mickel1

Level 1
Some people here are complaining about Windows 10 and always think that it's Microsoft's fault that they have problems with Windows 10.

Maybe for a few of them it is Microsoft's fault but I think that most of the time it's their own fault or maybe the software they've installed on their PC (like Avast caused BSOD a time ago), or it's their PC manufacturer's fault.

Some install all kinds of registry cleaners and driver boosters, etc. and then suddenly Windows 10 stops working. Then they probably also just blame Windows 10.

And if you're afraid that the next update will crash your PC then just defer updates and don't click that "check for updates" button every time you read that there's a new update.

I have an ASUS laptop and never ever had any problems with Windows 10 [knocks-on-wood].

So before you blame Microsoft, first look at yourself and the software you've installed, or look at your PC manufacturer.

And don't install and mix too many security solutions and browser extensions (incase you're wondering why your internet has become slow). Sometimes less is more. The same counts for security.
 
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Janl1992l

Level 13
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Because im addicted to test new software out. Was a big Windows 7 fan, played abit with Windows 10 when it came out to a stable release, never looked back to Windows 7. Faster(on my laptop), Safer, more Functions, and for me personaly, it looks way better than Windows 7. When i miss Windows 7 and install it, it does not take 1 week and im back on Windows 10. old oses are just so outdated in so much things its not worth using them.
 

South Park

Level 1
My beloved Windows 7 laptop died after 7 yr., so I replaced it with a new Windows 10 laptop from the same manufacturer but w/ slightly higher specs. I was surprised to find I like the appearance of 10 better. I also hadn't considered how outdated 7 was securitywise. I've deleted the small amount of bloatware from Acer and tightened the privacy settings, and so far, I can't complain :)
 

uduoix

Level 4
I agree!

Its quite sad because like you said, when you look at the price of an SSD, (doesn't have to be an NVME, even though those came down in pricing) their very affordable, same with ram. Furthermore, these companies get discounts on pricing as they buy them in bulk. When SSD's first came out, yes I can see them not being in every laptop, but now, there's absolutely no excuse. I mean you can buy for a 2.5 512GB SSD for next to nothing now a days. Even the m.2 sata SSDs (not NVME) are just as cheap.

Personally I think it's all marketing. What I mean is, 1TB looks better than 512GB. 1TB SSD's are still a little more expensive, but those are coming down in price too, maybe I'm wrong though. Also all the crappy programs, apps and stuff that all OEMs install don't help either, but MS takes all the blame. Don't get me wrong, MS does create problems for themselves, but it's not always their fault. If you go to any of the OEM's websites and look for drivers, many of them haven't been updated in years. I've gone looking before and all the time I see drivers from 2016, or earlier, nothing newer and it's now 2019. So, I just go directly to the hardware vendor's site to get the most up to date version.
Even slowest SSD is like Ferrari compare to HDD. HDDs are fine for storage and this is it.

I never buy laptop with pre-installed Windows. You never know what you get with it. If im not mistaken, Lenovo installed keylogger on their laptops? Rather buy Windows license for 5 eur on ebay.
 

oldschool

Level 26
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Also, you missed the humor in Spawn's post. It was a not a serious post, he was just listing some of the things that people like to complain about in regards to Windows 10, that aren't actually true.
So very true. @Spawn has been starting these kind of threads lately!

You can make the laptop run faster by doing a clean install of Windows 10 (or even just uninstalling anything you don't want) and as others have mentioned, replacing the hard drive with a SSD. Also upgrading to the maximum of 8GB of RAM would most likely help too. After doing that Windows 10 would be really fast on that computer as its CPU is quite fast. I'm running Windows 10 on some laptops from 2006 which have much slower CPUs and it runs very well.
This was exactly my case with my laptop. It was a W7 HDD 4GB RAM machine with Lenovo bloat, I upgraded to W10 and it was indeed a little slower. Once I got rid of the Lenovo bloat and cleaned up other unneeded junk and jumped to 8GB, it flew like a hummingbird. Then I dropped it and trashed it! :oops::LOL:

Now I'm on another W7 "mongrel" machine with 8GB RAM and a good SSD and it will run even better with W10 on it once it's set up! (y)
 

