMA vpn, the speeds were slow and they showed hundreds of location but many of them didn't work.

 

[Digmor Crusher]

Cause Windscribe free is extremely Limited , and i intent to buy a full suit anyway pretty simple. kinda asking more about experiences than Oppinions.

Ok, sorry.

 

[WyntechUmbrella]

I've tried most AV suites, and most included VPNs are decent only. They are enough for the occasional use, but way less fast/reliable/private than a separate VPN if you plan on actively using it.

I don't like bloated security suites and I always disable their added features (VPN, password manager, etc...). I advise you to buy a solid AV such as ESET NOD32 or Internet Security, and complement it with a reliable VPN (Mullvad, IVPN and ProtonVPN comes to mind).

 

[Sorrento]

There are far better VPN's than with a suite, even if that's not what you want at the moment - Mullvad for example, IVPN, & there are others even AdGuardVPN

Cross-posted with above

 

[partha_roy]

Any specific reason you are insisting on using an AV suite with a VPN? Like the others here, I would also suggest using a stand-alone VPN like Proton or iTop; usually, stand-alone VPN providers offer more comprehensive options

 

[Ahmed.essawy]

I recommend " Kaspersky's VPN " , Its communication channels are very fast and it will be convenient for you to perform operations

 

[Slerion]

There are far better VPN's than with a suite, even if that's not what you want at the moment - Mullvad for example, IVPN, & there are others even AdGuardVPN

Cross-posted with above

Any specific reason you are insisting on using an AV suite with a VPN? Like the others here, I would also suggest using a stand-alone VPN like Proton or iTop; usually, stand-alone VPN providers offer more comprehensive options

I've tried most AV suites, and most included VPNs are decent only. They are enough for the occasional use, but way less fast/reliable/private than a separate VPN if you plan on actively using it.

I don't like bloated security suites and I always disable their added features (VPN, password manager, etc...). I advise you to buy a solid AV such as ESET NOD32 or Internet Security, and complement it with a reliable VPN (Mullvad, IVPN and ProtonVPN comes to mind).

explained it kinda already iam running Surfshark atm ( happy with it ) and iam simply planning to buy a Suite anyway and they include in 99% of cases a VPN , so why not choose a suite ( which i buy anyway ) with the best VPN thats included literarily for free with the suite that i buy anyway.

an example here
Like if you ( or the majority ) said that the AVG VPN absolutely sucks but the Avast / kaspersky / bitdefender ones are "decent" then i would absolutely ignore avg in this example...

its like if you intend to buy a car and get with one car 12 months of shitty food for free and with the other at the same price 12 months medio ocre or decent food for free.

i would choose the 2nd option.

Should have written a bigger disclaimer / explanation in the initial post....

 

[Moonhorse]

Cant recommend avast/avg vpn, its very very slow ...even free proton vpn is faster than it

as ppl mentioned above, kaspersky is very good

 

[WyntechUmbrella]

explained it kinda already iam running Surfshark atm ( happy with it ) and iam simply planning to buy a Suite anyway and they include in 99% of cases a VPN , so why not choose a suite ( which i buy anyway ) with the best VPN thats included literarily for free with the suite that i buy anyway.

an example here
Like if you ( or the majority ) said that the AVG VPN absolutely sucks but the Avast / kaspersky / bitdefender ones are "decent" then i would absolutely ignore avg in this example...

its like if you intend to buy a car and get with one car 12 months of shitty food for free and with the other at the same price 12 months medio ocre or decent food for free.

i would choose the 2nd option.

Should have written a bigger disclaimer / explanation in the initial post....

I understand what you mean. In that case, here's what I've experienced with VPNs from the security suites I tested:

- The best has been hands down F-Secure VPN (part of F-Secure TOTAL). It's the only one that really felt like a serious fully fledge VPN, and they really have put a lot of ressource and effort into it. If I'm not mistaken, F-Secure also have their own servers (or at least it isn't some rebrand of an already existing product). Lastly F-Secure privacy policy is one of the best.

- Bitdefender and Kaspersky were decent and felt kind of similar to some aspects. They both have partnered with Hotspot Shield (unless things have changed since then). However I had some issues with being disconnected after a while.

- Norton 360 was very stable connexion wise, but it was slower than others.

- McAfee was overall very good, but I hated that you needed to keep auto-renewal as you otherwise lost the unlimited VPN.

- G Data VPN was not very good, but it's a new product so it might improve over time.

