Microsoft bans Offensive Language; Effective 1st May 2018

[Prorootect]

Aaron Satie
Aaron Satie

Who is to credit for Aaron Satie's wisdom?
The following quote is from one of my favourite Star Trek: The Next Generations episodes, The Drumhead (4x21); It is cited by Picard and attributed to the fictional Judge Aaron Satie:

With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.

Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie

According to memory-alpha (see link), Jeri Taylor is to be credited for writing of this episode. However, are these actually her words, or was she a) quoting somebody herself or b) was the episode co-written by an uncredited second person who contributed the quote?

Response:
I was looking for the same quote and could not find a reference in English. However, when I translated it into German, I found it. The quote is by French composer Alfred Éric Leslie Satie. Yes, the character name is probably a nod to him. No copyright infringement or plagiarism, since Msr. Satie passed away in 1925.
- answered Aug 5 '16 at 18:33
Manuela Langer

Freedom: Freedom - Wikiquote

 

[Deleted member 65228]

Anyway, all Microsoft is going to accomplish is unfair punishment and a loss of income. Why? It's unfair to ban X amount of people and let X amount of others get away with doing the same thing - they cannot ban everyone from using inappropriate language whether publicly or privately because most of their user base will do it, and it'd leave them with more or less no customers. People will just start to dislike Microsoft even more and those same people that will be banned will be the ones paying for stuff on the Xbox Live store and other areas, thus reducing income for them.

If they really want to do something about inappropriate language they should drop the ban hammer idea which was probably pitched by some grumpy employee who hates every other human in the world and is jealous because no one ever wanted to play with them on CoD and think of something better like Artificial Intelligence to remove inappropriate content from audio in real-time and replace it with either nothing, a beep, or an alternate cleaned version of the original audio. As for text-based, that's simple theoretically at-least, forums and websites do it all the time by replacing a list of bad words with other characters; sure someone could add spaces, dashes, etc to bypass it but still.

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[shmu26]

censoring and reporting people to the police will be, just like FB or youtube started, to stop "fake news". For example, I have Hitler photos on my FB, because he created many good things, but someone might say, that I propagate fascism.

Hitler did one very good thing: he killed himself. Stalin did not even do that.
I will not shed too many tears if people get censored for Hitler pics. Just my opinion. But this is one of the rare cases where my opinion coincides with that of the ruling class

 

[codswollip]

Aw, Snap!

 

[Deleted member 178]

Holy ***** beeeeep xxxxxxxx ********

oh it works already

 

[DeepWeb]

Xbox and Skype I understand but Office?

 

[Deleted member 65228]

There's hidden Skype emoticons for putting your middle finger up at someone, Santa Claus mooning without a blur and an angry man with swear censor words coming out his mouth.

 

[ForgottenSeer 69673]

Holy ***** beeeeep xxxxxxxx ********

oh it works already

yea but this didn't work yet. (!) or how about sound alike words like Sat Night Live use like cork soaker

 

[VHSMSDOS]

I am very strongly against what Microsoft is doing, and have already started boycotting Skype.

Of course i am against offensive language when it comes to anything that's public. So, for example, what they're doing is actually good regarding Xbox Live.

However, i think it is completely unacceptable to have such measures incorporated into a private service such as Skype. Because:

- First of all, it is utterly useless, as there are already easy ways to block or report a person should they bother you.

- Second, these are private person to person talks, and no companies have a right to tell me what i can or can't say privately.

- And last but not least, because that means that ultimately they are going to actively scan everyone private messages.

And there already article questioning these methods. How about lovers using harsh language or sending each others nudes ? In what right Microsoft or any other company could dictate what 2 persons can't do while communicating in private ?

Their new rules also applies to other Microsoft services such as Bing or Cortana, and as usual there "terms of use" are vague. What does it actually mean for the user ? That Microsoft can block you if you use harsh language or "insult" Cortana, which is a virtual assistant ? Or that people will receive a warning for searching crude content or porn on Bing ?

