Moonhorse

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Most phishing sites aren't up for longer than 24/49 hours, why such worry?
The whole thread is about effectiveness of browser extensions , comparison in phishing and blocking malware

Usually when we are tested the urls here, people are getting urls from phishtank etc. evjl and some of other members have of course better sources of having more fresh urls than phishtank

Usually netcraft and forticlient are scoring 100%, but the two urls i sent are up for more than 36 hours. Are these just zero days of phishing urls, probably not currently linked to huge crowd and its why theyre slowly blocked

Anyway default deny of phishing ( can i call it like that? ) extensions like blocksi, forticlient (not extension) and trace could be effective by simply having such blocking rules and not heurestic like netcraft or malwarebytes probably have

Its not that we are falling into these phishing urls..i doubt many members have ever fallen into such sites...for me these kind of testing and comparing means that i can tell my friends/ family members to install such extensions or antivirus wide such av to avoid them being in contact with such scams/frauds/phishing sites
 

TairikuOkami

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Most phishing sites aren't up for longer than 24/49 hours, why such worry?
Exactly, that is the problem, because that is the golden hour, afterwards, links are either blocked or disabled, so they are just moved to the new links and it starts again. It is about effectiveness of the service after it has been reported. Opendns responds within minutes, K9/Norton within hours.
 

Decopi

Level 2
Hello @Evjl's Rain !

Sadly today I was informed (@imuade ) about K9. For me K9 was an exceptional alternative (without the ugly/nightmare blocking lists). Anyway, now I am looking for a K9 replacement. In my opinion, you are the highest authority in this subject, so please allow me to consult you:

1) Browser extensions/add-ons are a pain in the @ss. So, I have two alternatives: To use native internal browser blocking tools, or to use system/network/desktop level alternatives for blocking tracking/ads/malware. With regards to this second alternative (system/network/desktop level), I already know about Pi-hole, Adguard-desktop, Comodo Firewall, and DNS services. Do you know any other good system/network/desktop level alternative for blocking tracking/ads/malwares?

2) I still have Comodo Firewall/CS' settings. I can use the "Web Filter" option in order to customize my blocked lists. Please, can you update your recommended lists for blocking tracking, ads and malwares?

Thank you in advance!
 
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imuade

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Hello @Evjl's Rain !

Sadly today I was informed (@imuade ) about K9. For me K9 was an exceptional alternative (without the ugly/nightmare blocking lists). Anyway, now I am looking for a K9 replacement. In my opinion, you are the highest authority in this subject, so please allow me to consult you:

1) Browser extensions/add-ons are a pain in the @ss. So, I have two alternatives: To use native internal browser blocking tools, or to use system/network/desktop level alternatives for blocking tracking/ads/malware. With regards to this second alternative (system/network/desktop level), I already know about Pi-hole, Adguard-desktop, Comodo Firewall, and DNS services. Do you know any other good system/network/desktop level alternative for blocking tracking/ads/malwares?

2) I still have Comodo Firewall/CS' settings. I can use the "Web Filter" option in order to customize my blocked lists. Please, can you update your recommended lists for blocking tracking, ads and malwares?

Thank you in advance!
A good alternative is FortiClient. When you install it, you can choose to install the web filter only. It's very effective, even if it uses several processes
forticlient1.png


Another alternative is CleanBrowsing DNS (compatible with DNScrypt)
 

Threadripper

Level 4
AdGuard DNS/Quad9/similar + Emsisoft Browser Security (pretty much the most private blocking extension there is) + browser's built in blocklist (SmartScreen, safebrowsing, etc.) are plenty. Most software based website blockers play with certs, avoid avoid avoid.
 

Moonhorse

Level 25
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Hello @Evjl's Rain !

Sadly today I was informed (@imuade ) about K9. For me K9 was an exceptional alternative (without the ugly/nightmare blocking lists). Anyway, now I am looking for a K9 replacement. In my opinion, you are the highest authority in this subject, so please allow me to consult you:

1) Browser extensions/add-ons are a pain in the @ss. So, I have two alternatives: To use native internal browser blocking tools, or to use system/network/desktop level alternatives for blocking tracking/ads/malware. With regards to this second alternative (system/network/desktop level), I already know about Pi-hole, Adguard-desktop, Comodo Firewall, and DNS services. Do you know any other good system/network/desktop level alternative for blocking tracking/ads/malwares?

