Hot Take Mozilla’s New Terms of Use are out of step with Firefox’s Direct Competition

Jonny Quest said:
That being said, uBlock Lite works very nicely on Chrome. Also, Brave with the shield set to Aggressively block works nicely, too. (as you posted in alternative solutions). So I get in general what misterman2100 is saying :)

Cheers.
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Exactly.

I still very much like Firefox. I have been using it since it was a newborn kit. (Remember the Noia theme?) I catch a lot of flak from using it at work because I have a had a staunch refusal to use Chrome. However, if Firefox wants to emulate others , well, they are taking away something special that sets themselves apart from others.

As much as I like futzing around and tweaking about:config, when it comes to the end of the day, I prefer touching grass and getting things done.
 
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SpiderWeb said:
I actually uninstalled. Disappointed by the privacy policy changes. Mozilla has been going rapidly downhill ever since the new CEO started with many key people leaving. I wonder what this spells for Tor Browser if they begin to make changes to the browser that make it difficult if not impossible to stay anonymous over Tor.
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Silber at Canonical = Amazon scandal. And now, Firefox has the privacy issue.

I wonder if there's a connection. :unsure:
 
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SpiderWeb said:
I actually uninstalled. Disappointed by the privacy policy changes. Mozilla has been going rapidly downhill ever since the new CEO started with many key people leaving. I wonder what this spells for Tor Browser if they begin to make changes to the browser that make it difficult if not impossible to stay anonymous over Tor.
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There are already tricks to unmask users and one method is obvious when you understand how much money is spent by governments to create tor bridges and some of these same governments don't really have free speech themselves and jail people for memes on social media cough cough uk/eu


There are ways to make all kinds of methods harder by adding another VPN like mullvad and putting Tor into a sandbox but if you're targeted they will find a way ask any terrorist organization how far the west can reach

But thankfully specifically unmasking Tor is only used against worst pf criminals (for now at least) so I would say it's safe for legitimate uses only
 
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SpiderWeb said:
I wonder what this spells for Tor Browser if they begin to make changes to the browser that make it difficult if not impossible to stay anonymous over Tor.
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That's possible only if there's malicious intent on Tor's dev side (or sabotage). Mozilla has no saying in Tor's anonymity (same goes for any stripped down fork - doing the same). Some "Forks (using the open source code of an app - to change it how they see fit)" - are lazy, but TOR is not dependent of any Mozilla resources (trully a stripped down version of FF - keeping only the core functions). And since it's Open Source - anyone can check the code (even you), thus - it's rather dificult for a project of this size - to sneak some malicious code or telemetry.
 
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There are already tricks to unmask users and one method is obvious when you understand how much money is spent by governments to create tor bridges and some of these same governments don't really have free speech themselves and jail people for memes on social media cough cough uk/eu


There are ways to make all kinds of methods harder by adding another VPN like mullvad and putting Tor into a sandbox but if you're targeted they will find a way ask any terrorist organization how far the west can reach

But thankfully specifically unmasking Tor is only used against worst pf criminals (for now at least) so I would say it's safe for legitimate uses only
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The exit nodes can be monitored (and probbally are - if not 100%). As for the "legitimate users part" - sure, if not indulging in criminal activities - no worries, but TOR shouln't be used for anything personal (logged in on some personal account) - since that beats the purpose (that's how you loose anonimity on TOR).
 
This change in TOS is disapointing - but so far... it's just words. Untill i see any acctions - i don't see any point in worrying (meaningleslly). I mean, if you tweak all the privacy settings - block even it's Ping (telemetry) - what is there's to worry about? It's a browser - not a social Media app, nor is it an add-based corporation like Google. Aftr all, it's open source and they did offer public documentation in this regard:

Ping Sender — Firefox Source Docs documentation

firefox-source-docs.mozilla.org firefox-source-docs.mozilla.org

“main” ping — Firefox Source Docs documentation

firefox-source-docs.mozilla.org firefox-source-docs.mozilla.org

Or did anyone found any suspicious activity with WireShark - monitoring the FF ports (or some other net/app monitoring app)? 🤔 I didn't, so i'm still waiting for some incriminatory evidence.
 
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anirbandutta01 said:
Already shifted to Brave from Firefox. Currently it's my primary browser.
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In my opinion, that's a bad move. I did the opposite. Firefox let's you customize everything you want, staring from UI to how the browser itself works. Firefox is really 100% customizable unlike any other Chromium browser out there.

