App Review Shadowra's Big Comparative : Episode 2 - Paid Antivirus

[carl fish]

Entreprise version

Hi Shadowra do you have a list of enterprise antiviruses that you will be testing?

 

[superleeds27]

Kaspersky is OG.
Eset is slow in dynamic protection.

Maybe. But I've still had more issues with Kaspersky lately then I've ever had before.

 

[Khushal]

Entreprise version

sorry i didn't get my answer regarding application control.

 

[micasayyo]

Good job @Shadowra . ESET is my alternative to Kaspersky on several computers where my Kaspersky license was running out. Regards

 

[carl fish]

Good job @Shadowra . ESET is my alternative to Kaspersky on several computers where my Kaspersky license was running out. Regards

I like Eset over kaspersky because Kaspersky is a bit buggy and I personally prefer Eset's banking mode

 

[Captain Awesome]

sorry i didn't get my answer regarding application control.

Its mostly stay on High in KAC.

 

[Shadowra]

Hi Shadowra do you have a list of enterprise antiviruses that you will be testing?

DeepInstinct, SentinelOne, MS Defender for Business, WithSecure, Cylance, Harmony, CrowndStrike

sorry i didn't get my answer regarding application control.

Sorry I didn't see your question...

It was about weak, it was unknown at the time of the tests.

 

[BulletKnowledge]

Thanks you for the test.
Eset really improve is capability against unknown.
Eset vs Defender vs winner av enterprise that promise an epic final fight

 

[zkSnark]

Kaspersky is OG.
Eset is slow in dynamic protection.

What does that mean?

 

[Sorrento]

Shadowra today

 

[Captain Awesome]

What does that mean?

It is about ESET abilities to determine about malicious programs in the cloud/BB. Which is Eset still needs to improve vs Kaspersky.

 

[superleeds27]

It is about ESET abilities to determine about malicious programs in the cloud/BB. Which is Eset still needs to improve vs Kaspersky.

But how much difference is there? Are we talking massive differences or just a few percent?

I guess your average Joe will never know the difference if they're habits are good

 

[nickstar1]

I knew McAfee would kick butt

 

[Captain Awesome]

But how much difference is there? Are we talking massive differences or just a few percent?

I guess your average Joe will never know the difference if they're habits are good

To beat Kaspersky's cloud ESET need massive improvements in Cloud service. IMO Eset is in childhood in cloud processing.

 

[cofer123]

I would like to have ESET back permanently, but they still have issues with their firewall rules. It's been like this since version 16.2 when they revamped its functionality and it still affects both home and commercial products.

At least once a week (usually more often than that) it will randomly block trusted network connections like DHCP renewal, DNS servers, RDP or whatever rules you have defined for applications. The outcome is a brief loss of connectivity for the entire computer (when it blocks DHCP renewall or DNS) or loss of communication for the affected applications. If you don't use an application that establishes a long session connection like Remote Desktop, SSH, or a local server and only browse the internet, you might not even notice it. If you check ESET's network session for blocked connections, there will be plently of entries for the affected services/applications when the problem occurs.

It happens on any of my devices (half a dozen computers) with distinct hardware and software components on different networks and different households. Their forums have reports of this to this day. It's intermittent thus hard to pinpoint, but it's there. Opening support tickets don't help, engaging on their forums don't help, so I simply cannot use it. The moment I remove ESET and use anything else like Defender, Kaspersky or Bitdefender, I never face these issues.

 

[superleeds27]

I would like to have ESET back permanently, but they still have issues with their firewall rules. It's been like this since version 16.2 when they revamped its functionality and it still affects both home and commercial products.

At least once a week (usually more often than that) it will randomly block trusted network connections like DHCP renewal, DNS servers, RDP or whatever rules you have defined for applications. The outcome is a brief loss of connectivity for the entire computer (when it blocks DHCP renewall or DNS) or loss of communication for the affected applications. If you don't use an application that establishes a long session connection like Remote Desktop, SSH, or a local server and only browse the internet, you might not even notice it. If you check ESET's network session for blocked connections, there will be plently of entries for the affected services/applications when the problem occurs.

It happens on any of my devices (half a dozen computers) with distinct hardware and software components on different networks and different households. Their forums have reports of this to this day. It's intermittent thus hard to pinpoint, but it's there. Opening support tickets don't help, engaging on their forums don't help, so I simply cannot use it. The moment I remove ESET and use anything else like Defender, Kaspersky or Bitdefender, I never face these issues.

Have you reported it?

 

[cofer123]

Have you reported it?

Yes, back when 16.2 released and later around version 17.1.

You can find most reports on their Endpoint forums. It's the same issue affecting both Endpoint and Home products. The most recent example is here: https://forum.eset.com/topic/42566-eset-blocking-rdp-on-random-clients/

 

[superleeds27]

Yes, back when 16.2 released and later around version 17.1.

You can find most reports on their Endpoint forums. It's the same issue affecting both Endpoint and Home products. The most recent example is here: https://forum.eset.com/topic/42566-eset-blocking-rdp-on-random-clients/

Looks like there's a fix in there for it? Or a workaround at least till it's officially fixed

 

[CyberDevil]

A pleasant result for Eset, though most likely achieved due to some luck. Eset has an excellent signature engine and good system-level web protection through HTTPS/QUIC scanning (which can be further configured, for instance, to block dangerous top-level domains). However, its HIPS is too weak, even though it has been slightly improved, and behavioral analysis is almost nonexistent. While this benefits performance, it weakens protection.

The absence of behavioral analysis in the Smart Security Premium version is compensated by Live Guard, where unknown files are uploaded to the cloud for analysis in a virtual environment. This approach is convenient for maintaining local machine performance but has its downsides:

1. The cloud verdict requires a wait time ranging from 10 seconds to 15–20 minutes, depending on the sample size and potentially other factors.
2. The analysis is limited to a maximum file size of 64 megabytes, so many files simply bypass this system, leaving only the reputation checks from LiveGrid as a fallback.

The lack of HIPS is also partially offset in Smart Security Premium with a separate folder protection module, which can also safeguard browser profiles. However, this does not provide full system protection against accidental damage or configuration changes.

Overall, Eset is an excellent, flexible, lightweight, and customizable antivirus that I enjoy using. However, its zero-day protection is objectively weaker than that of Kaspersky and Bitdefender. That said, there are no perfect products—just those that suit our needs.

 

[Khushal]

A pleasant result for Eset, though most likely achieved due to some luck. Eset has an excellent signature engine and good system-level web protection through HTTPS/QUIC scanning (which can be further configured, for instance, to block dangerous top-level domains). However, its HIPS is too weak, even though it has been slightly improved, and behavioral analysis is almost nonexistent. While this benefits performance, it weakens protection.

The absence of behavioral analysis in the Smart Security Premium version is compensated by Live Guard, where unknown files are uploaded to the cloud for analysis in a virtual environment. This approach is convenient for maintaining local machine performance but has its downsides:

1. The cloud verdict requires a wait time ranging from 10 seconds to 15–20 minutes, depending on the sample size and potentially other factors.
2. The analysis is limited to a maximum file size of 64 megabytes, so many files simply bypass this system, leaving only the reputation checks from LiveGrid as a fallback.

The lack of HIPS is also partially offset in Smart Security Premium with a separate folder protection module, which can also safeguard browser profiles. However, this does not provide full system protection against accidental damage or configuration changes.

Overall, Eset is an excellent, flexible, lightweight, and customizable antivirus that I enjoy using. However, its zero-day protection is objectively weaker than that of Kaspersky and Bitdefender. That said, there are no perfect products—just those that suit our needs.

Each and every word u have written is pure gold.