Advice Request Which Linux OS best for everyday work?

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Vitali Ortzi

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I disagree with @Vitali Ortzi in terms of practical use of Fedora Silverblue -- I find it a little harder to work with as its system is "immutable" but it gets updates almost every day anyway. I agree with comment re Zorin and I think MX-Linux with xfce4 is also an easy move from windows. I'm getting comfy in linux again and I now prefer fedora workstation 41 w/Gnome. (fwiw :whistle: )
Good to hear you like fedora but it's not surprising as some of the greatest devs including the god of Linux Linus Torvalds use it as a daily driver
 

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If you want everything and the kitchen sink, especially for editing videos and other media, I would recommend Ubuntu Studio.
Anyway you can just install the stuff you need to any distribution
I would say UI is more important then a distribution as the common ones are all great (although some better for specific usage)
 

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Well immutable is super important for security in my opinion everyone should have it but usual advice of a stable Linux distro I hear among Linux guys is debian Wich is probably more stable then even all of above


But specifically about user interface for windows , Mac users above you mentioned are some of the great picks for that

So eh just choose whatever they all are os systems using Linux have same terminal commands (bash ) and everything variable between them is just updates , desktop environments etc usually but some go far as removing systemd and other components that are usually used alongside Linux
I have Debian with Gnome too. Like it. Gnome maybe takes a more time getting use to than xfce4 imo. (practically speaking re Silverblue what seems like a simple update can take much longer than you'd expect as it writes its various layers (I only vaguely understand its immutability -- good thing I'm retired -- I go watch a movie while it updates :ROFLMAO: )
 
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I have Debian with Gnome too. Like it. Gnome maybe takes a more time getting use to than xfce4 imo. (practically speaking re Silverblue what seems like a simple update can take much longer than you'd expect as it writes its various layers (I only vaguely understand its immutability -- good thing I'm retired -- I go watch a movie while it updates :ROFLMAO: )
If you have more time to waste as a new Linux guy
You can try kde too it's the most rich desktop environment
Btw about Linux updates taking a while well it literally compiles everything and sometimes stuff will break (that's why many Linux users just don't update and pretend cves , malware doesn't exist to comfort them )
 

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If you have more time to waste as a new Linux guy
You can try kde too it's the most rich desktop environment
Btw about Linux updates taking a while well it literally compiles everything and sometimes stuff will break (that's why many Linux users just don't update and pretend cves , malware doesn't exist to comfort them )
I did use KDE in more distant past, for me two DE are enough for now. I thought I'd already have the need to try another distro perhaps with KDE but not feeling the need to leave fedora or silverblue, lately I bounce back and forth between those 2, both with gnome.
 
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Anyway you can just install the stuff you need to any distribution
I would say UI is more important then a distribution as the common ones are all great (although some better for specific usage)
I agree, but if you want everything and the kitchen sink, it's not a bad option.

I also enjoy Fedora Silverblue. Acclimating yourself to ostree is the only major hurdle.

Not that I would recommend something I have not tried myself, but I have heard good things about OpenSuse's MicroOs/Aeon as of late.
 

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You can use only security updates on windows wich should make it as stable as Linux distros like fedora (basically using policy's to make windows more ltsc like )
Ltsc is good option.
Which I literally did a couple days ago by locking the version via Group Policies on 23H2, 24h2 is a dramatic chapter of Windows 11.
How? Can you share please. Fedora is winning my trust. After Ubuntu. Thank you.
 
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I have fedora 41, silverblue 41 & Ubuntu and I like / prefer using fedora although it is hard for me to verbalize why. feels good as I hit keystrokes :ROFLMAO:
Linus Torvalds keyboard is only used with that distro so maybe it's the holy grail of distros
But we could only know for certain if you start cursing Nvidia like Torvalds
 
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I really like Fedora with it's SELinux. It covers the defenses of daemons. Too bad it doesn't cover the browser, which is a first line directly attackable vector.
On windows hitmanpro.alert uses SGX as a Trusted Execution Environment to protect the jit compiler wich is more efficient method then V8 sandbox google is using since it's hardware based
so you can harden the jit compiler with SGX for Linux or use V8 sandbox
About sandboxing whole chromium from the system you can either use bubblewrap or selinux

Unlike consumer distros big companies should have not just further sandboxing then consumer distros but have more exploit mitigations just like windows , Mac , android , chrome wich should force an attacker in most causes to have extra bugs in the exploit chain to escape the sandboxing layers and gain privileges but these are usually depending if he uses memory based exploits as mitigations are primally made against memory based exploitation

But some hackers are just too good like qwertyoruiop who I remember years ago jailbroken the latest iOS at that time without using a single memory corruption based overflow to get root privileges

as long as you aren't hunted by some actual professional hacker then you shouldn't need to further sandbox vectors like browsers other then what fedora does by default and chrome does by default
Most likely malware will get in your system by some malicious git repository you have used and not from exploitation of the browser as thats targeted only by advanced apt
 
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I really like Fedora with it's SELinux. It covers the defenses of daemons. Too bad it doesn't cover the browser, which is a first line directly attackable vector.
I'm sure you know more about selinux and browsers than me. chatgpt either said it's giving me some browser protection or implied that. In Silverblue I have 2 flatpak browers that run in their own containers with selinux but I currently do not recall the name of that "sandbox" Vitali reminded me above "bubblewrap"
 
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I'm sure you know more about selinux and browsers than me. chatgpt either said it's giving me some browser protection or implied that. In Silverblue I have 2 flatpak browers that run in their own containers with selinux but I currently do not recall the name of that "sandbox"
Flatpack uses bubblewarp but anyway it should be enough as the browser itself is sandboxed
 

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How? Can you share please.
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I can't guarantee that's how it works, but that's ChatGPT's advice, I've also paused for updates for two months for now. :)
 

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chatgpt either said it's giving me some browser protection or implied that
firejail does it better. You can use the firefox-common.profile of the Fortified Ubuntu 24.04 hardening.PDF on fortifiedubuntu.org. The profile mentions apparmor, but it will work without it. For example while the SELinux allows firefox to see the whole /etc directory, firejail only allows it to see a limited subset of files. There are many restrictions laid down in that firefox-common.profile.

There should be some additional restrictions when you make your Fedora user account use the user_u SELinux user. But I didn't really investigate. One restriction I know exists for user_u is that that account couldn't sudo. I think SELinux defines 3 kinds of users, and user_u is the lowest ranking one. There is a xguest SELinux user which you should get if you install the xguest package, but that doesn't work on Fedora 40 - the installed Guest account can't login, perhaps it only works in Red Hat.

[EDIT] If you implement user_u, firejail will say there is an existing sandbox and run your program Without any firejail protection.
 
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