Thanks, I've had a look in security and will post info when I find it all. I found this site when desperately searching how to remove that progressive security protection, folowed instructions and was aamazed they worked well not that they worked but that I manages to do it. In the short time I've been here I've learned a bit Jack has kindly been putting me through my paces lol. he had me do an old timer scan and post the log which i did but then took the links back off because i was paranoid about having all that info about my PC on the net, probably harmless but I was worried. You'll all probably laugh at me for that.