Advice Request Which VPN protocol do you use?

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HarborFront

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I went to China at the end of April 2019 for 2 weeks ,
i am not sure ExpressVPN had Lightway protocol or not at that time ?

Before this , I sent an email to ask Windscribe's customer service ,
Did Windscribe available in China ?
Customer service reply me , some user report that the IKEv2 seems works some times ,
but they can't guarantee for it .

I also ask them did Windscribe provide SSR or V2ray protocol ? and the answer is no , they don't have it .
to make sure i won't get into the dilemma of disconnection , i decide to chose a well-known VPN service providers ,
and this is why i choes ExpressVPN but not Windscrible before i went to China .

But it's a pity , ExpressVPN doesn't good like Ad says ,
the connection success rate is less than 50% , and the speed and ping are terrible ,
and i do not know what kind protocol ExpressVPN are using ,
because i can't see any description or comment on ExpressVPN's program(APP) ....

Well , this is just my little experience ~ :oops:
In China there are 3 main telcos. The VPN providers are telco-dependent. You need to get the right telco for your VPN

I was in China some years back and I was using ExpressVPN and VyprVPN then. Well...........sometimes you need to change server to get the connection and this happens to both my VPNs. Just don't expect 100% connection all the time unlike in your own country.
 

KevinYu0504

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In China there are 3 main telcos. The VPN providers are telco-dependent. You need to get the right telco for your VPN

I was in China some years back and I was using ExpressVPN and VyprVPN then. Well...........sometimes you need to change server to get the connection and this happens to both my VPNs. Just don't expect 100% connection all the time unlike in your own country.

I agree ~

When i am in China , i had try two different ISP ,
in office , we are using China Telecom(ไธญๅ›ฝ็”ตไฟก)๏ผŒ
at home , we are using China Mobile(ไธญๅ›ฝ็งปๅŠจ) .

But itโ€™s very interesting is ,
two different ISP had a big difference in the restrictions (management) of VPNs .

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The following is my experience at the time,
But because it was in 2019, it may be different from the current situation.

When i am in my office , using China Telecom's broadband ,
almost all VPN can't be connect ,
such as ExpressVPNใ€Windscribe or any other VPN i know ,all failure .

However my friend's company had a branch at Singapore , they provide a private VPN for it ,
Is the only one I successfully connected to the VPN , but do not know what kind protocol they are using ,
only know they are using Cisco's program name call " Cisco AnyConnect " .


Back to my home , we are using China Mobile's broadband ,
when the time comes to 7:00 am to 6:00 pm ,
during this time , no matter which VPN provider you use ,
the VPN service is easy to connect .
The only thing to note is choice the right server , such as Japan or Hong Kong or Singapore ,
speed and Ping are better .

But the freaky thing is , when the time comes to 6:00 pm until next day's 7:00 am ,
VPN connection success rate will be greatly reduced , the VPN that was originally available no longer works at night ,
Even if the connection sometimes succeeds suddenly ,
the speed and ping was terrible , even Youtube 360p cannot be played smoothly .

So i simply gave up and went to sleep , and guess what ?
yes , I got up the next morning and then the VPN can be used normally again ~ :p


it seems China Telecom had a very strict policy limit for VPN ,
but China Mobile seems limited opening VPN for office hours .
But this is just my guess ,
after all , Chinaโ€™s internet policy often changes ,
Sometimes you can sometimes not , you never know , it depends on luck . ๐Ÿ˜Œ
 

CyberTech

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I agree ~

When i am in China , i had try two different ISP ,
in office , we are using China Telecom(ไธญๅ›ฝ็”ตไฟก)๏ผŒ
at home , we are using China Mobile(ไธญๅ›ฝ็งปๅŠจ) .

But itโ€™s very interesting is ,
two different ISP had a big difference in the restrictions (management) of VPNs .

-----------

The following is my experience at the time,
But because it was in 2019, it may be different from the current situation.

When i am in my office , using China Telecom's broadband ,
almost all VPN can't be connect ,
such as ExpressVPNใ€Windscribe or any other VPN i know ,all failure .

However my friend's company had a branch at Singapore , they provide a private VPN for it ,
Is the only one I successfully connected to the VPN , but do not know what kind protocol they are using ,
only know they are using Cisco's program name call " Cisco AnyConnect " .


Back to my home , we are using China Mobile's broadband ,
when the time comes to 7:00 am to 6:00 pm ,
during this time , no matter which VPN provider you use ,
the VPN service is easy to connect .
The only thing to note is choice the right server , such as Japan or Hong Kong or Singapore ,
speed and Ping are better .

But the freaky thing is , when the time comes to 6:00 pm until next day's 7:00 am ,
VPN connection success rate will be greatly reduced , the VPN that was originally available no longer works at night ,
Even if the connection sometimes succeeds suddenly ,
the speed and ping was terrible , even Youtube 360p cannot be played smoothly .

So i simply gave up and went to sleep , and guess what ?
yes , I got up the next morning and then the VPN can be used normally again ~ :p


it seems China Telecom had a very strict policy limit for VPN ,
but China Mobile seems limited opening VPN for office hours .
But this is just my guess ,
after all , Chinaโ€™s internet policy often changes ,
Sometimes you can sometimes not , you never know , it depends on luck . ๐Ÿ˜Œ
Damn that sucks, search for All Things Secured in Youtube, go to his channel, find ''the best vpn for china'' in the videos he talks about China rules and the law...
 

KevinYu0504

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Damn that sucks, search for All Things Secured in Youtube, go to his channel, find ''the best vpn for china'' in the videos he talks about China rules and the law...

I agree what he talk in the video ,
indeed just like his said , It is very common to use VPN in China,
and it's usually safe .

But why we still hear some case that some people using VPN in China ,
and arrested by law enforcement ?

I ask this questions to my China's friends , they told me ,
usually these people use VPN to do some serious illegal things ,
for example , drugs, bombs, harmful to national security ,
Or privately establish VPN services and have obvious illegal acts ,
but most people use VPN just for general use , such as visit Youtube, Google, Facebook ,
it is quite safe .

In " All Things Secured " video , he said his phone was suddenly disconnected from the internet ,
because suspected that he may be using VPN or other apps .
It never happen on me , i using China Mobile's services with VPN for whole two weeks ,
my phone had install many APPs like Skypeใ€Viberใ€Lineใ€Facebookใ€Youtubeใ€Netflixใ€etc ,
and using VPN contact all the time .
And my mobile services had never be cut off ,
but he are using China Unicom's services and living different city ,
maybe that is the different .

By the way , because China is too big ,
there are many province , some of time ,
the different province had different policy ,
even the same telcos , whether the VPN service can be used will have different results .

Back to the protocol discussion ,
after many peopleโ€™s tests , to pass the Great Firewall in China,
SSR and V2ray protocols are still had the highest success rate ,
SSR provides faster speed , v2ray provides a higher success rate but a little bit slower .
 
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Templarware

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Quick question, no need to create a thread.
I have my router running NextDNS. The router has OpenVPN server. If I'm away from home and connect to the OpenVPN server with my phone, will I be using NextDns like if was at home? I don't need the NextDNS app?
 

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