Why I'm a Pirate!

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Why I'm a Pirate! hot topic for you, because me - I'm not pirate, sorry ..


Here: Why I'm a Pirate! : on ploum.net: http://ploum.net/post/im-a-pirate

Quote:
'Dear copyright industry, I'm a pirate. I'm the typical user you are fighting. I'm downloading everything and not giving you one single penny. I don't even attend concert. You hate me and it's reciprocal.

When I discovered high-speed Internet, I was a naive young innocent. I was downloading to discover new stuffs. Whenever I liked something, I would go to the shop and buy the CD. I discovered lot of music thanks to the pirate networks. Randomly or following advices. In the end, I bought something like 200 CDs. The first group I've joined on Audioscrobbler was called "I still buy CDs". But today I regret that.'

'Because you are not offering a good service'
'Because you don't use my money well'
'Because you are messing with my life'
'Because you are destroying the whole society'
'Because your time has come'


OK, and what you think about, guys?..

HACKED PIRATE:

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[Jack]

'Because you are not offering a good service'
Than why are you pirating it?
'Because you don't use my money well'
You aren't their account manager right?
'Because you are messing with my life'
It seems like you were searching for them..and not vice versa
'Because you are destroying the whole society'
Then why are you using their software
'Because your time has come'
It looks like you are helping them to instead on 'killing' them




Let me make it clear piracy is something that should not exist in perfect world but our world is far from being one.
Piracy is a world-wide phenomenon , it's a reality and it can't go away very easily because most of world is still living in poverty.For instance in my country the average income for a person is around 400$/month ....yes... that little..... Now if we consider the fact that this person needs to eat, pay his bills and buy some cloths , it's easy to see why he will prefer to download a movie or software from the internet instead of paying $50.... This is far from being an good excuse but it's the main reason why people resort to piracy.
Governments allow it because it keeps the people happy, developers tolerate it or try to stop it but never seem to succeed and people love it because it makes them happy.
It's very important to be noted that piracy is directly linked to malware...Infected keygens or cracks are without no doubt the main source of infections so watch out pirates....

 

[Valentin N]

Let me make it clear piracy is something that should not exist in perfect world but our world is far from being one.

Piracy is a world-wide phenomenon , it's a reality and it can't go away very easily because most of world is still living in poverty.For instance in my country the average income for a person is around 400$/month ....yes... that little..... Now if we consider the fact that this person needs to eat, pay his bills and buy some cloths , it's easy to see why he will prefer to download a movie or software from the internet instead of paying $50.... This is far from being an good excuse but it's the main reason why people resort to piracy.

Governments allow it because it keeps the people happy, developers tolerate it or try to stop it but never seem to succeed and people love it because it make them happy.
It's very important to be noted that piracy is directly linked to malware...Infected keygens or cracks are without no doubt the main source of infections so watch out pirates....

Well said. Many also spend their money on what they think it's worth spending the money. Some also thing why should I pay when I can get it for free. For instance movies, you will probably only look at it 1-3 times, is the movie worth the money if you only look maybe once or twice? the answer is no

 

[Prorootect]

@Jack,

QUOTE:
' 'Because you are not offering a good service'
Than why are you pirating it?
'Because you don't use my money well'
You aren't their account manager right?
'Because you are messing with my life'
It seems like you were searching for them..and not vice versa
'Because you are destroying the whole society'
Then why are you using their software
'Because your time has come'
It looks like you are helping them to instead on 'killing' them '

Jack, very good responses, I'm with you.

@Valentin N,

QUOTE:
'is the movie worth the money if you only look maybe once or twice?'

I respond: no. But if I take something that does not belong to me, then this is called theft. By definition.
Whoever steals, it is called a thief, by definition. Do I understand it right ..

Lately - movies, television - this does not interest me at all. I prefer to live myself, and not waste time looking the actors in movies = those who tell the stories, not true. True - is that life. My life and other people around me, I see with my eyes - and they too can see me.

I see you I see you
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[Valentin N]

@Jack,

QUOTE:
' 'Because you are not offering a good service'
Than why are you pirating it?
'Because you don't use my money well'
You aren't their account manager right?
'Because you are messing with my life'
It seems like you were searching for them..and not vice versa
'Because you are destroying the whole society'
Then why are you using their software
'Because your time has come'
It looks like you are helping them to instead on 'killing' them '

Jack, very good responses, I'm with you.

@Valentin N,

QUOTE:
'is the movie worth the money if you only look maybe once or twice?'

I respond: no. But if I take something that does not belong to me, then this is called theft. By definition.
Whoever steals, it is called a thief, by definition. Do I understand it right ..

Lately - movies, television - this does not interest me at all. I prefer to live myself, and not waste time looking the actors in movies = those who tell the stories, not true. True - is that life. My life and other people around me, I see with my eyes - and they too can see me.

I see you I see you
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true but not if you see it on youtube

 

[Deleted member 178]

The pirated companies should chase piracy dealers instead of piracy users.

 

[HeffeD]

The pirated companies should chase piracy dealers instead of piracy users.

So the user should be able to steal whatever they want? It is only the supplier that should be considered guilty? That doesn't make any sense at all...