And of course it goes also to another practice that shouldn't even be tolerated, account deletion. Some will argue that a company has a right to do whatever they want with their products, but i disagree. This was fine a decade ago, but taking away a Microsoft or Google account as of today can have disastrous impact on someone's life. Of course i'm not saying that Microsoft shouldn't be able to delete accounts, as this would lead to abuse of their services. But i definitely think account deletion should be regulated by international rules or local governments. For example, if someone has a fight with some friends on Skype and gets reported several times, they should only lost access to Skype. Loosing access to their entire account would mean loosing their Xbox Live games, their documents, pictures and videos on OneDrive, their emails, contacts, agenda and this can have hard consequences. For example, it should be mandatory for these corporations, should they decide to delete an someone's account, to grant the owner at least a month of access to their data (cloud storage, emails, contacts, etc...) in order to retrieve what they need.

I was already shocked a while ago when i saw that Microsoft was prohibiting to store nudes on their OneDrive cloud storage. Because that means they are actively scanning everything that you store on what's supposed to be your personal online space, and that they think it is normal for them to dictate what you can and can't store. This is the equivalent in real life of renting a storage room and having it search regularly, and then receiving a call from the owner telling you that your storage has been locked and everything on it destroyed because they found a Playboy magazine on it while looking thru your stuff. And of course you should have known better, because it was wrote on page 153 of your contract that nudes weren't allowed...

 

[ZeroDay]

I am very strongly against what Microsoft is doing, and have already started boycotting Skype.

Of course i am against offensive language when it comes to anything that's public. So, for example, what they're doing is actually good regarding Xbox Live.

However, i think it is completely unacceptable to have such measures incorporated into a private service such as Skype. Because:

- First of all, it is utterly useless, as there are already easy ways to block or report a person should they bother you.

- Second, these are private person to person talks, and no companies have a right to tell me what i can or can't say privately.

- And last but not least, because that means that ultimately they are going to actively scan everyone private messages.

And there already article questioning these methods. How about lovers using harsh language or sending each others nudes ? In what right Microsoft or any other company could dictate what 2 persons can't do while communicating in private ?

Their new rules also applies to other Microsoft services such as Bing or Cortana, and as usual there "terms of use" are vague. What does it actually mean for the user ? That Microsoft can block you if you use harsh language or "insult" Cortana, which is a virtual assistant ? Or that people will receive a warning for searching crude content or porn on Bing ?

And of course it goes also to another practice that shouldn't even be tolerated, account deletion. Some will argue that a company has a right to do whatever they want with their products, but i disagree. This was fine a decade ago, but taking away a Microsoft or Google account as of today can have disastrous impact on someone's life. Of course i'm not saying that Microsoft shouldn't be able to delete accounts, as this would lead to abuse of their services. But i definitely think account deletion should be regulated by international rules or local governments. For example, if someone has a fight with some friends on Skype and gets reported several times, they should only lost access to Skype. Loosing access to their entire account would mean loosing their Xbox Live games, their documents, pictures and videos on OneDrive, their emails, contacts, agenda and this can have hard consequences. For example, it should be mandatory for these corporations, should they decide to delete an someone's account, to grant the owner at least a month of access to their data (cloud storage, emails, contacts, etc...) in order to retrieve what they need.

I was already shocked a while ago when i saw that Microsoft was prohibiting to store nudes on their OneDrive cloud storage. Because that means they are actively scanning everything that you store on what's supposed to be your personal online space, and that they think it is normal for them to dictate what you can and can't store. This is the equivalent in real life of renting a storage room and having it search regularly, and then receiving a call from the owner telling you that your storage has been locked and everything on it destroyed because they found a Playboy magazine on it while looking thru your stuff. And of course you should have known better, because it was wrote on page 153 of your contract that nudes weren't allowed...

 

[conceptualclarity]

I am very strongly against what Microsoft is doing, and have already started boycotting Skype.

Of course i am against offensive language when it comes to anything that's public. So, for example, what they're doing is actually good regarding Xbox Live.

However, i think it is completely unacceptable to have such measures incorporated into a private service such as Skype. Because:

- First of all, it is utterly useless, as there are already easy ways to block or report a person should they bother you.