Don't like Mozilla data policy? Just turn data collectio off and you're good.
Don't like Firefox looks the way it looks? Create your own userChrome.css and make your own design of the browser. Or use one of the hundreds already made designs.
Don't like how the browser works? User.js file is your best friend.

Brave and Chromium is stuck with predefined settings, flags and that's pretty much it.
 
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Marko :) said:
In my opinion, that's a bad move. I did the opposite. Firefox let's you customize everything you want, staring from UI to how the browser itself works. Firefox is really 100% customizable unlike any other Chromium browser out there.
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Vivaldi says that's not true.
 
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Marko :) said:
In my opinion, that's a bad move. I did the opposite. Firefox let's you customize everything you want, staring from UI to how the browser itself works. Firefox is really 100% customizable unlike any other Chromium browser out there.

Don't like Mozilla data policy? Just turn data collectio off and you're good.
Don't like Firefox looks the way it looks? Create your own userChrome.css and make your own design of the browser. Or use one of the hundreds already made designs.
Don't like how the browser works? User.js file is your best friend.

Brave and Chromium is stuck with predefined settings, flags and that's pretty much it.
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Dito. And there's not even a need to use an external text editor - for editing those, not need to touch those files either (unless you use one made by another - replacing default) - you can do all that within the browser, by typing: about:config in address bar. They save instantly - as soon as you press enter. You can also add some missing entries (if not present there). Clicking on Show Only Modified Preferences - will show you all the changes made (from Default) - even the option to revert to Default - if a setting was changed from about:config.

At times, Firefox shoots itself in the foot - by playing the same tricky game as Chrome - to get some extra points in "synthetic benchmarks". Rather stupid at times, like setting: nglayout.initialpaint.delay & nglayout.initialpaint.delay_in_oopif to 5 as Default setting. Which can be rather demanding for many systems or phones - using FF - thus, on heavy pages - one could notice a slight strugle to render the page at that speed. Around a decade ago - this setting was set to 250 - which shows more common sense as "default setting (for every macine using it)". So hey, if your system - was powerfull enough - you could lower the value and notice a faster loading page. But... 5, is just to low - formany machines. Thus, to get the best of both worlds - setiing it to more reasonble values like 50 or even 100 - can actually be an improvment "for most systems and the human eyes" - since now it has enough time to render the content "more smoothly" - avoiding a visable imput lag (as if it's chocking - before rendering the whole page "if a heavy page that is" ).
 
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anirbandutta01 said:
Already shifted to Brave from Firefox. Currently it's my primary browser.
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Use what you want and enjoy it, at least the top tier browsers that are maintained regularly, and allows for your AV's browser protection if it has it. There are even some on this forum who use Chrome, at least at the time when this thread was started :)
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Battle - What is your Favourite Browser?

What is your Favourite Browser? any why ?
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Marko :) said:
In my opinion, that's a bad move. I did the opposite. Firefox let's you customize everything you want, staring from UI to how the browser itself works. Firefox is really 100% customizable unlike any other Chromium browser out there.
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Fed up with Firefox slow performance ( slow browsing speed and lagging when opening website ). Internet speed is good and Brave/Chrome/Edge performed better. Brave sync is very well.
n8chavez said:
Vivaldi says that's not true.
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Brave sync is very well and browsing speed is better.
 
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Marko :) said:
While extremely customizable by Chromium standards, it's still nowhere near as customizable as Firefox and its forks.
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Vivaldi is a complete mess of settings suitable mostly for the extreme power user, not the average user. Wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.
 
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oldschool said:
Vivaldi is a complete mess of settings suitable mostly for the extreme power user, not the average user. Wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.
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While I respect Vivaldi's push for a new kind of customizable browser experience, it strikes me as still being somewhat buggy and inefficient software. I enjoy a sense of tighter optimization and don't mind a simpler approach.
 
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oldschool said:
Vivaldi is a complete mess of settings suitable mostly for the extreme power user, not the average user. Wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.
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I tried it once. Gave up after literally 5 minutes because it would take me 10 hours to set it up. There are so many settings and no explanations or examples what they do, so I was enabling/disabling settings to see whether I want them or not. Sometimes I didn't even notice the difference. And most of the times after changing settings, it required a restart.

The funniest bit is how they brag about being customizable. Yet, their Android app doesn't let you to remove useless bottom bar when you opt to use address bar at the top.
anirbandutta01 said:
Fed up with Firefox slow performance ( slow browsing speed and lagging when opening website ). Internet speed is good and Brave/Chrome/Edge performed better. Brave sync is very well.
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Hmm... that's weird. On my gaming laptop it actually runs faster than any other Chromium browser out there.

Glad that you found the browser that works for you well.
 
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