2) I still have Comodo Firewall/CS' settings. I can use the "Web Filter" option in order to customize my blocked lists. Please, can you update your recommended lists for blocking tracking, ads and malwares?

Thank you in advance!
-sophos home free has dashboard, wich has family filters + malware blocking of course....with CF its okay

-Forticlient has the best web filter available currently ( in my opinion + free aswell) only downside is that it might be blocking youtube for some users , atleast for me it will run youtube completely in restricted mode so im unable to watch all videos available...otherwise i have not seen any other problems

- Blocksi (extension) has family filter + combine it with new chromium edge you have smartscreen aswell or google safebrowsing

I would personaly just stick either google chrome ( google safe browsing) or chromium edge ( smartscreen) + ublock origin (ads)
 

HarborFront

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Anyone else tried NoScript for Chrome-based browser?

@LDogg
@HarborFront

I would like to see your updated computer security config soon :cool:
My laptop security will most likely be 'RISKY' because I'm more privacy focused. Backup will not be there for I store my data on flash/external SSD drive. Password management will not be required
:ROFLMAO:
 

oldschool

Level 26
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Anyone else tried NoScript for Chrome-based browser?
I've used it briefly but it requires more time to get comfortable with. NoScript, uMatrix, etc. all have a longer learning curve than uBO and similar. Check here for varying opinons about it: NoScript 10

I agree with this:
I would personaly just stick either google chrome ( google safe browsing) or chromium edge ( smartscreen) + ublock origin (ads)
uBO or Nano Adblocker. If you learn to use them in Advanced User Medium Mode (very short learning curve) you will be more than safe (of course, depending on web surfing habits!). Most users completely overlook this advanced option. Others simply don't want to bother. I highly recommend a little time investment in this. (y):)
 

Burrito

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I've used it briefly but it requires more time to get comfortable with. NoScript, uMatrix, etc. all have a longer learning curve than uBO and similar. Check here for varying opinons about it: NoScript 10

I agree with this:


uBO or Nano Adblocker. If you learn to use them in Advanced User Medium Mode (very short learning curve) you will be more than safe (of course, depending on web surfing habits!). Most users completely overlook this advanced option. Others simply don't want to bother. I highly recommend a little time investment in this. (y):)
Yeah, advanced uBO can do so many things... when I first started digging into it, it seemed complicated and beyond my willingness to learn. But then it slowly sank in... it can be really powerful. uBO can be designed as default-deny in its strictest mode. It is impractical though, as this means that most web pages would be broken... just like strict NoScript.

When I used NoScript years ago, I loved it at first. I thought it was great that all scripts need permission to run.

After a while though, I got tired of 'gaming' every website to see what I had to turn off and could leave on for the website to function properly. It gave me security fatigue. And even though clearly I was safer with it... I dumped it.

Usability matters.

If a big white list were developed, I can see where that would negate some of the safety that NoScript brings.

Although I'm mildly interested to see how it does in Chrome, I'm probably not willing to mess with it that much.
 

oldschool

Level 26
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It is impractical though, as this means that most web pages would be broken... just like strict NoScript.
Actually very few web pages are broken so as to be unreadable. Other breaks in pages may involve a missing a YouTube or Vimeo iframe which is easily fixed with one click. A couple of more clicks may be necessary for sites one logs onto but once yours are set are no problem at all. Ultimately it comes down to your browsing habits and style. The key is learning which domains are usually involved in any breakage and they tend to be the same or common ones. The Hated One has the "must see" video on using Medium Mode in uBO or Nano here:

In the end it's different strokes for different folks, however this discussion is taking us way off-topic and is better suited to another thread.
 
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Azure

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Anyone else tried NoScript for Chrome-based browser?

@LDogg
@HarborFront

I would like to see your updated computer security config soon :cool:
I did for a short while. It's limited compared to the Firefox version. If someone wants a script-blocker then I think uBlock Origin would be a better option.
 

Burrito

Level 12
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Actually very few web pages are broken so as to be unreadable. Other breaks page may involve a missing a YouTube or Vimeo iframe which is easily fixed with one click. A couple of more clicks may be necessary for sites one logs onto but once yours are set are no problem at all. Ultimately it comes down to your browsing habits and style. The key is learning which domains are usually involved in any breakage and they tend to be the same or common ones. The Hated One has the "must see" video on using Medium Mode in uBO or Nano here:

In the end it's different strokes for different folks, however this discussion is taking us way off-topic and is better suited to another thread.
I need to dig further.

Thanks.

v/r Burrito