New Update F-Secure beta version updates

bazang

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Can i have the source?
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Jonny Quest

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This is not godd news. Why? I don't understand.
From following their forum, they are a hurting company who have gotten a lot of blow back from some of the products discontinued, or changed, that may have needed to?
See the last paragraph in this post.
 

Jonny Quest

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What we do, I need to be confirmed in all of this, is that the eventual change into Avira was posted by a Contributor, and not an employee. I asked that question on the forum, unless anyone here has a more concrete post to link to?
 
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Szellem

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What we do, I need to be confirmed in all of this, is that the eventual change into Avira was posted by a Contributor, and not an employee. I asked that question on the forum, unless anyone here has a more concrete post to link to?
I will be curious to see if it is confirmed.
 

bazang

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in a couple of months, we will see a new saying: gendigital adquires f-secure

F-Secure is in bad financial shape. WithSecure is even worse financial shape.

I bet NortonLifelock purchases F-Secure. Norton owns Avira. You can clearly see in the 19.9 beta Task Manager screenshots Avira logo processes - F-Secure is not even hiding it.

The AV industry is undergoing major consolidation over the past years. Norton wants to control all the know AV in the Universe.

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Another confirmation that the path of simplification and flattening leads nowhere in a hyper-competitive market. Emsisoft could be next. Abandoning the firewall, simplifying settings, minimizing changes, unwillingness to take risks, lack of innovation... You can't just make a decent product and expect everything to be fine.
 

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In my opinion the less control the average user has over a AV/AM the better as most have fingers that don't understand, but as CyberDevil says simplification don't seem to work - As some users like lots of bells & whistles & knobs to turn & twiddle even though they have little understanding of what they are doing?
 
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bazang

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In my opinion the less control the average user has over a AV/AM the better as most have fingers that don't understand
Security should not be an option for ANY users. It should be imposed. Unmanaged devices should not be permitted by law, regulation or a government policy.

As some users like lots of bells & whistles & knobs to turn & twiddle even though they have little understanding of what they are doing?
This is because security knowledge is not a societal priority.

Global societal priorities are sports, "productivity," profits, over-eating, not exercising, wasting time gaming & social media, and so many other things. Security is always an afterthought.

Like most things in life, dramatic change does not happen until a calamity or huge negative impact happens.

Digital security - despite trillions of dollars spent - despite all the security and regulatory frameworks - is largely a failure because it is upon the organization or the individual to be accountable & responsible for implementing it, testing it, maintaining it, break-fix it, support it - and gain all the knowledge necessary to accomplish these goals & objectives.

People do not do what is in their best interests. All you have to do in most any country is take a walk and you see 50+% of everyone you see has a BMI of 39.
Digital security should be guided by laws, regulations and government policies that mimic the same level of priority and urgency as a highly impactful public health crises such as COVID. Because the world is interconnected and what a person does on their system can literally affect hundreds of millions of people in the worst case scenario.

Things will never change until a global calamity happens. Some security event brings down entire national electrical grids or borks the entire financial system and people cannot get their money. The best thing that can happen is hackers target billionaires and top politicians, and steal their money through hacks. If that happens, then you will see action. Will it be enough? Probably not.

The rules & requirements to obtain a driver's license are far more strict than basic security requirements. Which of the two is more dangerous - which of the two has a far-reaching affect - a vehicle or a computer? The correct answer is based upon common sense - the most globally impactful device in terms of security is a digital device.

Security is not software. Security is a process. That process needs to be imposed upon the general population and enforced because humans that are given options are going to be non-compliant and create risks that extend to millions of others.
 

bazang

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Based upon the evidence, it appears that F-Secure is working directly with Avira to replace the entire F-Secure internals. This only makes sense if F-Secure is going to become another member of the GenDigital Group of companies.

The unannounced End of Life of DeepGuard and the removal of other security features is proof that F-Secure leadership is up to something. When corporate C Level leadership makes these kinds of silent moves, it always tends to involve things that are going to be unpopular or receive backlash.

This smacks of a Kaspersky-Ultra AV style move. F-Secure's silence on all the changes in 19.9 is thunderous. It means bad things from a user's perspective are going to happen.

Until proven otherwise, it is time to uninstall F-Secure and move onto something else. What that something else is, remains a matter of personal choice. However, there are fewer and fewer options remaining as every year passes.
 

Jonny Quest

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@bazang "Security is not software. Security is a process". Profound, yet for the average user, it is also a tool, a safety net.

And back to the thread topic at hand, well sort of, Ville (F -Secure Mod/Product expert) did not respond to the replies posted, and I don't think they will. I'm thinking F-Secure sold their soul to Gen Digital already, and the architecture, the re-engineering has been a part of the merger, that they're keeping it under wraps for now?

It's a marriage made in heaven in this regard, both apps have the VPN and Password Manager incorporated in the app itself. Both VPN/s use Amazon servers. Maybe that was part of the initial discontinuation of the Freedome app, to make it more of a seamless transition from F-Secure into F-Secure Avira?

Edit: As F-Secure maintains its vice like grip on trying to be the king of FPs 😂😂

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