Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg Full Testimony Before U.S. Senate

[cruelsister]

Forgetting about Zucky for a bit, what always amazed me was that some are willing to make public their dating status, their favorite Restaurants, their friends, their hopes and dreams, etc. for the ENTIRE WORLD to view.

Personally I find this to be anathema, but a few Billion people disagree with me...

 

[ForgottenSeer 69673]

I did not watch it but did listen to about an hour of it on the radio. got bored and turned it off.
The most I have ever watched of him was just after his spat with musk over AI. He was streaming a back yard BBQ while randomly talking to Facebook users. Every once in the while his pregnant wife would walk in. And so he sat there for like 5 or 6 hours smoking brisket and ribs. I think he might have even drank a few beers. You don't see many billionaires doing that sort of thing and you wouldn't even think they would have the time. I do have a feeling Zuck doesn't even know all of what goes on in his company.

 

[L0ckJaw]

 

[ForgottenSeer 58943]

Forgetting about Zucky for a bit, what always amazed me was that some are willing to make public their dating status, their favorite Restaurants, their friends, their hopes and dreams, etc. for the ENTIRE WORLD to view.

Personally I find this to be anathema, but a few Billion people disagree with me...

I like to share where I eat sometimes, and review burgers. But I do it under assumed names using a VPN. I have a Yelp Elite Account with an assumed identity so convincing I go to Yelp Elite Conventions and they think I am 'Bud Edwards' or whatever.

My real persona is only known by a very select few and only if I permit it. Google searches of my actual name reveal nothing. I'm largely invisible to all but the most persistent and cunning actors, and even to those, my data is so limited to almost be useless and often masked within millions of bits of totally useless data. That includes Facebook. I do have an account. I have it in my real name. But it has no useful data on it. My chat logs are usually "Hey, get on Signal, I got a question" or something.

But yes, it is stunning the level of information people willingly reveal.. WHY? It must satiate some innate desire in some people to be 'known and famous' or even just 'known and seen'.. I don't get it, and never will.

 

[Deletedmessiah]

Whatever he may have done, I do have respect for Zuckerberg. He fits the selfish, screw everyone ideology that I've developed this past few years. When life keeps screwing you too much continuously and never seem to stop, you develop this sort of attitude I guess. Pessimism is a bad thing but I can't help it.

 

[SumTingWong]

Or he is simply nervous which is a totally understandable human behavior to have in that situation.

Not everywhere on this planet and not for everything! For example an offered sip/cup of water on a airport anywhere in the world when your checked for drugs and you drink/sip normaly indicates you haven't swallowed any packages because eating or drinking could greatly risk breaking those packages.

Also nervous people or people in shock gets dehydrated faster and that could be counterproductive for the one that wants/need answers. He even sip long before he start talks but on some later questions it's cristal clear he lie as if his life depends on it and in a way it does as Facebook is his life.

Nervous for what purpose? If you go to the court today and you are nervous, that basically mean you are afraid you MIGHT get caught on what you did. If he is here to proves his points then there's nothing to get nervous about. It is the same thing when the police officer drive behind you. If you are start acting weird like sudden speeding or sudden slowing down for no reason then you might be suspicious for something.

 

[ForgottenSeer 58943]

If I was Zuckerberg I wouldn't be nervous. He has enough money to buy each person sitting up there.

Actually, if I was Zuckerberg I would have already sold facebook and walked away from dealing with idiots and nonsense for the rest of my life. I'm sure his kids would survive on 100 billion vs 200 billion so who cares. Buy a castle in Scotland or something and play Fortnite all day long. The world doesn't need saving and politics should be WAY WAY below a guy like this..

Dealing with day to day nonsense and being that wealthy is some sort of personality flaw or mental illness IMO.

 

[Azure]

Nervous for what purpose? If you go to the court today and you are nervous, that basically mean you are afraid you MIGHT get caught on what you did. If he is here to proves his points then there's nothing to get nervous about. It is the same thing when the police officer drive behind you. If you are start acting weird like sudden speeding or sudden slowing down for no reason then you might be suspicious for something.

Not really. Not all feelings of nervousness are derived from guilt.

 

[CharlieBrown]

Forgetting about Zucky for a bit, what always amazed me was that some are willing to make public their dating status, their favorite Restaurants, their friends, their hopes and dreams, etc. for the ENTIRE WORLD to view.

Personally I find this to be anathema, but a few Billion people disagree with me...

That's something I've never really understood. But then I think many that share everything about themselves use fakebook as their own reality show of sorts. A zillion selfies or showing what they claim to have and how perfect their life is. One can understand kids acting out without thinking and the relative inmaturity but the number of adolescent-adults on Facebook is also staggering. I only joined because so many of the media outlets stopped their comment sections and used Facebook for all commenting on articles. So I don't really use it like most people do. It's interesting too, as people without a detailed profile are often called trolls by those sharing every detail of their life. This is the common retort when they disagree with you. Even after FB passwords have been hacked and people have had their pics stolen folks still put photos of themselves and their children on this data farming platform. And just because they have it set to private doesn't mean it's secure. Spouting off too much on FB and other social media has also gotten people in trouble with their employers. One can see why there are millions of accounts with false names given the policies of this company.

 

[SumTingWong]

Not really. Not all feelings of nervousness are derived from guilt.

In this case it is.

 

[CharlieBrown]

In this case it is.

I doubt he has any real guilt about any of this but he may have been nervous about how he was going to answer some of their more pointed questions. Perhaps he was wondering just how well he could con them with meaningless roundabout sentences and fake caring and concern. For good measure he could always throw in a mini panic attack.

