Correct. Restoring a system needs to be done outside the system. But imaging one can always be done "hot."
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Creating a Windows partition backup from within Windows while Windows is still running and its own filesystem is in dynamic (modifiable) state? How? By shadow copy?
The only true backup is when complete filesystem is in static (not modifiable) state.
The only true backup is when complete filesystem is in static (not modifiable) state.
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No, you can run backups when Windows is running. As explained in this AI summary from Google.
Suppose the Windows build-in System Image Backup process is running and backing up the active Windows partition or disk (assume only one partition and disk). While the backup is running (being created and being written to external storage) you are meanwhile working on a Word doc and save the changes you made to disk.
Question is what Word doc is being written to the backup, the old version prior to last save or the just saved one?
Now instead of changing a Word doc yourself suppose Windows itself modifies data or system files on the disk, what will be on created backup the old or new data / files?
I'm just wondering.
Question is what Word doc is being written to the backup, the old version prior to last save or the just saved one?
Now instead of changing a Word doc yourself suppose Windows itself modifies data or system files on the disk, what will be on created backup the old or new data / files?
I'm just wondering.
I personally don't keep docs or any such files on C:\ which I image, so in my case the situation will never arise as all files are on a separate drive, added to which I never rely on a single image, imaging C:\ frequently & testing at least one image every week or so by restoring the image means I know its a perfect image (IF that should fail I know I have ones that haven't) - It probably does make sense before doing a critical image to reboot windows & run hasleo/macrium/whatever straight after booting, but as I can't remember the last time an image failed that's really just a precaution, which I don't always do as in real life as there is no need - What can happen in theory does not mean it will actually happen.
The term safer was used in an earlier comment, safer is a relative term, for me & IMO frequent backups which take 25 seconds for a full image (while making coffee) are safer than doing difficult to do imaging that is done rarely??
Edit: For what its's worth 'system restore' is something I haven't used for years & is disabled, so for me that does not come into the imaging situation either.
The term safer was used in an earlier comment, safer is a relative term, for me & IMO frequent backups which take 25 seconds for a full image (while making coffee) are safer than doing difficult to do imaging that is done rarely??
Edit: For what its's worth 'system restore' is something I haven't used for years & is disabled, so for me that does not come into the imaging situation either.
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All that is on the Pc the moment the backup starts.
All backup programs have the feature to check the made backup, because made live, there is a possibility something can go wrong. In PE mode, that is not likely, hence safer.
We are talking theori. In actuality, live backups are very reliable.
Does that mean that Windows has to make shadow copies of really everything first before the actual backup starts?
Where does Windows keep all the shadow copies of all files when the disk is nearly full?
It's a matter of personal taste how one likes to create a backup / image.
When creating a system backup after system shutdown one knows for sure that Windows has finished and shutdown all running tasks / processes / services / etc. properly and that all open system / data files are finalized and closed and the whole system is prepared to be rebooted again.
If you use the right third-party Backup/Restore tool which suits your needs than Backup/Restore after system shutdown (using boot media) is really a piece of cake and maybe even easier than using Windows build-in System Backup/Restore (which is an outdated Win7 feature which MS is likely to drop it).
When creating a system backup after system shutdown one knows for sure that Windows has finished and shutdown all running tasks / processes / services / etc. properly and that all open system / data files are finalized and closed and the whole system is prepared to be rebooted again.
If you use the right third-party Backup/Restore tool which suits your needs than Backup/Restore after system shutdown (using boot media) is really a piece of cake and maybe even easier than using Windows build-in System Backup/Restore (which is an outdated Win7 feature which MS is likely to drop it).
As mentioned in an earlier post, it takes a snapshot of the system and creates an image based on that.
Of course.
I just made a backup with Windows imaging feature, it did not backup live work in Notepad. Only that which was there before opening it. That should clear up your former question and example.
@Pico, just admit you don't know how VSS works. If that's the case then you really have no business talking about imaging programs for Windows, and there's nothing wrong with that. But to keep insisting and posting on something you are not knowledgeable of will lead others to an incorrect way of thinking. If you want to learn about that, I suggest opening an appropriate thread, and letting this one get back on track.
We all obviously have our own maybe different ways of doing images etc. My system has evolved over years & it works well for me otherwise I would change the system or adapt. I feel its pointless making further comments on this thread - However you back up at least do it !
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If you backup your system at all that makes you more competent than 98% of pc users out there. (Just don't let it go to your head like it sometimes does for me 
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I admit how it works : Volume Shadow Copy Service (VSS)
After VSS has created a snapshot applications are free to resume writing data to the disk...
After VSS has created a drive mirror the original volume continues to accept write I/O requests...
After VSS has created a snapshot applications are free to resume writing data to the disk...
After VSS has created a drive mirror the original volume continues to accept write I/O requests...
I've been creating Windows backups from live Windows sessions for years. I never had any problem at all. I never lost a single file.
Correct. It's been that way for ages now.
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