techgeek88 said:
No, it's not "quite simple". I'm a very outspoken individual who sticks up for what he believes in. And I have a right to it. It's called "Freedom of Speech"...
Yes I have tried all of them. I don't feel like I have to list every AV Vendor in the book, I quite frankly don't have the time LOL. I was talking about the main ones I've seen clients have the most problems with. It's not like you are better than me or know more than me! ROFL. You can't tell me that I can't say it is the best. It's personal opinion. It's my OPINION, of course, but I have a right to it. Just like you do yours.
You seem like a KIS hater. If you don't like KIS, discussion about it, or people praising it - then don't read it or post on it. And certainly don't bash those who praise it. I don't post in the Norton subforum as I hate NIS. I stay out of it because I can say nothing positive about it and I don't want to hurt the feelings of Norton fanboys. I really dislike your comment there at the end where you say "it only takes one example blah blah blah and you probably would stick with KIS anyway". Well I'm not wrong. It's my opinion, and I have a right to it. I am posting in the Kaspersky subforum after all. It's not like I'm in the Norton forum. I have YEARS of experience with PC's. I WORK on PC's for a living. I'm not you average PC user. I'm a very advanced highly trained individual who is a computer expert.
If I feel like saying KIS is the best - I will certainly feel free to do so. If I say Chevy is better than Ford, I have a right to do so. I won't have any examples prove me wrong. Anyone who gets infected with KIS is using it wrong IMO. Oh - and as far as Comodo IS, I think it's horrible. Way too many notifications and alerts and IMO not very user friendly. Anyone who leaves KIS for CIS is making a huge mistake that I hope they will fully regret down the line. Just my opinion and experience. Just like some people going on about Comodo Cleaning Essentials and DACS. I don't agree with what Comodo is doing, I'm sorry. I think CIS is still better than NIS, but neither would be my pick. I'd rather go PC-less than to use either one to be honest. It's KIS or Avast for me. Those are the only two anti-malware solutions I personally trust and feel safe with IMO.
Just my opinion here.
I'm sorry if my post bothers you, but you aren't going to convince me otherwise. I really don't appreciate being talked down to like I'm a little kid. I'm an experienced professional.
First of all...maybe you should know that I like to annoy people and see how they respond. It helps me figure out a bit of their personality.
I have opinions...plenty of them, as I'm sure you do. My opinion is that CIS, as far as I've seen, works the best for me. There could always be something new that will work better, so I keep looking.
And I have a right to it. It's called "Freedom of Speech"...
I too often bring in the freedom of speech card (mostly at Comodo forums). This "right" allows you to state your opinions. It also allows others, like me, to state different ones...including thinking you are wrong.
Freedom of speech does not guarantee that what you say will be believed or accepted.
Yes I have tried all of them.
That is great...always useful to have some who has tried many different things around. Although saying that you have tried "all of them" is a bit bold - there could be some unknown security software of types besides AVs.
I don't feel like I have to list every AV Vendor in the book, I quite frankly don't have the time LOL. I was talking about the main ones I've seen clients have the most problems with.
I understand. I just didn't know much about you. I have read some people who claimed to know a lot about security, but hadn't heard about anything besides the major players (the ones that often have a trial OEM installed).
It's not like you are better than me or know more than me!
After all, you are older than me.
You can't tell me that I can't say it is the best. It's personal opinion.
I can't control what you say, and I have no right to. But I see no reason that I can't critique.
It looks like you are saying it is the best for everyone. Yet you don't know each person's needs. You are not in a position to judge what is best for all. You can claim to, of course, but I consider it a lie. Because all it takes is one person for whom KIS isn't the best, and your claim is invalidated (to me, and others who read both sides).
If you said it is the best for most people, I wouldn't argue the point as much. But the way you wrote it seems like you think it is the best for all.
Say there are 6 people. KIS is the best for 5 of them, but 1 is safer with and avast! + CIS D+. You can't say that CIS is the best (for all), since it wasnt for one.
You seem like a KIS hater. If you don't like KIS, discussion about it, or people praising it - then don't read it or post on it. And certainly don't bash those who praise it.
People often say things like this whenever one is critical of something they say (and I sometimes do to, but I try not to). They deduce that because I don't agree with their statements about something, that I hate that something.
