Advice Request Kaspersky virus protection – BSI warns against the use of products

[amirr]

I read the first link, I personally do not care and will keep using KIS

Kaspersky-Virenschutz - BSI warnt vor dem Einsatz der Produkte - Deskmodder.de

German Cyber Guard BSI warns now against the use of Kaspersky antivirus products

[German]Can antivirus products from the Russian based company Kaspersky be used in companies and government agencies without risk? After Russia's invasion of Ukraine, this question has becomehot. After hesitating for some time, the German Federal Office for Information Security (BSI) has now...

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[Moonhorse]

Kaspersky is totally fine to use still, nothing has changed.. and nothing will

 

[Szellem]

I read the first link, I personally do not care and will keep using KIS

Kaspersky-Virenschutz - BSI warnt vor dem Einsatz der Produkte - Deskmodder.de

German Cyber Guard BSI warns now against the use of Kaspersky antivirus products

[German]Can antivirus products from the Russian based company Kaspersky be used in companies and government agencies without risk? After Russia's invasion of Ukraine, this question has becomehot. After hesitating for some time, the German Federal Office for Information Security (BSI) has now...

borncity.com

Bullshit!It’s a typical case of wanting to ruin a company. Unnecessarily!!!

 

[RoboMan]

BREAKING: ONU suggests restrain from Russian petroleum and gas since it may contain tracking chips dissolved in the air to spy on you too!!

 

[amirr]

Kaspersky is totally fine to use still, nothing has changed.. and nothing will

I agree.

 

[Freki123]

For me the german text reads: Kaspersky could be forced to do shady stuff against their will.
I wouldn't see the fault at Kaspersky here

 

[ExecutiveOrder]

Also just discussed here since 4 hours ago (Auto Translated):

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One member thinks BSI tends to share "fearmongering".
Link in the screenshot: https://support.kaspersky.com/faq/2022hotline
(This link has some answers for something like "Is Kaspersky could be forced against their will?" that emerges from the concern of the current situation).


If this will end up in the implementation of a boycott widely on the German side, Kaspersky will lose a lot of its user bases and revenue but they still say "Kaspersky’s business operations remain stable" in the FAQs link.
Kaspersky has a total user of 400 million. By looking at usage by the country for most common and widely used processes in various versions of Windows:
Among them, up to 48 million are from Germany and up to 60 million are from Russia. Not far from "Almost 80% of Kaspersky’s operations are international".

 

[Freki123]

Executives link didn't work for me but I found a English FAQ version that answers the questions (e.g government, trust) like he said.

Frequently Asked Questions on Kaspersky business, solutions and services

Frequently Asked Questions on Kaspersky business, solutions and services

support.kaspersky.com

 

[Shadowra]

In France too, the use of Kaspersky is not recommended...
They are especially afraid that the update servers and KSN are limited to Russia

 

[silversurfer]

I'm from Germany, and my opinion about BSI: most reports are meant as warnings only. In this case, no real prove that Kaspersky will be forced sending "all users data" to Russian Government... For German companies it's may a risk to keep K. installed but typical home users data are less interesting anyway

In general, the majority of people from Russia can't do anything to stop this War. Same for most Russian companies. Boycott all products from Russia doesn't help at all.
I believe it's more worth to donate some money for victims in Ukraine!

 

[SeriousHoax]

 

[RoboMan]

So many boycotts to Kaspersky from several governments... makes me feel like we're dealing with some though and solid protection not even government agencies can bypass and so they try to banish it and avoiding people from using it...

 

[ForgottenSeer 92963]

Kaspersky is totally fine to use still, nothing has changed.. and nothing will

Eugene disagrees with you: "Biggest change in whole history of our products..."

 

[Antig]

Usually they hire some sort of 'experts' to push commercially delinquent practices in order to convince people. The degree of blindness of the zombies is simply incredible. Five hours a day of TV ,a few pills or jabs, and they can believe or NOT SEE anything.....
an apocryphal bible said: in those days one will ask another: have you seen the truth? and the answer will be : NO-

 

[ExecutiveOrder]

Executives link didn't work for me but I found a English FAQ version that answers the questions (e.g government, trust) like he said.

Frequently Asked Questions on Kaspersky business, solutions and services

Frequently Asked Questions on Kaspersky business, solutions and services

support.kaspersky.com

Oh right, I've wrongly added a hyperlink to the google translate link of the German version, copy-pasting the link will do. Can't edit it anymore, thanks for the additional direct link to english site.

 

[ExecutiveOrder]

Eugene disagrees with you: "Biggest change in whole history of our products..."

That way, products literally change on a regular basis, right? Slow, fast, annually, etc., a business process.
Back then they 'suddenly' offer the free version and adds a 'premium' feature a year later, creating new products: Security Cloud outside the common 'AV, IS, TS' marketing which most vendors were offering (some at least changed the product name).

Doubt the reason the guy made "Kaspersky is totally fine to use still, nothing has changed.. and nothing will" as a single sentence is this kind of 'changes'.
Perhaps something like changes to accusation 5 years ago, now with comprehensive proofs of documents and investigations results, business changes rapidly, trust lost, international sales go downhill, etc.
We're discussing the particular warning from BSI. Just like silversurfer said, most reports are meant as warnings only, thus nothing really changes.

 

[Stelica]

Remember that Eugene, as some of you say friendly, was a representative of the infamous service KGB just like Vladimir Putin!

 

[ExecutiveOrder]

Remember that Eugen, as some of you say friendly, was a representative of the infamous service KGB just like Vladimir Putin!

I think it's better to post this directly to Eugene's Twitter perhaps?

Both worked for the Intelligence service, Putin was a KGB officer, Eugene was a software engineer for Soviet military intel. (GRU, the name wasn't published back then).
Another person to mention is someone like Alexander Litvinenko, also a former KGB officer (later FSB).
He was defected to the UK (later assassinated), while Kaspersky is doing multinational private business.
Life choice isn't it? Can't really say ex-KGB representative is all the same, especially if we compare them to Putin ("a thug, a murderer").

 

[Stelica]

I think it's better to post this directly to Eugene's Twitter perhaps?

Both worked for the Intelligence service, Putin was a KGB officer, Eugene was a software engineer for Soviet military intel. (GRU, the name wasn't published back then).
Another person to mention is someone like Alexander Litvinenko, also a former KGB officer (later FSB).
He was defected to the UK (later assassinated), while Kaspersky is doing multinational private business.
Life choice isn't it? Can't really say ex-KGB representative is all the same, especially if we compare them to Putin ("a thug, a murderer").

Maybe I was wrong he was in the GRU and not in the KGB, but what's the difference? Does the fact that he started a business means that his past will be washed?
From my point of view, these men, especially when they worked for dictatorial regimes, are undesirable!

 

[ExecutiveOrder]

Maybe I was wrong he was in the GRU and not in the KGB, but what's the difference? Does the fact that he started a business means that his past will be washed?
From my point of view, these men, especially when they worked for dictatorial regimes, are undesirable!

You're not wrong, he did graduate from The Technical Faculty of the KGB Higher School with a degree in mathematical engineering and computer technology, "linked" this way to KGB. Yes, I agree with you too that their past history will remain for everyone to know, but in my opinion, it's not like all of them intend to do a crime or something like that by working in an intelligence agency (or anything else ordinary like Police) just like the other countries also have (as a crucial part of the nation), yes it is undesirable, especially for those from "the others side", which is worth to take note.