- Avast was decent too (I think they're using Hide My Ass VPN, since they bought it a few years back), but I had some slowdown and connection issues.

Basically, if a VPN is something you will use only occasionally, they all do the job more or less decently. But if having a reliable VPN is a big factor when choosing a security suite, only F-Secure seems to offer what I would call a great VPN. Please keep in mind that I'm not a professional tester and this was only my personal experience. Don't forget to use the free trials of the security suite you plan to buy before making a purchase, that's the best rule to avoid disappointment and the unnecessary hassle of asking for a refund.

 

[transformer69]

I understand what you mean. In that case, here's what I've experienced with VPNs from the security suites I tested:

- The best has been hands down F-Secure VPN (part of F-Secure TOTAL). It's the only one that really felt like a serious fully fledge VPN, and they really have put a lot of ressource and effort into it. If I'm not mistaken, F-Secure also have their own servers (or at least it isn't some rebrand of an already existing product). Lastly F-Secure privacy policy is one of the best.

- Bitdefender and Kaspersky were decent and felt kind of similar to some aspects. They both have partnered with Hotspot Shield (unless things have changed since then). However I had some issues with being disconnected after a while.

- Norton 360 was very stable connexion wise, but it was slower than others.

- McAfee was overall very good, but I hated that you needed to keep auto-renewal as you otherwise lost the unlimited VPN.

- G Data VPN was not very good, but it's a new product so it might improve over time.

- Avast was decent too (I think they're using Hide My Ass VPN, since they bought it a few years back), but I had some slowdown and connection issues.

Basically, if a VPN is something you will use only occasionally, they all do the job more or less decently. But if having a reliable VPN is a big factor when choosing a security suite, only F-Secure seems to offer what I would call a great VPN. Please keep in mind that I'm not a professional tester and this was only my personal experience. Don't forget to use the free trials of the security suite you plan to buy before making a purchase, that's the best rule to avoid disappointment and the unnecessary hassle of asking for a refund.

AFAIK, F-secure uses Avira's vpn backend.
Avira operates it's own vpn servers, they're a white label oem for many brands. ( White Label )
Avg, Avast both use HMA backend.
Norton uses SurfEasy backend.
Mcafee uses Tunnel Bear.

Anyone knows what vpn backend Trend Micro and G data use?

 

[WyntechUmbrella]

AFAIK, F-secure uses Avira's vpn backend.
Avira operates it's own vpn servers, they're a white label oem for many brands. ( White Label )
Avg, Avast both use HMA backend.
Norton uses SurfEasy backend.
Mcafee uses Tunnel Bear.

Anyone knows what vpn backend Trend Micro and G data use?

I knew F-Secure was using Avira's engine, but I didn't knew they used their VPN backend as well. Same for Norton, I thought it was proprietary. Thanks for educating me on the matter. On a side note, isn't this making F-Secure too much reliant on Avira, a competing product now owned by Norton (GEN Digital) ?

 

[FALLEN]

F-Secure Total then, but don't know about your expectation of speed. I can get maximum 450-450Mbps w/ F-Secure Freedome. If you have a 500Mbps or faster connection, their European servers are generally pretty slow; only Finland and the US servers have decent speeds. F-Secure Freedome doesn't offer WireGuard protocol btw. I tested with OpenVPN/UDP.

Useless for Netflix and Paramount+ (US) but reliably unblocks Prime Video and HBO/Max in my experience.

About torrenting:

F-Secure User Guides

Guides and manuals for your F-Secure products

help.f-secure.com

 

[Spartan]

So i want to buy soon a new Security suite , iam using ATM Surfshark ( happy with it ) and still have 2 years on it.

but as a backup VPN and for other Locations i would like to buy a Security suite with a VPN.

So my question is which doesn suck .

Like from Avast , Avira , bitdefender , kaspersky and more most include them "for free" in their premium subs like Avast Ultimate / One.

Would be great if P2P is allowed , maybe streaming servers , and 10 devices ( will also buy a 10 device license atleast )

Iam eying atm with a Avast Ultimate 3 years for 10 devices sub ( includes VPN ) i could get it pretty cheap

but does the AVast VPN utilize the HMA SERVERS ?

they all suck, just get a standalone VPN! I've tried them all, nothing comes close to the speed of hide.me . 1 subscription allows you to connect 10 devices simultaneously and they have a 0 logging policy and servers all across the world. When connected to the VPN, my internet speed is exactly the same as if I was connected without it, meaning there is no impact on speed, provided you connect to the closest server to the country you live in.


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[Slerion]

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