Help Me Decide Internet Security: Comodo 10 VS Kaspersky 2017

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What is most secure? Comodo or Kaspersky?

  1. Kaspersky

    30 vote(s)
    62.5%
  2. Comodo

    14 vote(s)
    29.2%
  3. Other (Please explain what and why)

    4 vote(s)
    8.3%
  1. LukeNukesEm

    LukeNukesEm Level 5

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    #1 LukeNukesEm, Jan 26, 2017
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    Now I know there are a ton of kaspersky fanboys here (including myself) but I want to compare the 2 most secure suites (IMO). Kaspersky VS Comodo. I don't really care about signature protection, I'm more for features, behavior blocking, and firewalls. So excluding signature protecton, which would be the most secure? (Note I also have HMPA and VoodooShield, so any features equivalent to those don't matter to me).

    EDIT: Forgot to mention, please do not be biased.
     
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  2. Rengar

    Rengar Level 14

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    Comodo FW of course. The autosandbox is unigue and stops everything, trust me i know :)
     
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  3. pablozi

    pablozi Level 22
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    If you already use VS and HMPA I wouldn't go any step further and stay with them as whitelisting is much easier to maintain and more secure than any sandbox or bb.
    I don't know if you also really need a FW since built in Windows firewall is more than enough for home use.
    But it's your show :rolleyes:
     
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  4. tonibalas

    tonibalas Level 38
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    You can use KAV with CFW.
    This would be a great combo, you will take advantage the features of 2 great software;)
     
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  5. shmu26

    shmu26 Level 53

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    once you have voodooshield, you have default/deny already. So COMODO will not really add very much to your protection, unless you are really into tweaking your firewall rules, or you like to play with sandboxed apps.

    so in your case, Kaspersky will add more to your protection, because it is very strong in BB.
     
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  6. Lockdown

    Lockdown From AppGuard
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    If you exclude behavior blocking, then the autosandbox with the firewall set to block unknown applications will provide greater default security. Answer: COMODO
     
  7. AtlBo

    AtlBo Level 22

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    One advantage of some of the best protection suites is system protection. Aside from the anti-malware/anti-virus aspect, some of them do a great job looking after sensitive areas of Windows. This is helpful in regards to the performance of the PC long term. I don't know personally, but I imagine Kaspersky will provide excellent system protection. Comodo is bullet-proof against malware if the user follows the advice of prompts, and they are generally very good and apply the correct pressure. Not going to get system protection to speak of, though. HIPs helps with this, but Comodo's HIPs don't compare to the system-wide protection of even 360 Total Security...the only BB I can speak for at this point. Fairly sure Kaspersky will beat this and I think Emsisoft will surely beat this, too.

    If you want HIPs, you can add HIPs with ReHIPS or something. Not that Comodo isn't good. Looking under the hood, the program is even a dice clever. I admit this surprised me some. Comodo devs have done a good job of thinking things through in a number of meaningful ways. Beyond this though, Kaspersky gives a different flexibility that might be more valuable if you can only choose one, and if you have money to spend. This is close, and I thought after using Comodo Firewall for a few days that this version might be an alert for companies like Kaspersky. Not that they will lose anyone over Comodo, but what about 2 versions from now, when the settings are all understandable by anyone and linked conveninently.

    Kaspersky but Comodo is on the map for home use. Not sure where they are with their enterprise products.
     
  8. LukeNukesEm

    LukeNukesEm Level 5

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    My bad, ment signatures.
     
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  9. Lockdown

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    #9 Lockdown, Jan 26, 2017
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    If you remove signatures, then it is close. K has better behavior blocking, whereas C has its autosandboxing based upon file reputation. It has Viruscope too - which is similar to K's System Watcher. I think K's System Watcher is more capable than C's Viruscope.

    For behavior blocking to work, you have to execute the file - and hope the behavioral algorithms detect and prevent damage. K also applies restrictions to unknown\low reputation files by assigning them to Low and High Restricted. You can further tighten the policy restrictions manually for those groups. In short, K uses policy sandboxes.

    With autosandboxing, the file is executed in a virtual container. In C you can also tighten the restriction policies in the sandbox. So you have both a virtual and policy sandbox.

    Oh my... which is more robust ?

    Answer: virtual container (sandbox) gives COMODO and edge
     
  10. Zero Knowledge

    Zero Knowledge Level 5

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    Kaspersky. No competition. They have a track record in having the best detection rates in the industry. Great exploit prevention.

    Comodo is not a security company. Their main business is selling SSL certificates.They only release security software to pimp SSL cert sales.
     
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  11. TerrakionSmash

    TerrakionSmash Level 16

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    @Lockdown What about behavioral blocking to stop unknown behaviors of trusted programs?
     
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  12. TerrakionSmash

    TerrakionSmash Level 16

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    CF has a more convenient outbound firewall though but I agree that it wouldn't add much but the number of programs is still one integer more. CF's auto-sandboxing is really good though and I find it more convenient than VoodooShield Free.
     
  13. Lockdown

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    #13 Lockdown, Jan 27, 2017
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    That's the whole concept of trusted programs - over time their default behaviors have proven to be trustworthy. Generally, they aren't monitored. What and how they are monitored varies from product to product.

    However, more than a few Windows processes can be abused by malware - hence the terminology "vulnerable processes." Interpreters are a prime example. Emsisoft uses a command line parser as part of their behavior blocker (you'd have to ask Fabian Wosar for the nitty-gritty on it).

    Good programs to deal with vulnerable processes are software restriction policies, anti-executables, and HIPS. Using these you can disable, restrict and\or monitor vulnerable processes.

    For the high-risk, click-happy user group, processes like powershell, wscript, cscript, RegAsm, etc are a menace and should be disabled, monitored and run with restricted privileges. Actually, if you have no need of vulnerable processes, then they should simply be disabled.

    There's a few strategies to deal with it - each involving a certain set of inconveniences. Nothing too annoying. The minor inconvenience is well worth the much increased security.
     
  14. vivid

    vivid Level 5

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    You should also check (Comodo) Secure Shopping that's offered with CIS10. It's probably the best out there. They did a comparison on their forums with all the popular ones.
     
  15. Spawn

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    Sponsored by COMODO, or Independent?
     
  16. vivid

    vivid Level 5

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    It's a component that is offered with CIS at installation. (It is designed for CIS package.)
    Not third-party. (It's based on their enterprise product and it is offered for free.)
     
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  17. conceptualclarity

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    Involves a special shopping brower with no extensions?
     
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  18. vivid

    vivid Level 5

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    Not really. It's a secure environment where you can run any application and perform secure transactions. I've tested it for quite some time and it's very good.

    Comparison from Comodo forums (for users that are not members there; I think it was posted on MT.. not very sure):
    http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img922/9965/b4dj8Z.png
     
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  19. XhenEd

    XhenEd Level 27
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    In addition to @Lockdown's post, if you enable Trusted Applications Mode, Kaspersky creates two folders in the Application Control's Trusted list: Additionally Controlled, and Control created Programs. Based on TAM's documentation, I presume that all programs that are in these folders are monitored. These programs are not allowed to do things outside their designed operations. In this way, TAM acts similar to AppGuard's MemoryGuard. :)
     
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  20. LukeNukesEm

    LukeNukesEm Level 5

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    You must've not read the description haha. I am not looking for signature protection, I am looking for a more secure, complex setup.
     
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