Hot Take Firefox browser has started shipping Brave's adblock-rust engine

[Parkinsond]

@Marko :) Thanks for the video

@Sampei.Nihira CEO mentioned open source code and filterlists, so my guess they first focus on including it, before optimizing the code and filter (storage) for Firefox, would smart of Firefox to use open source Rust-adblock engine and apply optimizations to outperform Chrome!

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I have read on Reddit some Mozilla staff stating they will only adopt the trackers list, not the full ad blocker.

 

[Marko :)]

I have read on Reddit some Mozilla staff stating they will only adopt the trackers list, not the full ad blocker.

CEO said they ad blocker is coming in the video. Even mentioned EasyList.

 

[Sampei.Nihira]

@Marko :) Thanks for the video

@Sampei.Nihira CEO mentioned open source code and filterlists, so my guess they first focus on including it, before optimizing the code and filter (storage) for Firefox, would smart of Firefox to use open source Rust-adblock engine and apply optimizations to outperform Chrome!

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I don't have much hope.
Considering that on my PC, Chrome outperforms Firefox by 58% in the Speedometer 3.1 test.
And my tests show that, at least for now, adding at least three filter lists to Firefox's built-in ad blocker slows Firefox down even more.

 

[Divine_Barakah]

I think they are just testing this. No chance Firefox will ever come with ad blocker built-in especially now when they themselves own an advertising company.

Whoa. It seems I missed the news, but anyway they can always whitlist the ads of their own and of their partners.

Brave does the same, right?

Waterfox ships with Brave shields too, but they whitlist the ads and trackers of their partners by default, but it takes one toggle to turn that off.

While I do not like this behaviour, but from a business point of view it does make sense.

 

[Divine_Barakah]

I don't have much hope.
Considering that on my PC, Chrome outperforms Firefox by 58% in the Speedometer 3.1 test.
And my tests show that, at least for now, adding at least three filter lists to Firefox's built-in ad blocker slows Firefox down even more.

I believe this is not a problem on FF's part? Since the majority is using Chromium-based broesers, devs do optimise their websites for it.

 

[Marko :)]

Whoa. It seems I missed the news, but anyway they can always whitlist the ads of their own and of their partners.

They could. But that would be hypocrisy. And I don't think this would go along well with the community. Beside, Mozilla's advertising company isn't that big player.

Brave does the same, right?

No, not that I know of. I don't know their business now, but I do remember they did replace third-party ads on the websites with their own, robbing owners of the websites of the income. Then when I briefly tried the program, I only got ads as a form of browser notification. I don't know what types of ads they run now.

Waterfox ships with Brave shields too, but they whitlist the ads and trackers of their partners by default, but it takes one toggle to turn that off.

If I'm not mistaken, they all use (including AdGuard and ABP) Acceptable Ads filter made by ABP owners, Eyeo.

While I do not like this behaviour, but from a business point of view it does make sense.

According to acceptableads.com, only big players pay a fee to be included in the filter and they have to adhere to standards set by them. For medium and small entities, it's free.

 

[Parkinsond]

I have shield turned off for MT; should I turn it on?

 

[Marko :)]

I have shield turned off for MT; should I turn it on?

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MT doesn't have any ads so it doesn't really matter.

 

[stonjean633]

I wasn't aware of this that's why I abandoned FF.
How's the adblocker? Same results with Brave?
I might reconsider giving FF another go.

 

[Marko :)]

I wasn't aware of this that's why I abandoned FF.
How's the adblocker? Same results with Brave?
I might reconsider giving FF another go.

Why did you abandon Firefox exactly?

How's the adblocker? Same results with Brave?

uBlock Origin is superior to Brave Shields because it gives you as a user total control. Combine it with Firefox ETP and you essentially have Brave Shields, but with more control.

 

[lokamoka820]

I've gone back to using Firefox browser today, and so far it's good.

@Marko :) Are you using Betterfox's user.js file or just modifying the about:config settings you want from the file?

 

[Parkinsond]

I've gone back to using Firefox browser today, and so far it's good.

@Marko :) Are you using Betterfox's user.js file or just modifying the about:config settings you want from the file?

May you try to open this news website Cairo24 in Firefox and tell me the arrows are displayed or replaced by words "backwards" and "forwards"?
I had this issue while trying Zen.

 

[lokamoka820]

May you try to open this news website Cairo24 in Firefox and tell me the arrows are displayed or replaced by words "backwards" and "forwards"?
I had this issue while trying Zen.

Which arrows are you referring to?
If you're referring to the carousel arrows, they're visible; however, if you're referring to the pager at the bottom of the page, they're both boxes devoid of any text or arrows.

 

[Marko :)]

I've gone back to using Firefox browser today, and so far it's good.

@Marko :) Are you using Betterfox's user.js file or just modifying the about:config settings you want from the file?

Nope, I changed just few entries. Here's my user.js:

user_pref("browser.compactmode.show", true);
user_pref("browser.translations.enable", false);
user_pref("urlclassifier.trackingSkipURLs", "https://www.facebook.com/*,https://connect.facebook.net/*,https://*.fbcdn.net/*,https://www.instagram.com/*,https://platform.twitter.com/*,https://*.twimg.com/*,https://www.tiktok.com/embed*,https://v16-webapp-prime.tiktok.com/*,https://c.brid.tv/*,https://*.reddit.com/*,https://www.redditstatic.com/*,https://*.vk.com/*,https://*.doubleverify.com/*");
user_pref("urlclassifier.features.socialtracking.skipURLs", "https://www.facebook.com/*,https://connect.facebook.net/*,https://*.fbcdn.net/*,https://www.instagram.com/*,https://platform.twitter.com/*,https://*.twimg.com/*");
user_pref("browser.sessionstore.interval", "1800000");
user_pref("media.videocontrols.picture-in-picture.video-toggle.min-video-secs", "5");
user_pref("view_source.wrap_long_lines", true);

Never used any custom user.js beside mine.

May you try to open this news website Cairo24 in Firefox and tell me the arrows are displayed or replaced by words "backwards" and "forwards"?
I had this issue while trying Zen.

I'm not sure what you're talking about, but here's the screenshot of entire page.

 

[Parkinsond]

Nope, I changed just few entries. Here's my user.js:

user_pref("browser.compactmode.show", true);
user_pref("browser.translations.enable", false);
user_pref("urlclassifier.trackingSkipURLs", "https://www.facebook.com/*,https://connect.facebook.net/*,https://*.fbcdn.net/*,https://www.instagram.com/*,https://platform.twitter.com/*,https://*.twimg.com/*,https://www.tiktok.com/embed*,https://v16-webapp-prime.tiktok.com/*,https://c.brid.tv/*,https://*.reddit.com/*,https://www.redditstatic.com/*,https://*.vk.com/*,https://*.doubleverify.com/*");
user_pref("urlclassifier.features.socialtracking.skipURLs", "https://www.facebook.com/*,https://connect.facebook.net/*,https://*.fbcdn.net/*,https://www.instagram.com/*,https://platform.twitter.com/*,https://*.twimg.com/*");
user_pref("browser.sessionstore.interval", "1800000");
user_pref("media.videocontrols.picture-in-picture.video-toggle.min-video-secs", "5");
user_pref("view_source.wrap_long_lines", true);

Never used any custom user.js beside mine.

I'm not sure what you're talking about, but here's the screenshot of entire page.

Those two red arrows to navigate the main news were replaced words in Zen.

 

[Parkinsond]

If you're referring to the carousel arrows

Yes, those; they were not dispalyed in Zen; I thought it is an engine issue.

 

[lokamoka820]

Yes, those; they were not dispalyed in Zen; I thought it is an engine issue.

I was going to install Zen instead of Firefox, but it has been three days and hasn't updated to the most recent version, even though the developer said the new version would arrive in no more than 24 hours. As a result, I installed Firefox instead.

 

[Marko :)]

Yes, those; they were not dispalyed in Zen; I thought it is an engine issue.

Normally displays everything here in Firefox.

I was going to install Zen instead of Firefox, but it has been three days and hasn't updated to the most recent version, even though the developer said the new version would arrive in no more than 24 hours. As a result, I installed Firefox instead.

I refrain from using less popular forks of browsers. Security updates are something I can't and won't compromise on. Beside, all of these forks are Firefox with changed bunch of about:config entries, nothing groundbreaking you couldn't do yourself.

 

[Parkinsond]

I was going to install Zen instead of Firefox, but it has been three days and hasn't updated to the most recent version, even though the developer said the new version would arrive in no more than 24 hours. As a result, I installed Firefox instead.

Customization aside, Firefox is more reliable.