NSA Targets Tor Servers To ‘Spy’ On Users

[WinXPert]

After reading @Cowpipe 's last post, I think there's no need for antivirus on my PC since I can't stop NSA's spying anyways

if you want be "safe" use Linux , it is safe out of the box, of course they still can hack you after , but at least they will have to work a bit

I heard you. I'm on Linux

 

[Deleted member 178]

After reading @Cowpipe 's last post, I think there's no need for antivirus on my PC since I can't stop NSA's spying anyways

misconception from you; you don't need an AV for stopping the NSA, you need it to stop malwares.

if you aren't an terrorist or anti-gov virulent activist , you don't have to worry , NSA has better things to do than spying you.

how NSA works:

1- NSA implement several proxies/servers around the worlds mostly at the entrance/exit of ISP providers cables.
2- on those proxies/servers, they setup powerful filtering programs, traffic monitors and data analyzers
3- on those programs they register algorithm managing key words combinations and strings like "bin laden" , "revenge", "attack" , "bomb", "USA"
4- the algorithm then evaluate millions of input from the various internet users to specifically look for those strings.
5- once a string composed of several keywords is identified, the program notify the NSA operator for a suspicious activity from that user.
6- then the operator will use various methods to start analyzing the activity of that particular individual, to check his "threat potential"
7- if the user is known or reveal to be potentially dangerous , an deeper approach is taken, hacking the user computer, mail, watching his online activity in real time
8- if the user is solitary, the case is relayed to local agencies (FBI, etc...), if he is part of a group , the spying is extended until all participants are located and evidences stored.

 

[MrExplorer]

After reading @Cowpipe 's last post, I think there's no need for antivirus on my PC since I can't stop NSA's spying anyways

You need AV to protect yourself from malwares who want to steal your passwords & information, really NSA has a lot people to spy on so don't worry they will not get any thing to spy on you until you aren't a terrorist, as mentioned above by Unbra Polaris.

 

[Cowpipe]

After reading @Cowpipe 's last post, I think there's no need for antivirus on my PC since I can't stop NSA's spying anyways

Antivirus can offer you a certain level of protection. Not only against viruses but 'some' government tools. Take FinFisher for example, used by law enforcement to spy on you, can affect Linux, but some antivirus vendors have made it clear they will still detect this nasty software.

Of course there is little you can do about any form of hardware interception, how many of us regularly inspect the integrity of our motherboards? How many of us take detailed photos of traces, measure voltage and perform timings to determine whether an 'alien' chip has been soldered or additional components have been installed? . . . (specialist macro imaging techniques, looking for defects in a circuit board can be used to verify whether the board has been swapped out for a compromised board)

The surest defence is not to be a criminal

 

[Mateotis]

The surest defence is not to be a criminal

This. As long as you're not planning anything nefarious, you're safe from the NSA and every other agency. I'm pretty sure they have no need for the information from the average Joe.

 

[WinXPert]

Most NSA Data from Regular Internet Users: Report

 

[Nico@FMA]

if you want be "safe" use Linux , it is safe out of the box, of course they still can hack you after , but at least they will have to work a bit

Actually Umbra Linux is not save anymore specially the latest generations and distro's are BY far not secure anymore when it comes to intelligence activities. However Linux core itself is 100% save as it is not being manipulated like its windows rival.
BUT most of your rpm and update packages from third party vendors are on a modular basis add various hidden things to your Linux.
I was at a computer event here in the Netherlands some time ago and i did talk to some leading key figures within the Linux and Solaris community and they have by LAW been forced to enable some options to allow Linux distro's to be distributed on american soil.
I do not remember the name of the law itself, but it is said that ANY OS must be capable hidden remote access and decryption for criminal investigation reasons.
Any obstruction will result in a market ban and can be punished by heavy fines.
Also specific kernel details are being transmitted during update and these details are being used if they want to connect to your Linux box.
Also root access is easy obtainable as each Linux has a build in remote super root which again can be used due to the fact that decryption keys for Linux have been in NSA possession.
So deffo NO your Linux or Mac box is NOT protected against NSA type actions and neither does it provide a % more protection then a windows box does. The only true difference is that Windows does have at least 8 build in monitor features which Linux does not have yet.
Cheers

 

[Deleted member 178]

lol,thx for the infos, it is eveb worse than i tought...

 

[Cowpipe]

I'm considering doing a thread about hardware forensics, would anybody be interested in that? (Just interested to know whether it would be worth the considerable effort I'd have to put into it)

 

[WinXPert]

I'm considering doing a thread about hardware forensics, would anybody be interested in that? (Just interested to know whether it would be worth the considerable effort I'd have to put into it)

I don't know anything about that, may be it's worth reading even if it's beyond what I know.

 

[marg]

The British spy on the USA & we spy on the British. The same with a lot of other countries as well.

 

[Nico@FMA]

I'm considering doing a thread about hardware forensics, would anybody be interested in that? (Just interested to know whether it would be worth the considerable effort I'd have to put into it)

Well that's right up my sleeve so go ahead.
Keep in mind ANY topic with valid info is a plus to the community.

 

[Deleted member 178]

Exact. I am good with what I know, i will be better with what YOU know

 

[Littlebits]

I actually have a college friend who works for the NSA. He told me that they actively record all kinds of data but they don't have time to read all of it, they only read it if they have suspicions about a security matter. He said NSA can access the most secure VPN's, proxies and even Tor. They are more likely to follow and read data from users who try to hide their online activities using anonymous means to hide their identity. Hiding your online activity creates suspicions, so all of your users who thinks using these anonymous services and products hides from the NSA, you are wrong, it makes you a suspicious target and they are more likely to read all of your data.

Sometimes I wonder if most VPN's, proxies and other anonymous services are actually controlled by the NSA to record data.
We would have no way of knowing since the NSA has so much power they could either force or pay off to get your data if they wanted it.

VPN's, proxies and other anonymous services were originally created for privacy reasons but over the years they are mostly used for malicious purposes. I can see why the NSA will more likely read your data if you try to hide.

NSA could be corrupt but again they may just have to get more aggressive since the world is becoming very unsafe place.

Enjoy!!

 

[Koroke San]

and mostly USA based VPN are not trustworthy sadly.

 

[Littlebits]

and mostly USA based VPN are not trustworthy sadly.

NSA is no longer just the USA, it has direct ties to all member countries of the United Nations which is most of the world.

Enjoy!!

 

[Koroke San]

NSA is no longer just the USA, it has direct ties to all member countries of the United Nations which is most of the world.

Enjoy!!

thnx for information, next time when i'll buy VPN i'll be careful

 

[Deleted member 178]

VPN's, proxies and other anonymous services were originally created for privacy reasons but over the years they are mostly used for malicious purposes. I can see why the NSA will more likely read your data if you try to hide.
Enjoy!!

as i think they do with Truecrypt, force the devs/owner to open it to NSA , and if they refuse, sue them for conspiracy and threat against the nation. so they stopped developing it.

NSA could be corrupt but again they may just have to get more aggressive since the world is becoming very unsafe place.

sometimes to cure a disease , you must use a disease.