- Second, these are private person to person talks, and no companies have a right to tell me what i can or can't say privately.

- And last but not least, because that means that ultimately they are going to actively scan everyone private messages.

And there already article questioning these methods. How about lovers using harsh language or sending each others nudes ? In what right Microsoft or any other company could dictate what 2 persons can't do while communicating in private ?

Their new rules also applies to other Microsoft services such as Bing or Cortana, and as usual there "terms of use" are vague. What does it actually mean for the user ? That Microsoft can block you if you use harsh language or "insult" Cortana, which is a virtual assistant ? Or that people will receive a warning for searching crude content or porn on Bing ?

And of course it goes also to another practice that shouldn't even be tolerated, account deletion. Some will argue that a company has a right to do whatever they want with their products, but i disagree. This was fine a decade ago, but taking away a Microsoft or Google account as of today can have disastrous impact on someone's life. Of course i'm not saying that Microsoft shouldn't be able to delete accounts, as this would lead to abuse of their services. But i definitely think account deletion should be regulated by international rules or local governments. For example, if someone has a fight with some friends on Skype and gets reported several times, they should only lost access to Skype. Loosing access to their entire account would mean loosing their Xbox Live games, their documents, pictures and videos on OneDrive, their emails, contacts, agenda and this can have hard consequences. For example, it should be mandatory for these corporations, should they decide to delete an someone's account, to grant the owner at least a month of access to their data (cloud storage, emails, contacts, etc...) in order to retrieve what they need.

I was already shocked a while ago when i saw that Microsoft was prohibiting to store nudes on their OneDrive cloud storage. Because that means they are actively scanning everything that you store on what's supposed to be your personal online space, and that they think it is normal for them to dictate what you can and can't store. This is the equivalent in real life of renting a storage room and having it search regularly, and then receiving a call from the owner telling you that your storage has been locked and everything on it destroyed because they found a Playboy magazine on it while looking thru your stuff. And of course you should have known better, because it was wrote on page 153 of your contract that nudes weren't allowed...

Magnificent. You have articulated very well why Microsoft is becoming a quite abusive company and needs to be catching hell from multitudes right now.

 

[Deleted member 178]

And of course you should have known better, because it was wrote on page 153 of your contract

This is the most important point, accept the contract or don't use the product, nothing different than real life situation.
If you complain but can't live without their product, it is your problem not theirs.
Personally i don't care about it, the day i will not be able to do what i used to do on Windows, i will just switch to another OS. No big deal to me.

 

[Deleted member 65228]

I was already shocked a while ago when i saw that Microsoft was prohibiting to store nudes on their OneDrive cloud storage.

Mine are safe and sound in a password protected archive but I left some teaser thumb-nail breadcrumbs outside the archive for surveillance

Spoiler

April Fools

 

[Windows Defender Shill]

This should go well.

 

[Deleted member 178]

Spoiler

April Fools

I dont believe you

 

[509322]

Pick a Source:

• Microsoft to ban 'offensive language' from Skype, Xbox, Office
• Microsoft can ban you for using offensive language
• https://gizmodo.com/microsoft-comes-for-the-trolls-with-offensive-language-1824107108
• Microsoft Can Now Ban Xbox Accounts for 'Offensive Language' - IGN *Updated statement*
  
• Microsoft Bans “Offensive Language” from Skype

Summary of Changes

• Updates

Full Microsoft Service Agreement (Updated)

• Microsoft Services Agreement

It is almost a certainty that if Microsoft attempts to become the ethics & morality police that people and governments the world over are going to push back hard against these changes to the User Agreements. Give it time. Cases will end up in the courts. And Microsoft will have to amend its User Agreements. Perhaps not worldwide, but there will be changes.

 

[Deleted member 178]

MS is testing people's reactions with such announcements.

1- massive complains around the world = they won't do it
2- few complains = they will do it.

 

[509322]

MS is testing people's reactions with such announcements.

1- massive complains around the world = they won't do it
2- few complains = they will do it.

