As McAfee annoyed me again today recommending me strongly I use its VPN when have & use one I already like I've removed it & installed Trend Max this afternoon, no problems & found I have a license that does not expire until July 2028 with 3 spare users left - So I'm keeping it on on until or if I have major issues, done a full scan which was fast & no issues found, I will see how it goes, on another license its already on 2 PC's I look after for others who have never complained so I'll see how it goes, no fan noise at all & they running slow so its light! Time will tell