Advice Request Why does Iobit have such a bad reputation?

[Kongo]

Windows built in defragmentation doesn't defrag anything... it's always 0% fragmentation, all prefect

It does check weekly, probably that's why u barely notice anything.

 

[Templarware]

It does check weekly, probably that's why u barely notice anything.

Yes, but I also I check manually. 0%. Then I check with Defraggler, and there's a lot to defrag.

 

[Kongo]

Yes, but I also I check manually. 0%. Then I check with Defraggler, and there's a lot to defrag.

Just wanted to let you know that it's outdated. I think in the end Microsoft knows best how to defrag their own OS, that's why I think it's the best option. I currently have O&O Defrag cause I have a license and I don't want to waste it, but I might uninstall it soon. One less program to deal with.

 

[Templarware]

Just wanted to let you know that it's outdated. I think in the end Microsoft knows best how to defrag their own OS, that's why I think it's the best option. I currently have O&O Defrag cause I have a license and I don't want to waste it, but I might uninstall it soon. One less program to deal with.

I haven't been using it... But anyway, there's not much to update about defragging, it's the same for many tears. We can see the graph with everything mapped, and I can see games fragmented. For exemple, if you uninstall a game then install a new game, it will first fill the location where the previous game was, then when it gets filled, it will continue installing at the end of the drive. Defraggler sees all that, and shows 30%+ fragmentation when Windows built in shows 0%.
Windows built in is just quite limited, that's why it doesn't really defrag much.

 

[mlnevese]

I have a license for the latest O&O Defrag. In the end I uninstalled it as I could notice no difference in day to day operation of my computers. I just let Windows do it now.

 

[roger_m]

For anyone that cares, I've use Ccleaner for years, cleaned my registry hundreds of times, not one issue so far.

It is unlikely to cause problems, but it certainly could. As a result I recommend not using it. It is highly unlikely that cleaning the registry will ever make your computer run faster, or fix any problems. So it's fine to use CCleaner only for cleaning junk files and skip cleaning the registry. If you really want to clean the registry, use a safe registry cleaner instead.

It's only in recent years that is has had issues with false positives. Prior to that it could only potentially cause problems if The scan for Obsolete Software entries was checked.

 

[Digmor Crusher]

It is unlikely to cause problems, but it certainly could. As a result I recommend not using it. It is highly unlikely that cleaning the registry will ever make your computer run faster, or fix any problems. So it's fine to use CCleaner only for cleaning junk files and skip cleaning the registry. If you really want to clean the registry, use a safe registry cleaner instead.

It's only in recent years that is has had issues with false positives. Prior to that it could only potentially cause problems if The scan for Obsolete Software entries was checked.

IMO Ccleaner is the safest registry cleaner. When I uninstall a program I also like to remove any registry entries, I use CCleaner and RegScanner and will also manually check for leftovers. Does it make a difference, probably not for 99% of the time. Only happened to me once about 10 years ago, a Trusteer Rapport registry entry would not allow me to install another security program until I found and deleted it. So until Ccleaner fails me I'll keep using it. I use the portable version blocked with my firewall so it can't call home.

 

[SeriousHoax]

Based on my own experience, these 3 options should be unchecked for CCleaner's registry cleaner. These 3 can be problematic, others are safe.

 

[Digmor Crusher]

Thanks SH.

 

[mlnevese]

Those 3 should be left alone in any registry cleaner. Some of the "missing" DLLs are dynamically created and may lead to a crash if not referenced in the registry, for instance.

 

[roger_m]

IMO Ccleaner is the safest registry cleaner.

It's not. It has minor issues with false positives. There are a few registry cleaners which don't and as a result, will never think that a valid registry key should be deleted. It's possible that there are very rare cases that they may want to delete valid registry keys. But those instances would be exceptionally rare.

My opinion is based on testing registry cleaners on many computers and manually verifying the scan results to see if they want to delete any valid registry keys. Every time I've tried CCleaner in the last few years, it has wanted to delete some valid registry keys. Deleting valid registry keys, won't always cause problems, as you've seen with CCleaner, but it can do.

Based on my own experience, these 3 options should be unchecked for CCleaner's registry cleaner. These 3 can be problematic, others are safe.

I just ran a scan with all categories checked, and got a single false positive from the "Applications" section.

 

[peterfat11]

It cleans so much more junk that once bricked my system.

well idk how but I used it for a long time never messed anything up

 

[Templarware]

Based on my own experience, these 3 options should be unchecked for CCleaner's registry cleaner. These 3 can be problematic, others are safe.
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More than 10 years without ever unchecking that, never had an issue.

 

[SeriousHoax]

More than 10 years without ever unchecking that, never had an issue.

As I said, it's based on my own experience only. The ActiveX feature broke my Windows's ability to detect USB drive once, the shared dll feature once broke 2 Adobe programs and unused file extension feature once broke used file extensions.
Everyone can have a different experience, but this is mine, so I avoid these.
Also, what mlnevese said about the shared dll function is spot on.

 

[peterfat11]

There could potentially be issues if you enable deep scanning, but aside from that, it should never delete any needed registry keys. Years ago the registry cleaner had issues with false positives, but I helped IObit fix the issues. Did the problem happen recently? Did you have deep scan checked?

They are mostly useless, but there are a handful of registry cleaners that are safe to use.

That would be an exceptionally rare occurrence, as it should be safe to use. Wise Registry Cleaner and the registry cleaner in Wise Care 365 have very minor issues with false positives, but the disk cleaner shouldn't delete anything that is needed.

Advanced SystemCare is safer to use than CCleaner, because CCleaner's registry cleaner has minor issues with false positives. But that's only issue if you use CCleaner's registry cleaner. If you just want to clean junk files, then Wise Disk Cleaner is much better than CCleaner (which I've never liked) in my opinion.

Never used the reg cleaner after that

 

[peterfat11]

There could potentially be issues if you enable deep scanning, but aside from that, it should never delete any needed registry keys. Years ago the registry cleaner had issues with false positives, but I helped IObit fix the issues. Did the problem happen recently? Did you have deep scan checked?

They are mostly useless, but there are a handful of registry cleaners that are safe to use.

That would be an exceptionally rare occurrence, as it should be safe to use. Wise Registry Cleaner and the registry cleaner in Wise Care 365 have very minor issues with false positives, but the disk cleaner shouldn't delete anything that is needed.

Advanced SystemCare is safer to use than CCleaner, because CCleaner's registry cleaner has minor issues with false positives. But that's only issue if you use CCleaner's registry cleaner. If you just want to clean junk files, then Wise Disk Cleaner is much better than CCleaner (which I've never liked) in my opinion.

Also, I am even sure if it is safe even now

It wants to clean 150 more keys(and boostspeed's reg cleaner is one of the safest)

Spoiler

 

[TairikuOkami]

It wants to clean 150 more keys

Those looks like file associations (if you extend the key), reg cleaners clean those, if you register another app to open files with. It helps to avoid conflicts, but it can de-register file types.

 

[CyberTech]

Also, I am even sure if it is safe even now

It wants to clean 150 more keys(and boostspeed's reg cleaner is one of the safest)

Spoiler

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Just to make sure backup windows OS image if that happens so then restore the image...

 

[peterfat11]

Just to make sure backup windows OS image if that happens so then restore the image...

Ok I will.

 

[peterfat11]

Set of iobit tools