Because you don't want the weakest link to be attacked. Attackers go after the easy stuff first when there is a choice. Then you have a problem on your network.
Renewal Time F-Secure or ESET
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Eset is just better, even im finnish myself and i should promote finnish products like f-secure i would still choose eset after the avira changes
No one has mentioned Emsisoft now on both my PC's, pretty lite these days & recently I've been reading / scanning privacy policies
I would choose an eet, this is really good anti -virus I have been using it for years as well as on a laptop as well as mobile.
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The changes are probably as not as radical as they might first appear. If there is one problem I've always had with F-Secure is its deliberate unwillingness to be forthright (transparent) about product details. The staff are instructed to say nothing or virtually nothing as if they hold the world's nuclear missile launch codes.
It is so dumb. Ridiculous. Now, F-Secure no longer hides that it is using Avira components. There is no problem with Avira signatures, but if integrating those components reduces or eliminates useful product features (such as detailed error messages in scan logs) or negatively impacts protections, then there is a real problem. Avira is not so great at handling exploits. Not that F-Secure has ever shown that its own technology was very good at handling exploits either.
All said, at the end of the day, F-Secure remains one of the better options for the security illiterate and dis-inclined. That is until banking protection blocks one of them doing financial online transactions and they don't know how to handle it. They just turn off banking protection, which is one of the main reasons to use F-Secure.
Native Windows security is the best bang for the buck, but I lament that it is a societal guffaw - Windows native security is far too much a jigsaw puzzle of patchworked features, configurations, and exceptions to those configurations. Then there are all the unexpected behaviors which are expected but Microsoft never tells anyone they are expected. @Andy Ful is the SME on that. His long threads are the proof of my statement.
SpyNetGirl's Github page is proof that Windows native security is intended for enterprise. Not consumers. By extension, Windows is intended and designed for enterprise. Not consumers. This statement of fact is irrefutable. And so it goes in the world of digital security.
AVG includes everything you need and is very cheap great protection!
This is what Grok found:
Yes, F-Secure version 25.4 is safer than version 19.8. Here's why:
Upgrading to 25.4 is recommended for better protection. Check Protect your digital moments | F‑Secure for details.
Yes, F-Secure version 25.4 is safer than version 19.8. Here's why:
- Improved DeepGuard: Version 25.4 has an updated DeepGuard with faster cloud-based threat detection (as quick as 60 seconds) compared to 19.8, which uses an older, less advanced version.
- New Features in 25.4: Includes enhanced banking protection with customizable website lists, conflict detection for competing software, and SHA256 hash visibility for quarantined files, none of which are in 19.8.
- Better Malware Protection: Version 25.4 detects 97% of malware samples and includes "Browser Safety" for improved malicious URL blocking (91% in 19.8 vs. higher in 25.4).
- ARM64 Support: Version 25.4 supports ARM64 platforms, while 19.8 does not, limiting its compatibility with modern devices.
- Active Updates: Version 25.4 receives ongoing security updates, whereas 19.8 may be end-of-life, lacking new virus definitions or patches, increasing vulnerability.
Upgrading to 25.4 is recommended for better protection. Check Protect your digital moments | F‑Secure for details.
Grok may be letting you down a bit as far as DeepGuard which has been replaced (renamed in the app to Behavior Detection) by Avirs's Sentry Protection SDK. My below image is from 25.4
From this link of the 25.2 changes:
FSecure Knowledge
"DeepGuard" is renamed to "Behavior Detection".
From Brave Leo:
What is Avira Sentry SDK
Avira Sentry Protection SDK is a component of Avira's security software suite, typically found in BullGuard Internet Security and BullGuard Premium Protection. It is an executable file named SentryEye.exe that provides real-time protection for your computer by monitoring for potential threats such as viruses, malware, and other malicious software and taking immediate action to neutralize them.
Also, see @Shadowra opening comments on his review of 25.2
App Review - F-Secure Internet Security v25.2
F-Secure is a Finnish security solutions company. After partnering with Avira to supply its virus base, this release marks a big change in protection. Gone is DeepGuard, and F-Secure is now using Sentry, Avira's behavioral protection! One thing's for sure: it's a risky move for the company to...
malwaretips.com
They have been making some nice changes as you, Grok mentioned, as well as the VPN that is actually worth using now. WireGuard connection issues will be worked out.
Still, whether the FP has ever been an issue when using the app for those who use it (I'm trying IS + the VPN), AV-Comparative wasn't to thrilled about it, needs improvement.
App Review - F-Secure Internet Security v25.2
It's kind of sad, but we have a Winner, F-Secure IS 25.2 for the most FP's in the AV-Comparatives March report. In real world use, there are about 4 threads (incidents) on their forum regarding FP's, including the Mullvad browser that was fixed for a while until an update and is being blocked...
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Because it's nepo baby Musk's BS AI. He's a destroyer of worlds. Word.
When I saw that posted I had to look that up, I hadn't heard of Grok before.Because it's nepo baby Musk's BS AI. He's a destroyer of worlds. Word.
Yeah, he's running all the stolen data from U.S. citizens through it for AI training and profit.
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Grok isn't bad at all and you can use it for free limited
Maybe only Gemini is superior and even then depends on the prompt
But in general ML hallucinate too much so don't depend on any ML
He bought the data legally from data brokers so does the US government
Thanks for the post, but I never endorse what Grot writes, but it's an assessment of f-secure that I find interesting. Maybe it will turn out that f-secure is not on a wild path, but on the way to something better?
It was mentioned earlier by Zero Knowledge(he also recommends some others),but if you add Cyberlock,(if its affordable to you) your just way better protected with any other choice, also appquard, a bit expensive, is another super strong candidate addition to consider
That's what I'm hoping for, too. At this point, they're still going through some v25 growing pains, but I do like some of the changes they've made. The changelog link has a lot of the good improvements you mentioned in your previous post. I also like using it in tandem with Glasswire.
FSecure Knowledge
Cyberlock is a excellent recommendation, as others will agree with you. But as @danb mentioned in a post, it is geared more towards the business user, as a normal user could find it confusing, as it would be in my case
New Update - VoodooShield CyberLock 7.0
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