If a user downloads something for free when they know it actually costs money to purchase, then they are guilty of theft and should be prosecuted.

The only instance in which a user shouldn't be held accountable is if they weren't party to the theft. For example, a shop that copies OS disks and sells them to customers as a genuine product. (Microsoft sued a shop in the UK for doing this recently) Buying something that you thought was legal only to find out later it is not, is not the fault of the user.

 

[Dejan]

I can't walk into a local store and buy something like most people can in other countries, so I just pirate it all.
Also, replying to what the guy above me posted, if there is no one to distribute pirated content, then how would users pirate it. Most do it from sites that offer the content, so I think you get the point.

 

[HeffeD]

Also, replying to what the guy above me posted, if there is no one to distribute pirated content, then how would users pirate it. Most do it from sites that offer the content, so I think you get the point.

You don't need the internet to pirate something.

 

[Hungry Man]

Pirating is a matter of convenience not money, at least for most people I know. "Ugh, Netflix is being slow, I'll just watch it on XXXX site."

 

[MrXidus]

Ah such a controversial topic to discuss. Many opinions to go around, And many that will clash...

Let the discussion continue.

Let's not confuse piracy with plagiarism.

I can relate heavily to this, Australian DVD's from the video store are full of this junk, often more then what this picture shows. I can see the benefit of pirating.

Some movies that show in EU/US movie cinemas don't come to Australia for often a month later.
For those who have a choice and refuse to wait such a ridiculous amount of time, Will most certainly pirate, I don't blame those who do.

 

[Gnosis]

I have trouble feeling sorry for upper tier income earners in the entertainment industry. I have much more love for my European pals that punk 'em out. The U.S. gov't is irritated because they cannot control what Europeans do from Edinburgh to Moscow. It is a nice slap in the face to remind the status quo politicians that they are not gods. Our gov't took out Capone and all of the other organized crime syndicates so they could become the ultimate super syndicate. Now they have to start all over, and their crony contributors in Hollywood are just as powerless.

My gov't needs to concentrate on solutions pertinent to who is hacking drones and landing them safely in rogue micro regions, and important National Security aspects of that nature. We are being micromanaged and concurrently taxed into oblivion while energy prices skyrocket. The U.S.A. has the ability to single-handedly stabilize world energy supplies and world currencies with policies that make sense and that are relative to extraction and refinement of natural gas and crude, and oil refinery and nuclear power plant construction. Instead we are worried about pirates, and not the ones that are taking people hostage every day and holding up shipments, or stealing entire shipments of goods that are necessary for the human race to have a means of basic survival (not entertainment based perks). Until our gov't implements some meaningful legislation that frees up domestic energy production to record levels, I could not possibly care less about internet piracy. It is punishment for all of these annoying reality shows that employ wealthy spoiled brats, and the plethora of biased televison media outlets that propagate all of the disinformation and utterly useless audio spam.

I am going to do like every other charlatan and pitch a gripe on the national stage about something ridiculous so I can get my "book deal" or start my acting career. That way I can join the "STOP PIRACY" crowd and begin my devious, stealthy, and sinister assault on the free markets and private sector. I will top it off with a little of that "man made global warming" scare and tax tact, and be a kingpin like Al Gore, Nancy Pelosi, Baraba Boxer and the like.

The gist: SOPA legislation IS NOT going to fix our energy and currency crisis, it is only going to further the Federal Government's agenda to further oppress the significant earners and entrepreneurs that are the spokes and hubs of our economy. The Government has it out for the internet. It is the modern moonshine of the world. They cannot tax/regulate it and it is driving them crazy. While they are saying, "Let them eat cake!", we are saying, "It's the economy, STUPID!"

My advice for the Federal Gov't: NATIONALIZE STARBUCKS, AND LEAVE THE REST OF US ALONE; make some biodegradable coffee cups out of our soon to be worthless currency and eat wormwood.

 

[HeffeD]

Let's not confuse piracy with plagiarism.

I was wondering when this would pop up...

Theft is defined as the act of stealing. Stealing is defined as taking the property of another. It does not matter if there is no physical product to steal. This is where the concept of intellectual property comes in. (Note the word property there) Yes ladies and gentlemen, intangibles can be considered property! Property which can indeed be stolen.

The theft part comes into play when you deny the vendor the cost of the product by copying it and using it for free. This is as good as physically stealing a product, and indeed is viewed as being the same legally. Either way, the vendor does not get the money for the product you have just acquired illegally.

It's a bit of a weak argument to say that nothing was stolen because you haven't deprived the property owner of selling the product again. If what you've stolen was indeed nothing, then what is it that you are using on your computer? Does it not take up space on your HDD? (or external storage media)

Doesn't that sound suspiciously like you are now in possession of something that you didn't have before, that you were supposed to have paid for? Sounds just a bit like theft, wouldn't you say?

