They had a proton email address that they didn't know the identity behind it.
Proton Mail Helped FBI Unmask Anonymous ‘Stop Cop City’ Protester
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damn then he was really stupid.
i thought perhaps the authorities had an ip address and proton had the logs.
but how daft can you be to use your own email address.
i thought perhaps the authorities had an ip address and proton had the logs.
but how daft can you be to use your own email address.
The problem is unless you connect the VPN through ISP>TOR>VPN your connecting to the VPN through your ISP I.P. They are not stupid and can see this so it wont work to protect you.
Again with gift cards how are you going to pay for it? By credit card or PayPal so again they can connect the dots. There is no where you can buy a Mullvad gift card on the legit web without a credit card or PayPal. Maybe there are 3rd party suppliers on the dark web or people who trade Amazon purchases for crypto thats about as good as you will get.
The only part that is 100% legit is cash in mail to Mullvad, that is 'true' anonymous payment method. The problem is if your under investigation they will see your connecting to a Mullvad server and they will go from there to request account/data/WireGuard keys
When it comes to national security all bets are off, nothing is off limits and every country will sell you out or co-operate.
So I take it you've never heard of RAM servers, where nothing is written to the disk? There are only two VPNs I'm aware of that have either had their servers seized or have been taken two court where it's been proven that there are no logs. Both of these VPNs use RAM servers where any power loss (like it a server is seized) results in all session data being erased. Mullvad and AirVPN are both proven, not by a third party, but in court by governments, to truly be no-log. They can't hand over information that doesn't exist.
If a user pays for a gift card in cash, as I said before, you'll be good. Mullvad keeps records of all payments methods for only a week, including pre-paid gift card codes. But you're right. If you're an idiot doing shady stuff you deserve to get caught. But we don't al get what we deserve.
Yeah RAM servers, I'm not convinced. They can just raid the data center and replace the server or tap the server at the ISP level/undersea cable level which they obviously do..
Again where can you purchase a Mullvad gift card for cash? No where. If I'm wrong post the cash for gift card webpage/link and I'll buy 10 years worth.
Again where can you purchase a Mullvad gift card for cash? No where. If I'm wrong post the cash for gift card webpage/link and I'll buy 10 years worth.
It can be done. Although, as I've said, generate a random account key and mail cash to mullvad with that account info from a public place without return address.
You, uh, might want to work on your reading comprehension skills. I've said all this before.
You, uh, might want to work on your reading comprehension skills. I've said all this before.
Yeah that's not gift cards though that's through official Mullvad site. Sending cash addressed to Mullvad 101 Privacy Road SWE from Ed Snowden is sure not to raise suspicions.
You used to be able to buy gift cards with cash. I've done it at my local CVS. But that was a while ago. I believe serialcart also accepts cash for mullvad gift cards, but I've never done that.
Mullvad gift cards @ CVS? Not sure about that. SerialCart yeah I dunno he always says discount for MT members but never delivers and says 'already discounted'.
Even Amazon has raised Mullvad gift cards now, so the value to buy isnt really there since the USD crapped itself, now it's rising again maybe we see better discounts.
Even Amazon has raised Mullvad gift cards now, so the value to buy isnt really there since the USD crapped itself, now it's rising again maybe we see better discounts.
Dunno what to tell you, Every time I buy a gift card subscription from @SerialCart he gives me a slight discount. And, yes, CVS. They used to have a bunch of gift cards, before people started stealing them all the time. Mullvad was there, along with Nord and Astrill. But that was a while ago. Or, you can pay cash for a prepaid VISA and use that.
OK well I was wrong, never saw a Mullvad @ CVS when on my travels over there. Nord I can believe, even Astrill because it was heavily marketed as a China VPN.
Cash for prepaid Visa is a very good option, but again when you connect to server/Mullvad user portal there are issues.
Sending cash to Mullvad you have to be aware of the letter being intercepted and taking/dusting for fingerprints from the cash/letter.
Cash for prepaid Visa is a very good option, but again when you connect to server/Mullvad user portal there are issues.
Sending cash to Mullvad you have to be aware of the letter being intercepted and taking/dusting for fingerprints from the cash/letter.
I mean, yeah. But again, privacy is only a hobby, It's not like I'm suggesting ways for people that deserve to get caught to not get caught. I'm not. Nor am I up to nefarious douchebaggery. It's just a hobby, and hopefully it adds a bit of protection from data scrapers.
The point being, always add an intermediary between you and online traffic, especially when shopping.
The point being, always add an intermediary between you and online traffic, especially when shopping.
100% agree in every aspect, but for some people in authoritarian countries this life or death, or for journalists or whistleblowers. Not always criminals that need protection.
Probably not that daft; Proton's reputation and marketing (like others have said) may create a false sense of security. Services that can be used with anonymity, even legitimate ones, have limitations, including Tor and Proton.
Proton said this on Reddit:
There are still caveats with that instruction:
- For new account registration with a real IP, Proton logs the IP address to prevent abuse and for legal compliance. The log is eventually purged, but it's unclear how long this takes. New accounts are suspect. Swiss police could potentially compel Proton to "permanently" keep certain IP addresses associated with accounts.
- For new account registration via Tor, Proton requires a real email or phone number, which are saved as non-reversible hashes permanently. Having the hash and knowing the real phone number or email allows for matching. If you're already suspected of owning a Proton email address, the hash may still match you. And again, can the Swiss police ask Proton to watch for new account registration with certain phone number / email addresses?
- Proton allows enhanced login logging for security, which logs IP addresses, so you'd better not turn this on. Whatever logs you already have in the past should be purged.
Apart from minority persecution or similar, try to behave yourself on line as in real life as they actually are the same, do not not do stuff that's illegal or inherently wrong, you will sleep much better & have a improved conscience, then you are not worried about being tracked or covering all your bases as for me a VPN etc just adds privacy.
I logged in Mullvad website the other day to check some wireguard settings, and Mullvad website was "ranting" how they're under "attack" in UK!
Don't make it sound like their servers are being violently seized. They're just bring to attention proposed anti-privacy laws.
I could be wrong! but assuming CVS or Walgreens let's me pay cash for a prepaid Visa, you have to activate the card with Visa, I sorta recall Visa wants to know who you are (maybe I'm wrong about that) or do you give them a fake name, & Mullvad doesn't care as long as payment is linked to an account?
Also there is a huge problem with scammers targeting pre-paid VISA/MC all around the world. They steal/buy pre-paid scratch off pin & sometimes activate it before then return it to store or shove it back on the gift card rack. The problem arises when regular Joe buys a pre-paid goes to activate it and finds it's been drained/already (usually pin scratched/what ever activation methods used) used or when they try to activate it then the crooks are quick and use it with in minutes.
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