Overkill

Level 31
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To the members who replied to me...If I open the laptop for an upgrade I void the warranty! I know how to get rid of bloatware on new computers (and I did on my son's laptop), I removed Mcafee and tweaked a ton of settings especially the privacy stuff and it still runs like crap compared to my Asus 4gb laptop that came with Windows 8, and guess what? It was so slow I couldn't do anything so I installed W7 and it runs just fine now! Actually, it responds faster than my son's brand new laptop with W10.
Bottom line... YES, W10 has some good features especially security wise, but I refuse to use it unless I have a high-end PC that can handle it. cause it does have a lot of bloat, crappy updates that do more harm than good and too many privacy issues.
 

roger_m

Level 22
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Bottom line... YES, W10 has some good features especially security wise, but I refuse to use it unless I have a high-end PC that can handle it. cause it does have a lot of bloat, crappy updates that do more harm than good and too many privacy issues.
You do not need a high end computer to run Windows 10. I've got some old laptops (which were released in 2006) which have processors which are about 4 times slower than your laptop and Windows 10 is fast on them. The processor in your laptop is 50% faster than the one in my main laptop and Windows 10 is really fast on it. Also I've upgraded tens of Windows 7 computers to Windows 10 and every time, except for one or two exceptions, Windows 10 ran just as well as Windows 7.

If you did a clean install of Windows 10, I'm absolutely certain that that it would at least as fast as Windows 7 does. As for updates, unless you have major issues with your Windows 10 install, or some security or privacy software is causing issues, they work fine.
 

Local Host

Level 15
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To the members who replied to me...If I open the laptop for an upgrade I void the warranty! I know how to get rid of bloatware on new computers (and I did on my son's laptop), I removed Mcafee and tweaked a ton of settings especially the privacy stuff and it still runs like crap compared to my Asus 4gb laptop that came with Windows 8, and guess what? It was so slow I couldn't do anything so I installed W7 and it runs just fine now! Actually, it responds faster than my son's brand new laptop with W10.
Bottom line... YES, W10 has some good features especially security wise, but I refuse to use it unless I have a high-end PC that can handle it. cause it does have a lot of bloat, crappy updates that do more harm than good and too many privacy issues.
Considering Windows 10 as exaclty the same system requirements as Windows 7, not to mention is more stable and tends to be faster on the long run. I see no logic in using system specs as excuse to remain on Windows 7.

As for warranty, is a nice myth, but your warranty is not void for adding more RAM or changing to an SSD. In most cases laptops already include small opennings to change either, without having to remove the entire cover (exactly for this reason).
 

Raiden

Level 10
Content Creator
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As for warranty, is a nice myth, but your warranty is not void for adding more RAM or changing to an SSD. In most cases laptops already include small opennings to change either, without having to remove the entire cover (exactly for this reason).
+1
Furthermore, most laptops/computer usually only come with a 1 year warranty anyways, unless you bought an extended warranty. I think the only exception to easy access to the ports are those ultra thin laptops like an Asus Zenbooks. Those don't have separate covers, you have to open the whole back to gain access, but even then, if all you did wan swap out the ram or the HDD/SSD, I'm pretty sure you don't void the warranty.
 

oldschool

Level 26
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I've had a few days to get re-acquainted with W7 and though I'm enjoying it, it does not have some of the easy adjustability of features that W10 incorporates. For example, I have Windows Explorer opening on every start/restart. I have found no easy way to do this, with all kinds of conflicting and incorrect info on the web. No solution so far. In W10 this is an easy fix.

I will wait and see about opinions expressed here re: stability issues, etc. like high CPU usage on startup when I upgrade.I was going to wait until 1903 to upgrade but now I am on the fence and may do it sooner. Hum ... :unsure: Any thoughts?
 

show-Zi

Level 17
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I think that what is important is software that can be used. There were parts that were confused when compared to Windows 7, but once you get used to it, there is no problem.

Only for photo editing. If I had Gimp or any strong photo editing software on my Chromebook, goodbye Windows 10. You gave me bugs, broken drivers and malware.
I still use the GIMP 2.6 because I like the UI. Is this dangerous?