I don't hate KIS. It works very well for you, a smart user. Thousands of others use it, and (probably) stay safe. I don't know much about it, so I don't have many opinions on it. I do have a resistance to AVs, unless the suite includes something effective besides them.
And discussion about it is fine - I'm even discussing it.
I don't post in the Norton subforum as I hate NIS. I stay out of it because I can say nothing positive about it and I don't want to hurt the feelings of Norton fanboys.
I wouldn't agree with joining just to spew hate messages (though I bet the fanboys would rise with righteous anger and ban me instead of getting hurt). But I see no problem if you point out problems...after all, problems should be fixed.
I really dislike your comment there at the end where you say "it only takes one example blah blah blah and you probably would stick with KIS anyway".
I thought you might. But I'll still stick with it. I don't have much of a problem with it as when you tried to tell us what was best for all, since you are just speaking for yourself. As I said, you can't cover every product. You may have tested or read enough about all the well known ones, but some unknown software could slip through. What if something better, for you, was out "there"? If your opinions are honest, when you find that something works better for you, you'll revise your claim.
I just have trouble with those types of statements. All it takes is one example to invalidate them.
It is usually best to leave room for error with them, and just say something like: "It works the best for me out of the many products I've tried." I can't fault that.
It's my opinion, and I have a right to it. I am posting in the Kaspersky subforum after all. It's not like I'm in the Norton forum. I have YEARS of experience with PC's. I WORK on PC's for a living. I'm not you average PC user. I'm a very advanced highly trained individual who is a computer expert.
Anyone can claim to be an expert. That doesn't clear anything up for me, and I didn't know the extent of your knowledge.
If I feel like saying KIS is the best - I will certainly feel free to do so. If I say Chevy is better than Ford, I have a right to do so. I won't have any examples prove me wrong.
Sure... I say that CIS is the best for me out of everything that I've tried (or read about). And I am free to say that here.
Anyone is free to say things, it is only the truth which is more narrow. Anyone can say the earth is flat and the cow jumps over the moon and swims in the sun every Tuesday. That does not mean that it is true.
You have your experience to back up your claims that KIS is best. However, your experience really only applies to you. You can't speak for me and thousands of others who don't like KIS.
"I won't have any examples prove me wrong." That is the kind of stubborness I was mentioning here:
I really dislike your comment there at the end where you say "it only takes one example blah blah blah and you probably would stick with KIS anyway".
It takes a lot to make people change. They won't always accept something better, just because they previously thought something else was the best.
Oh - and as far as Comodo IS, I think it's horrible. Way too many notifications and alerts and IMO not very user friendly. Anyone who leaves KIS for CIS is making a huge mistake that I hope they will fully regret down the line. Just my opinion and experience.
Fine for you. I personally like having control over my computer, and CIS gives me that control. I don't want some AV or BB deciding for me.
Many others agree with me, especially on the Comodo forums.
"...I hope they will fully regret..."
That is a nasty comment. You are hoping that someone regrets their choice and has problems, just because you like KIS better?
Just like some people going on about Comodo Cleaning Essentials and DACS. I don't agree with what Comodo is doing, I'm sorry. I think CIS is still better than NIS, but neither would be my pick. I'd rather go PC-less than to use either one to be honest. It's KIS or Avast for me. Those are the only two anti-malware solutions I personally trust and feel safe with IMO.
Fine with me. You can disapprove of CIS if you want. While I wonder why the alerts bother you (since many professional/experts like control), I don't try and censor beliefs.
Just my opinion here.
I'm sorry if my post bothers you, but you aren't going to convince me otherwise. I really don't appreciate being talked down to like I'm a little kid. I'm an experienced professional.
It is sad when people become so entrenched in their opinions that they say no matter what you say, nothing will convenience me to chance. Some people call it stubborness.
I don't mean to talk down to you. But that is a problem when you go around saying you are a professional expert (or whatever) - it doesn't mean much to others (since anyone can claim to be an expert), and it increases your pride. That leads to you thinking some statements are below you.
I know more than many "experts," yet I don't want to say I am one. I like this Bible verse:
Proverbs 12:15 said:
The way of fools seems right to them, but the wise listen to advice.
I'm not saying you are a fool, of course, but there is always more to learn.