 

[Deleted member 65228]

Nervous for what purpose? If you go to the court today and you are nervous, that basically mean you are afraid you MIGHT get caught on what you did. If he is here to proves his points then there's nothing to get nervous about. It is the same thing when the police officer drive behind you. If you are start acting weird like sudden speeding or sudden slowing down for no reason then you might be suspicious for something.

There's many reasons which could cause nervousness and feeling nervous is completely natural - everyone gets nervous sometimes and everyone is different - different scenarios can affect people differently and mental health which may be undiagnosed can also cause effects of anxiety/nervousness.

For starters, given the location he was at and who he was talking to, that could be enough to make a majority quite nervous even if they the best intentions with their services.

Secondly, he might not be as confident of a speaker that people may assume (just because he is rich and started Facebook which is incredibly well-known doesn't mean he automatically has amazing language/communication skills in a situation like that).

There can be 1000 reasons someone can become nervous and those reasons aren't a duplicate of "guilt".

As for the police officer part, I'm sure a police officer driving behind someone can make many feel more nervous, even if they were doing nothing wrong. Rogue police officers do exist and many people have had bad experiences with the police when they've been in the right and haven't broken any laws. Maybe not for you, but how do you know that your own feelings in different situations apply for every other human being in the world?

I'm in no way defending Mark Zuckerberg as an individual or anything he may have done though - I don't even like Facebook.

 

[ForgottenSeer 69673]

I thought I heard once he is going to give away most of his fortune. there will always be jealousy over people that start a business out of their dorm room and become billionaires out of it. Gates started his computer business out of his garage and had dropped out of collage. These people can be compared to King Solomon.

 

[SumTingWong]

I thought I heard once he is going to give away most of his fortune. there will always be jealousy over people that start a business out of their dorm room and become billionaires out of it. Gates started his computer business out of his garage and had dropped out of collage. These people can be compared to King Solomon.

Experience and knowledge. No one cares about college degree paper with your name printed if you have no experience in the field.

 

[upnorth]

Part 2 ( Day 2 ) but this time it's for the Energy and Commerce Committee.



I'm out of popcorn. 5 hour again and talk starts at 13:40.

 

[ForgottenSeer 58943]

So.....

I downloaded my facebook data and 'had a look'.. Since I practice great hygiene with my account I wasn't expecting much.. I was wrong... Facebook is harvesting so much data outside of facebook that they created a pretty amazing stealth profile on me, including places I vacation, work, home, that burger I had a few nights ago.. It was shocking, and extensive to the level that makes me feel like Zuckerberg is a monster and has created a monster.

Starting today and over the next 48 hours I am deleting all accounts, including facebook, linkedin, etc. Then utilizing a VM+VPN and re-creating them under assumed names. When I visit FB under my assumed name it will be in a VM that gets flushed over a VPN tagged to the location of that particular fake identity.

Any accounts I don't feel like re-creating under assumed identities with sufficient protection will not be recreated and will simply go away. I'm in the process of archiving and encrypting all of my data and tossing it onto my encrypted cloud drive. I'm also going through and closing all extraneous email accounts and other junk not needed anymore.

I'm going to create a guide for friends and family on how to do the same thing if they choose to do it to make the process easier for them. Zuckerberg is a pathetic little worm and if I caught him a dark alley I'd make sure he knew how I felt. Instead of creating a friendly, fun, easy to use tool for everyone to interact he's created a MONSTER. The only hope for facebook is if they turn all privacy back over to each person, and if not it needs to be regulated.

I can only imagine the facebook data files of people that don't practice good hygiene!

 

[Deleted member 65228]

I downloaded my facebook data and 'had a look'.. Since I practice great hygiene with my account I wasn't expecting much.. I was wrong

I find it super strange how Facebook has little to nothing on me at all, because my account dates back from 2010 and I was not even practicing good hygiene back then. I only started practicing good hygiene a few years ago.

The take-out data for me has an incorrect name (despite my profile having the correct name), inexistent location data (as in the locations do not actually exist in the world), an outdated mobile phone number by at-least 3 years, no calls or SMS logs from my phone (ever) and only one photo which is really old now by a few years. That, and of course Facebook messages which is obvious.

I've re-completed the take-out data several times, same result each time except for the Facebook messages.

Maybe I got luckier than others regarding data collection?

 

[Deleted member 178]

@ForgottenSeer 58943 I wondered why you didn't use a fake name in the first place? would save you the hassle.

 

[ForgottenSeer 58943]

@ForgottenSeer 58943 I wondered why you didn't use a fake name in the first place? would save you the hassle.

I use fake names everywhere, except a select few sites.. It's hard to send a friend request from 'Bud Edwards', when my friends don't know who that is, and I would have to use alternate channels to communicate, but until FB there were few alternate channels to initially link up to long lost friends.

Now it is much easier. I can tell them 'If you get a friend request from Bud Edwards, it's me, accept it'. Linkedin was setup years ago to get a qualified, high level position as the recruiter REQUIRED Linked In. Since I no longer need to do that, I've already deleted Linkedin today after downloading my data.

Just some housekeeping is in order for a few accounts, everything else is anonymous/assumed names.

 

[ForgottenSeer 58943]

The take-out data for me has an incorrect name (despite my profile having the correct name), inexistent location data (as in the locations do not actually exist in the world), an outdated mobile phone number by at-least 3 years, no calls or SMS logs from my phone (ever) and only one photo which is really old now by a few years. That, and of course Facebook messages which is obvious.

I've re-completed the take-out data several times, same result each time except for the Facebook messages.

Maybe I got luckier than others regarding data collection?

I never once installed FB app on my phone and I disable the pre-installed background FB crap. So fortunately that data is all empty on me.