Advice Request So which good and safe VPN are left now?

[SpiderWeb]

I think they're all data mining. HTTPS is the best VPN. It comes with your browser for free. Don't let anyone get inbetween your encrypted traffic. Ever.

 

[Andrew999]

I would personally say AirVPN and CactusVPN are both very good. But in my opinion, AirVPN is slightly better.

 

[blacksheep]

Deploy your own or check my recommendations Q&A - How to choose VPN provider | Guide by blacksheep

 

[alakazam]

Nord got Obvious Scam tactics and is linked to Tesonet.
Surfshark Joined Nord and is linked to Tesonet.

What is Tesonet and why is it bad? Sorry, I'm not up to date with the news.

 

[Moonhorse]

Id vote for adguard , but i see people promoting mulwad + windscribe

I know bunch of clan communities wich have forums and the admin will ip grab + ddos you later if you leave clan community for internet goods. So i just avoid those sites or visit the site with tor browser

 

[SpiderWeb]

Internet browsers just need to implement encrypted client hello to complete the picture and VPNs will be obsolete. With ECH nobody will be able to know what websites you visit.

Example:

http: https://malwaretips.com/threads/so-which-good-and-safe-vpn-are-left-now.112308/page-2#post-974621
https: https://malwaretips.com/*
ECH: https://*

 

[Fuzzy_Bunny]

Does anyone use windscribe pro? Are Russian servers fast and stable?
I don't need 100% privacy, just fast and stable russian servers.

 

[n8chavez]

Internet browsers just need to implement encrypted client hello to complete the picture and VPNs will be obsolete. With ECH nobody will be able to know what websites you visit.

Example:

Not at all true. Encryption is just one aspect of a VPN; the others being IP concealing and bypassing restrictions. HTTPS cannot do those other two. Ther argument that HTTPS makes VPNs obsolete is invalid.

 

[Andrew999]

Does anyone use windscribe pro? Are Russian servers fast and stable?
I don't need 100% privacy, just fast and stable russian servers.

Well, I personally use Windscribe pro. I don't use Russian servers but by looking at their Windscribe status page it seems they have quite a high uptime so I believe they should be stable. Also, they have 3 datacenter locations, 1 in Moscow and 2 in Saint Petersberg so I believe atleast 1 location should work well for you.

 

[Jonwinter]

Systweak is not a particularly trustworthy company. But I know verry little about either of their VPNs and if your data is safe with them.

Well I am using it right now the systweak VPN and it work good for me but I am using it for around two months.

 

[roger_m]

Well I am using it right now the systweak VPN and it work good for me but I am using it for around two months.

A VPN working well is a separate issue to privacy. A VPN can work well and be untrustworthy.

 

[Kami7]

To the mullvad application I can add from myself these providers also as noteworthy. They are privatevpn and torguard.
privatevpn.com
torguard.net

 

[Shadowra]

Don't discount the fact that you even know about this event. We could have easily said nothing, and you would never know. We chose to make it public, despite the damage to reputation.

I can almost guarantee you that this happened multiple times with "bigger" providers (it's a numbers game, more users/servers = higher chance of seizure), and they said nothing about it, because most seizures don't end up in public court case documents. Being called out publicly, after brushing things under the rug and hoping nobody notices, is how most VPN providers "disclose" things.

We made a mistake, disclosed it to every one of our users, and supplied a solution in record time. As a result, not only did we not see a spike in cancelations, more existing users opt in to pay for our service after learning how we handled this unfortunate event.

The best would be to switch to RAM-Only servers so that no information can be disclosed, no?

 

[n8chavez]

To the mullvad application I can add from myself these providers also as noteworthy. They are privatevpn and torguard.
privatevpn.com
torguard.net

Both of those are located in USA jurisdiction, so I would stay away. Stay with Mullvad, who is switching to RAM only servers.

 

[roger_m]

The best would be to switch to RAM-Only servers so that no information can be disclosed, no?

I believe that's what they did.

 

[Kongo]

Internet browsers just need to implement encrypted client hello to complete the picture and VPNs will be obsolete. With ECH nobody will be able to know what websites you visit.

Example:

Thats only partially true. @n8chavez already mentioned that ECH definintely doesn't cover all functions that a VPN has.

Also:

While ECH is under active development, its availability may be intermittent as it requires both the client and server to support the same version.

Source: Encrypted Client Hello: the future of ESNI in Firefox – Mozilla Security Blog

 

[Fuzzy_Bunny]

Well, I personally use Windscribe pro. I don't use Russian servers but by looking at their Windscribe status page it seems they have quite a high uptime so I believe they should be stable. Also, they have 3 datacenter locations, 1 in Moscow and 2 in Saint Petersberg so I believe atleast 1 location should work well for you.

Thanks. I found some russian VPNs on vpngate.net and they are superfast. I'll probably stick with it

 

[SpiderWeb]

Not at all true. Encryption is just one aspect of a VPN; the others being IP concealing and bypassing restrictions. HTTPS cannot do those other two. Ther argument that HTTPS makes VPNs obsolete is invalid.

I think the golden era of VPNs bypassing IP georestrictions is long over. Every platform with DRM content I can think of has blacklisted literally every VPN server there is because bypassing restrictions is legally a violation of ToS and most definitely illegal in the country of that jurisdiction. Unless VPNs start using extremely popular CDN hosts that can't be blocked. Apple is doing this with iCloud Private Relay. They are using Cloudflare, Fastly and Akamai which simply cannot be blacklisted by anyone. VPNs still leak your IP, except they will show that you are 24/7 connected to a single server which should be a hint to anyone that you are using a VPN.

 

[n8chavez]

I think the golden era of VPNs bypassing IP georestrictions is long over. Every platform with DRM content I can think of has blacklisted literally every VPN server there is because bypassing restrictions is legally a violation of ToS and most definitely illegal in the country of that jurisdiction. Unless VPNs start using extremely popular CDN hosts that can't be blocked. Apple is doing this with iCloud Private Relay. They are using Cloudflare, Fastly and Akamai which simply cannot be blacklisted by anyone. VPNs still leak your IP, except they will show that you are 24/7 connected to a single server which should be a hint to anyone that you are using a VPN.

Yeah...no. None of that is true at all! What are you using?

 

[SpiderWeb]

I've been using VPNs for 6 years straight. Windscribe, Mullvad, Cloudflare, iCloud Private Relay. But alright... Give your data away to fearmongering data miners lol.