New Update F-Secure beta version updates

[TuxTalk]

@bazang "Security is not software. Security is a process". Profound, yet for the average user, it is also a tool, a safety net.

And back to the thread topic at hand, well sort of, Ville (F -Secure Mod/Product expert) did not respond to the replies posted, and I don't think they will. I'm thinking F-Secure sold their soul to Gen Digital already, and the architecture, the re-engineering has been a part of the merger, that they're keeping it under wraps for now?

It's a marriage made in heaven in this regard, both apps have the VPN and Password Manager incorporated in the app itself. Both VPN/s use Amazon servers. Maybe that was part of the initial discontinuation of the Freedome app, to make it more of a seamless transition from F-Secure into F-Secure Avira?

Edit: As F-Secure maintains its vice like grip on trying to be the king of FPs

Real-World Protection Test July-October 2024

The second half year results of the ongoing Real-World Protection Test July-October 2024 are now available.

www.av-comparatives.org

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Never have any FP with Trend, AV-C are a bunch of Noobs.

 

[Oldie1950]

I renewed my F-Secure subscription a few days ago. Due to the switch from F-Secure to Avira, I requested a refund of the subscription costs.

 

[Jonny Quest]

I renewed my F-Secure subscription a few days ago. Due to the switch from F-Secure to Avira, I requested a refund of the subscription costs.

At one time, I had a subscription to Avira Pro which I'm now installing again on all of my PC's. It's also nicer to work with a portal that actually has more information and functionally to it than F-Secure's stripped down version.

 

[simmerskool]

Emsisoft could be next. Abandoning the firewall, simplifying settings, minimizing changes, ...

"could be next" in what sense? taken over by Norton group (I forget the correct name), or taken over by another? I don't see that happening. My recent usage of Emsi has been very positive (fwiw) and I sense their independence fwiw2. They stopped developing their firewall years ago, saying windows fire was good (enough) for integration with Emsisoft. Or I hope they stay independent.

 

[Sunqfu]

It's really sad to see F-Secure slowly melting away.

 

[bazang]

@bazang "Security is not software. Security is a process". Profound, yet for the average user, it is also a tool, a safety net.

The average user thinks that security is software and there are security software publishers that pander to that user ignorance. It is a big reason why the malware problem will never be solved. Security software is like putting a bandaid onto a broken leg and saying "OK. There you go. You are fixed."

The security software publishing industry has poisoned the global population by preying upon users' ignorance. That's what has happened over the past decades.

Average users, without knowledge, need way more than just a security software. Their systems need to be managed. By that I mean there are lots of things that average users need to be prohibited doing.

Edit: As F-Secure maintains its vice like grip on trying to be the king of FPs

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I have seen this always wonders what AV-C is up to? I have never experienced a false positive with F-Secure. But every single time that AV-C does one of their rounds of testing, they must have specially crafted files that they throw at F-Secure (and the others) and F-Secure detects something.

False Positives are no big deal. They are blown way out of proportion. The reason they are promoted as a huge deal is that the end user lacks the knowledge to know what to do. Going back to Square 1: Security is not software. It is a process (that involves people and those people need to have the knowledge).

Instead security software publishers promote and perpetuate user ignorance, and snowball societies into never making "security through knowledgeable and proficient users" a priority.

One need not be a 50 year IT Pro to be proficient enough to handle most security issues.

The other side of the coin is that people are people, and they will unravel security no matter what to do what they want to do. That is why devices need to lock users out of being able to do almost all of what they can do today on a Windows system. Their systems need to be managed.

 

[Vitali Ortzi]

Never have any FP with Trend, AV-C are a bunch of Noobs.

Fact they have false positives in their test doesn't mean you have encountered the same files and they probably use fake cracks for the test (look at the test methodology for more accurate information about the test )


Maybe you specifically aren't using all kinds of cracks activators etc
Since you have good behavior but doesn't mean all users wouldn't and the results are important to understand how much you can get impacted by false positives
(Low false positives means it's probably not too aggressive again piracy and those who use only popular safe software can use the most aggressive false positives avs )

 

[Vitali Ortzi]

Never have any FP with Trend, AV-C are a bunch of Noobs.

Btw with my experience the test results of false positives
The ones with least false positives align close to my experience with piracy (eset, Kaspersky are my recommendation for piracy users based on security / false positive balance)

 

[bazang]

@Jonny Quest

Confirmation F-Secure is switching-out its own technologies for Avira's EPP = Endpoint Protection Platform: