Advice Request Getting CPU for Windows 11

[CyberTech]

Yes, but King said this at the end of his message:
""- Support Windows 11 by default, no settings changes required in the UEFI BIOS."

Listen, have you update the BiOS before?

 

[amirr]

Yes, in my Asus Z170-a, I did update once before.

 

[CyberTech]

Yes, in my Asus Z170-a, I did update once before.

Yea you update it like that then install Windows 11 it's easy for you

 

[CyberTech]

Also no, my current PC is back to 2016 and doesn't support:
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Yea beacuse you don't update the BIOS that's why i guess

 

[amirr]

Between
ASUS ROG STRIX B560-E GAMING WIFI LGA1200 11th Motherboard and ASUS ROG MAXIMUS XI FORMULA Z390 9TH AND 8TH GEN LGA1151 MAINBOARD
which one you suggest?

 

[Cleo]

Between
ASUS ROG STRIX B560-E GAMING WIFI LGA1200 11th Motherboard and ASUS ROG MAXIMUS XI FORMULA Z390 9TH AND 8TH GEN LGA1151 MAINBOARD
which one you suggest?

You'd get much better performance running the newest compatible CPU that you can afford on the STRIX.

 

[Cleo]

Will Asus NVidia GeForce gtx 1050 ti work with:
CPU:
Intel Core i5-9400F Coffee Lake 9th Gen Processor
Motherboard:
ASUS ROG MAXIMUS XI FORMULA Z390 9TH AND 8TH GEN LGA1151 MAINBOARD

?
Thanks.

The gtx 1050 ti should work in the system, however, unless you already own that motherboard then it looks like a bad match for your needs.
It will tie you to Coffee Lake chips and its designed for high end gaming.
Its big feature is that it has 3x16PCIe slots with sli/crossfire in mind.
Nobody does sli/crossfire anymore so its a waste of money.
Go with the STRIX that you have mentioned (iirc ASUS ROG STRIX B560-E GAMING WIFI).
The STRIX will take the newer (better) CPU's and has WIFI6 and a 2.5Gbps ethernet port but most importantly it officially supports faster memory which is where you will get your best graphics improvements if you use the integrated graphics of the 11900K.
Having said that, almost any GPU you find at the dump will beat the iGPU performance of a maxed out 11900K. A 1030 with 2GB of old DDR4 will likely beat it.
My niece had an i9-9900KS (the Coffee Lake flagship) running as an iGPU and adding a GTX 1030 to her system was a massive upgrade to her experience.

 

[amirr]

@Cleo Thanks a lot. I changed my mind and after talking to a friend, I will get these:

CPU:
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X Box

Motherboard:
ASUS TUF Gaming B550-Plus

RAM:
G.SKILL Trident Z RGB 2×16GB 3466MHz CL16


PSU:
COOLER MASTER MWE 600 BRONZE V2 230V

HDD:
WESTERN DIGITAL BLUE 1TB SATA HDD

SSD:
SAMSUNG 980 M.2 NVMe Gen3x4 250GB

CPU Cooler:
DEEPCOOL GAMMAXX GTE RGB V2 Black

GPU:
My old one which is ASUS GeForce GTX 1050Ti.

 

[The_King]

Thanks a lot. I changed my mind and after talking to a friend, I will get these:

Your friend gave you excellent advice.

 

[Cleo]

@Cleo Thanks a lot. I changed my mind and after talking to a friend, I will get these:

CPU:
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X Box

Motherboard:
ASUS TUF Gaming B550-Plus

RAM:
G.SKILL Trident Z RGB 2×16GB 3466MHz CL16


PSU:
COOLER MASTER MWE 600 BRONZE V2 230V

HDD:
WESTERN DIGITAL BLUE 1TB SATA HDD

SSD:
SAMSUNG 980 M.2 NVMe Gen3x4 250GB

CPU Cooler:
DEEPCOOL GAMMAXX GTE RGB V2 Black

GPU:
My old one which is ASUS GeForce GTX 1050Ti.

Much better.

 

[amirr]

Thanks, he is wise friend.
He told me this:
My first question would be :
Why do you need a new PC ? I mean, the more you wait to buy a new one, the newer parts will exist (now or in the future), and you’ll get better performance in the end ; so why rush ? If this one still works, and suits your needs, there’s really no need to upgrade.
(Maybe it’s because of Windows 11 ?)
Just the same, if your screen still works and has no dead pixels, what benefits would a new screen bring you ?

If you still want to upgrade, then my question is :
What will you do with this new PC ?

Without knowing what you intend to do, I cannot give you a recommendation.

At a glance, your first parts list is way overpowered, and unbalanced ; there are also parts you really don’t need unless you do extreme overclocking (such as 4GHz RAM).
Your second parts list seems a bit old, 9th gen is 2 years old already, and there were security fixes built in 10th and 11th gen.

 

[SumTingWong]

Get a better psu. the psu you chose is garbage. i definitely not cheap out psu on build this like this.

 

[Cleo]

Get a better psu. the psu you chose is garbage. i definitely not cheap out psu on build this like this.

Is that the EU or non-EU model or both? Aris from Tom's Hardware gives it a fairly good thumbs up review. Its certainly good for the price, but yes, a higher rated and more efficient and expensive certified psu would be more future proof...

 

[The_King]

@amirr

G.SKILL Trident Z RGB 2×16GB 3466MHz CL16

I would recommend a RAM kit that is made for AMD motherboards and CPU's. Please check the exact model before you buy and check QVL.
It's not recommended to use RAM kits made for intel boards on AMD boards, although it will still work, you will not get the best performance out of the RAM kit.

TUF GAMING B550-PLUS｜Motherboards｜ASUS Global

TUF Gaming series distills essential elements of the latest AMD and Intel® platforms, and combines them with game-ready features and proven durability. Engineered with military-grade components, an upgraded power solution and a comprehensive set of cooling options, this motherboard delivers...

www.asus.com

I would go with a 3600Mhz. RAM Kit than a 3466mhz one. Even if you do not game, you will get better performance out of the CPU with a 3600Mhz, kit.

Spoiler: 3200 vs 3600

 

[eonline]

If it is only for Windows 11, a discrete system upgrade in my view would be the best option.and with your old video card you can make money to cover part of the costs, it occurs to me.

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gBXDGq

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3400G 3.7 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($288.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Slim CPU Cooler ($63.26 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450M DS3H V2 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($74.98 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($178.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 11 500 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($68.80 @ Amazon)
Total: $878.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-09-30 04:39 EDT-0400

 

[SeriousHoax]

Since only running Windows 11 is your main priority, you should probably get an AMD Ryzen 7 5700G, buy a decent not too fancy motherboard for it, use the usable items of your current setup and upgrade things that you feel like upgrading.
5700G will make your current GPU obsolete, so maybe try to sell that if possible. This should save you a lot of money, I think. 5700G is a very capable APU btw.

 

[eonline]

@amirr Did you finally decide on something? Don't forget to comment.

 

[amirr]

Yes, but my current budget is extremely low, and I think I cannot get an appropriate loan for getting a new PC. Sigh.
Here is the new revised list. And thanks again for asking.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X and cooler for it: Noctua NH-U12A

RAM:
Trident Z Neo DDR4-3600MHz CL18-22-22-42 1.35V 32GB (2x16GB)

Motherboard: TUF GAMING B550-PLUS
PSU: MWE 600 BRONZE - V2
SSD: samsung 980PRO M.2 2280 NVMe 250GB Gen4 x4 SSD
HDD:Western Digital WD Red Plus NAS 4TB 128MB Cache SATA III HDD


My current setup is:
Motherboard: ASUS Z170-A
CPU: Intel core i5-6600K CPU @ 3.50GHz, 3504 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
GPU: Nvidia Gforce GTX 1050Ti
RAM: 16GB DDR4 G.Skill

If I want to change my CPU, then I must change my motherboard as well, and also RAM and also SSD.

I might sell my car that I don't drive that much. My car's mileage is around 20.000 km.

 

[eonline]

You could reuse the current RAM and disks, just change the processor and the motherboard.

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JBz6Dc

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3200G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.00 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450M DS3H V2 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($69.98 @ Amazon)
Total: $298.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-10-04 06:04 EDT-0400

 

[The_King]

My current setup is:
Motherboard: ASUS Z170-A
CPU: Intel core i5-6600K CPU @ 3.50GHz, 3504 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
GPU: Nvidia Gforce GTX 1050Ti
RAM: 16GB DDR4 G.Skill

If I want to change my CPU, then I must change my motherboard as well, and also RAM and also SSD.

I might sell my car that I don't drive that much. My car's mileage is around 20.000 km.

Your Z170 supports up to 7th gen Intel. So you could just upgrade to a 7700k or another 7th gen CPU one which has hyper-threading and
stick with windows 10. This option will be far less costly even though windows 11 does not officially support 7th gen intel

Z170-A - Support

www.asus.com

Windows 11 is nothing more than a gimmick and IMHO just hot garbage. I would rather have a car than a PC that can run windows 11

I will change my recommendation to just updating your CPU only to a 7th Gen intel with hyper-threading and stick to windows 10.

I personally will be using window 10 till around 2025 even though my system can support 11.