Microsoft is like Facebook. They both do stuff that people and governments let them get away with. Big corporations get away with all types of stuff because people and governments let them get away with it. It is as simple as that. And by the same token, governments only get away with stuff that people let them get away with. Since "The People" have always been unable to work in unison, governments and corporations have always been able to get away with stuff. That is why the original framers of the U.S. Constitution included the 2nd Amendment right to bear arms - it was so that Average Joe could protect and take back his rights by force if necessary. That was the original intent of the 2nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. However, given that there are so many different competing factions who want different things today, and the whole gun shootings issue in America nowadays and calls for gun control, if you talk about protecting and taking back your political rights guaranteed by the 2nd Amendment - and you are serious about it and take actions that show you are serious about it like showing up at public protests - then the U.S. government will treat you like a domestic terrorist.They will put you on a domestic terrorist watch list and never leave you alone until the day you die. The FBI will dog you, your family and your friends all the remaining days of your life. So just protesting can cause you a lifetime of troubles in America. So much for your First Amendment rights. Research it. Read the first-hand reports.

 

[VHSMSDOS]

Microsoft is like Facebook. They both do stuff that people and governments let them get away with. Big corporations get away with all types of stuff because people and governments let them get away with it. It is as simple as that. And by the same token, governments only get away with stuff that people let them get away with. Since "The People" have always been unable to work in unison, governments and corporations have always been able to get away with stuff. That is why the original framers of the U.S. Constitution included the 2nd Amendment right to bear arms - it was so that Average Joe could protect and take back his rights by force if necessary. That was the original intent of the 2nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. However, given that there are so many different competing factions who want different things today, and the whole gun shootings issue in America nowadays and calls for gun control, if you talk about protecting and taking back your political rights guaranteed by the 2nd Amendment - and you are serious about it and take actions that show you are serious about it like showing up at public protests - then the U.S. government will treat you like a domestic terrorist.They will put you on a domestic terrorist watch list and never leave you alone until the day you die. The FBI will dog you, your family and your friends all the remaining days of your life. So just protesting can cause you a lifetime of troubles in America. So much for your First Amendment rights. Research it. Read the first-hand reports.

I'm sorry to ask, but are you actually serious is it an April's fool joke ? I honestly don't know as i'm not American and there's been a few jokes on this thread. But if you actually serious then this is really scary. The new 5 years of social media being mandatory for a Visa is spooky as well.

Of course there are people over here in Europe laughing at the USA, thinking they're better (which they are not, of course). Sure internet privacy is (more or less) better in the EU... for now. But they are fools to think that Europe will magically be spared. With tougher control of the internet by Russia, an almost complete internet censorship in China and very troubling laws in the US making internet freedom mostly an illusion, it's unfortunately only a matter of time before the EU is censored/manipulated/controlled either by their own governments and big corporations, or foreign ones...

Oh boy, do i miss the internet of the 90's

 

[ZeroDay]

Microsoft is like Facebook. They both do stuff that people and governments let them get away with. Big corporations get away with all types of stuff because people and governments let them get away with it. It is as simple as that. And by the same token, governments only get away with stuff that people let them get away with. Since "The People" have always been unable to work in unison, governments and corporations have always been able to get away with stuff. That is why the original framers of the U.S. Constitution included the 2nd Amendment right to bear arms - it was so that Average Joe could protect and take back his rights by force if necessary. That was the original intent of the 2nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. However, given that there are so many different competing factions who want different things today, and the whole gun shootings issue in America nowadays and calls for gun control, if you talk about protecting and taking back your political rights guaranteed by the 2nd Amendment - and you are serious about it and take actions that show you are serious about it like showing up at public protests - then the U.S. government will treat you like a domestic terrorist.They will put you on a domestic terrorist watch list and never leave you alone until the day you die. The FBI will dog you, your family and your friends all the remaining days of your life. So just protesting can cause you a lifetime of troubles in America. So much for your First Amendment rights. Research it. Read the first-hand reports.

It's pretty much the same here in the UK. Try to stand up for what you believe and protect your privacy and they just use the 'Terrorism Act' To monitor people. I'm surprised both the UK and the US haven't seen a civil war over the last decade, or at least a significant uprising on the people.