Latest changes
Aug 27, 2020
Daily driver
My primary device
Operating system
Windows 10 Home
OS version
1909
System type
64-bit operating system; x64-based processor
Security updates
Automatically allow security updates only
Windows UAC
Do not dim desktop - Notify me only when programs try to make changes to my computer
Firewall protection
Custom - Provided by a third-party security vendor
Account privileges
Administrator account
Account type
Sign in with local account
Account log-in
  • Account Password
  • Exposure to malware
    No malware samples are downloaded
    Real-time Malware protection
    Across my systems, I have:
    Norton Security
    McAfee Endpoint Security (latest version)
    RTP configuration
    Mainly default settings with some minor tweaks.
    Periodic scanners
    None needed
    Browser and Add-ons
    Don't Track Me Google, Ublock Origin and The Great Suspender (Chrome)/Auto Tab Discard (Firefox)
    Privacy tools and VPN
    Various VPNs but rarely used (NordVPN/PIA/GeoVPN).
    OpenDNS server as default DNS server on one system
    Google DNS (Router) (used by another system)
    1.1.1.1 Cloudflare DNS on another system
    Password manager
    Keepass
    Search engine
    DuckDuckGO on Firefox, Google on Google Chrome
    Maintenance tools
    Bleachbit/CCleaner/PrivaZer
    EaseUS Partition Manager
    Photos and Files backup
    Paragon Backup & Recovery/AOMEI Backupper Standard (Free)
    File Backup schedule
    Once or multiple times per month
    Backup and Restore
    Paragon Backup & Recovery/AOMEI Backupper Standard (Free)
    Backup schedule
    Once or more per year
    Computer Activity
  • Playing computer games
  • Browsing the web and checking emails
  • Computer Specifications
    Republic of Gamers Gaming Laptop, i7, 16GB RAM, GeForce GTX 860M, 2 HDDs
    Your changelog
    19th August 2020 - After a week of tests, decided to settle once again for ESET.
    Performance gain is minimal in comparison to KIS/MES however every little helps, specially for gaming.

    25th August 2020 - ESET Internet Security installed in my other system while the Gaming system is now running Kaspersky Internet Security 2020 (Latest patch); installed Kaspersky Protection browser extension.

    27th August 2020 - Removed Kaspersky due to some problems with Path of Exile. Too lazy to troubleshoot, so reinstalled ESET Internet Security and imported my settings and rules.

    31st August 2020 - since I have multiple systems and several solutions installed across the systems, I listed the 3 security solutions I use.

    4th September 2020 - Updated Browser extensions (removed obsolete ones): Don't Track Me Google, Ublock Origin and The Great Suspender (Chrome)/Auto Tab Discard (Firefox)

    7th September 2020 - Reinstalled ESET Internet Security:
    ESET: Default Settings + HTTPS checking disabled + HIPS on Smart Mode

    9th September 2020 - Out goes ESET replaced by KIS 2020 tweaked

    18th September 2020 - Been testing for a week extensively on my gaming system Norton Security. Good enough for my needs.

    Soulbound

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    Despite after so many years of using different Security Solutions and Combos, I keep going back to McAfee Endpoint Security and as always I am reminded there was no reason really to move away from it. I cannot really recommend to most home users since its an Endpoint Solution but if you are able to buy/interested in Endpoint Solutions for personal use, then I fully recommend it.

    My configuration can be considered minimal but secured enough, specially for my needs.
     

    Soulbound

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    Despite no longer doing testing, I still keep a few tools for comparison etc. Bleachbit i used extensively in Linux back then.

    I am familiar with NextDNS however I still prefer OpenDNS and its free and good enough for my needs :)
     

    Soulbound

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    Looks like I am having a higher system impact with KIS as opposed to McAfee Endpoint Security.
    WIll require some testing but most likely in next 12 hours I will revert back to McAfee Endpoint Security and do some further tweaks.
     

    Vitali Ortzi

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    Looks like I am having a higher system impact with KIS as opposed to McAfee Endpoint Security.
    WIll require some testing but most likely in next 12 hours I will revert back to McAfee Endpoint Security and do some further tweaks.
    Not sure about performance but in MacAfee I remember having so much to twaek and play with that made Kaspersky consumer version pretty dull in comparison .

    But I do use Kaspersky on my gaming computer since I downloaded so many mods and that I need more balanced FPs response in that machine.
     

    Vitali Ortzi

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    McAfee Endpoint is different from the normal consumer versions.

    Ill take some screenshots later
    No need I used the endpoint security version ENS .
    Has so many features but I still use SEP(on premise) on my main pc
    Other computers in my house excluding a gaming PC(KFA) and very low end one (CF) run SEP on premise .


    As for Gaming I would choose Kaspersky(stronger by default) or ESET(lighter) all the way because you will download like 100+ mod files per game and it's not ideal to use an endpoint security product because it's just an annoyance in that regard .
    And I will never use a gaming computer with work or even logging into my own email as well I won't use steam with personal details (debt card and fake Id ) and I would use an isolated networking as well .
     
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    Soulbound

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    As for Gaming I would choose Kaspersky(stronger by default) or ESET(lighter) all the way because you will download like 100+ mod files per game and it's not ideal to use an endpoint security product because it's just an annoyance in that regard .
    This is where you are wrong, Endpoint security or Home Security software behave similar. At least for ESET/McAfee. There are key differences but not on the modules that is present on both, and it wont affect any downloads either since i dont download mods.

    And I will never use a gaming computer with work or even logging into my own email as well I won't use steam with personal details (debt card and fake Id ) and I would use an isolated networking as well .
    My system is protected enough that i can use it for both gaming and working from home. There is enough security even from work environment.
    There is no need to be extra paranoid.


    As for 19th Aug change log, switched to Eset for now.
     

    blackice

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    This is where you are wrong, Endpoint security or Home Security software behave similar. At least for ESET/McAfee. There are key differences but not on the modules that is present on both, and it wont affect any downloads either since i dont download mods.


    My system is protected enough that i can use it for both gaming and working from home. There is enough security even from work environment.
    There is no need to be extra paranoid.


    As for 19th Aug change log, switched to Eset for now.
    I think this is a reasonable approach. Not every gamer is downloading 100s of ROMs/cracks/mods. Some of us only use official stores and also use our home computers for daily uses. No need to go overboard.

    Also I have a soft spot for ESET.
     
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    Vitali Ortzi

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    I think this is a reasonable approach. Not every gamer is downloading 100s or ROMs/cracks/mods. Some of us only use official stores and also use our home computers for daily uses. No need to go overboard.

    Also I have a soft spot for ESET.
    Still even using popular websites for mods caused a huge false positives with most endpoint and a lot of consumer products.

    But since you don't require mods to have a good experience gaming then it's fine .

    Anyway I would recommend if this PC is used for emails or any work related with gaming at least deny outbound connections assuming you can live without a multiplayer game and use a dedicated machine for that kind of somewhat risky workload that has to be able to send information to "random" machines.
    And don't forget to isolate/ reduce local access networking on the dedicated gaming machine .
     
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    Soulbound

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    Removed Kaspersky due to some problems with Path of Exile. Too lazy to troubleshoot, so reinstalled ESET Internet Security and imported my settings and rules.

    HIPS is on Policy Based but before changing to such mode, I had Learning mode on for a few days to have all operations learnt before applying Policy Based.
     

    Soulbound

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    31st August 2020 - since I have multiple systems and several solutions installed across the systems, I listed the 3 security solutions I use.

    McAfee Endpoint Security - light gaming system and mainly normal usage system + backup system
    ESET Internet Security - Gaming system used by son
    Kaspersky Internet Security - My main gaming system
     

    Vitali Ortzi

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    31st August 2020 - since I have multiple systems and several solutions installed across the systems, I listed the 3 security solutions I use.

    McAfee Endpoint Security - light gaming system and mainly normal usage system + backup system
    ESET Internet Security - Gaming system used by son
    Kaspersky Internet Security - My main gaming system
    Really good choices all can be configerd to act as default deny .
     
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