 

[Nathan Wootton]

Tbh people who use torrents shouldn't be labled pirates specially if they make no money using torrents, only those people who download films games and apps and purposely sell them should be called pirates because they are actually pirating and are gaining from it and costing the industry money, not some spotty little 10 year old who uses torrents for his own pleasure,

my opinion in short those who download and sell for there own benefit are pirates, everyone feels different about this subject, this is just my view of it so don't try to argue against it. i wont be listening

 

[LochNess]

JMO... the 'pirating' of another's intellectual property is nothing more than 'digital shoplifting'... we may use other terms to describe it or apply convoluted logic to justify it but it's still the same 'ole thing'... theft

Again, JMO

 

[Gnosis]

When it comes to songs that are the biggest hits, you hear them immediately on the radio without paying a dime out of your pocket. When it comes to the biggest and most popular movies, you eventually are able to see them on local channels without paying a dime out of your pocket, and you can watch the rest of them a year or two later on basic cable for less than a dollar when you factor in your cable bill and all that it allows you to view besides those movies. You can always go to the store and spend 12 to 18 dollars per dvd for movies that have been out over a year. Yeah, right.

It is all about the DNC's love affair with Hollywood political contributions:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Dodd

Dodd's post-Senatorial career is as follows:

In February 2011, despite "repeatedly and categorically insisting that he would not work as a lobbyist,"[22][23] Dodd was identified by The New York Times as the likely replacement for Dan Glickman as chairman and chief lobbyist for the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA).[24] The hiring was officially announced on March 1, 2011,[25] with his salary estimated at $1.5 million per year. [26]
On January 17, 2012, Dodd released a statement criticizing "the so-called 'Blackout Day' protesting anti-piracy legislation."[27] Referring to the websites participating in the blackout, Dodd said, "It is an irresponsible response and a disservice to people who rely on them for information and use their services. It is also an abuse of power... when the platforms that serve as gateways to information intentionally skew the facts to incite their users in order to further their corporate interests."[27]

 

[Gnosis]

When piracy begins to affect LOWER and MIDDLE tier Hollywood laborers, I am not going to shed a tear either. Most of them are probably illegal aliens. If they are not, I still don't really care. Politicians like Chris Dodd have allowed illegal aliens to plant their roots deep in our nation and leach off of health care while not paying any taxes. According to politicians, Democrats and Republicans alike, these illegals were to "do the jobs that Americans won't do". Well guess what, I would have done some of those jobs but it is too late now because 20 million positions have been filled by people that are in the Lower 48 illegally. Once again the Federal Gov't is attempting to convince us that piracy, or redistribution of copyrighted video and audio in some form is more serious than 30 million illegal immigrants being allowed to stay. It is the same kind of nonsense they pulled by putting Major League Baseball players before Congress. It is just another nonsensical distraction from the real problems we face and deal with every day. Until our elected representative start leading by example, they can go jump off a bridge. Maybe they will find the bodies of many politicians' mistresses while they are down there.

I don't want you all to misunderstand my thoughts. I AM NOT condoning the act of illegally or unethically redistributing audio and video for a profit. I AM condoning the opportunity to catch a good flick or basketball game via my PC without jumping through hoops or paying money that I don't have, or would simply rather save.

 

[Prorootect]

@ZOU1,

Quote:
'.. is attempting to convince us that piracy, or redistribution of copyrighted video and audio in some form is more serious than 30 million illegal immigrants being allowed to stay. .. It is just another nonsensical distraction from the real problems we face and deal with every day.'

I quite agree with you. That people are starting to realize and deal with real problems around them!
Those who lose their lives to watch TV and movies and listening to music on the length of the day, all their lives - are like ostriches putting their heads in the sand. But the reality behind them follow. It is exactly this, what do governments in many countries around the world to calm the real needs of people.
While some people happily wake up, see 1989 in freeing itself from communism, most recently in trying to liberate the Arab countries. But those who want the power act quickly and in secret, by diverting the real people finally revolted mounds - pity! ..

Meeting of politicians:

If the government is responsible only to fill his pockets at the expense of people, then the people will not move forward (Highway Moscow - Yakutsk here):

.. and also here:

People who care to watch TV, films, non-real world:

.. I create a stress free world for myself. I feel more and more secure each day:

So this little link: Citizen Ostrich: by mycommunityworks.com: http://www.mycommunityworks.com/Evolution/rEvo2/Ambiv/ambiv.html - This read is very good, but on this site I find other articles or thoughts I'm not agree. I see this site mixes truth and not truths .. or controversial statements.


Yes, that's all. For now.
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[Gnosis]

Your post and portrayal resonates with me. While governments continue to allow infrastructure to decay (road, bridges, water and sewer, energy sources)that law abiding and tax paying citizens rely upon, they must support SOPA so traditional entertainment industries can remain wealthier than ever as to be able to produce more pseudo comfort for the suffering citizen in the form of music, television and movies. All the while corrupt politicians can enjoy record kickbacks from the entertainment industry that will guarantee re-election thus satisfying the Beast.

That said, skyrocketing air-conditioning related utility bills in the summer could cause all of this to backfire on the Beast. Take away video games after that and it is all over.

 

[Prorootect]

I fully understand this language, thank you ZOU! - the Beast .. It's corrupt politicians that 'produce more pseudo comfort for the suffering citizen in the form of music, television and movies.'
Because 'entertainment industries' are in the pay of politicians.:idea: