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[ForgottenSeer 97327]

It is good fun reading all those well intended advices and fiercely advocated products.

The problem is that they all differ and hardly ever point to an unanimous solution.

So although the level of information increases the level of confusion also rises.

To make it even more worse, I will also add to the confusion by giving this advice:

Beware strong opinions are often based on weak arguments

 

[Moonhorse]

Companies that buy various products and antivirus to me are monopolies. I prefer companies that focus more on their products than buying similar antivirus or ones that add nothing to the company. One thing is to buy a different product, another is to buy the same products that add nothing but monopolies.

And then we have the false marketing of features in free versions, there was even sale of customer data in free versions.

Again, this is not a topic of conversation. It's my opinion (I'm not changing it) and I respect anyone who thinks otherwise. But I don't.

Fair enough... i get what you mean, used to use AVG back in days before avast bought them

I still find avast/ avg as honorable product, even many dislikes them wich is understable

 

[Shadowra]

I think if you are programmer or if you reverse engineer, I don't think you need an answer. Any hacker who knows how to program decently can easily fool Windows Defender.

This is just a summary, it's my opinion. Some people still don't think so, maybe they don't know the blackhat side that well. It's because most forums are inunandos with Windows Defender bypass techniques, and Windows Defender is a joke when it comes to that.

But Norton, need we say much? It's been going downhill for a long time now, people only use it because it's usually installed on some brand's operating system, otherwise it would be a disaster. And it is

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For me it's not even a topic of conversation. I respect other people's opinions, but I'm not going to change mine.

This is not wrong for Windows Defender, which is why I don't use it (even if the antivirus has evolved well, it is easily bypassed, even too easily)

Norton again has evolved well. It's just their policy of forcing people to buy it that I hate (McAfee is the same)

 

[windows1064]

Just don't use any shitty from Windows Defender, AVG / Avast (are the same company), McAffee and Norton and you will be better safe than that.

Consider only those reliable security products: Emsisoft, GData, BitDefender, ESET, Kaspersky and avoid the rest if you want quality.

While I can understand why you don't like avast/avg/notron (privacy), why don't like MD?
btw, I wouldn't touch kaspersky even if they pay me. Russia is totalitarian country, their government interfering in every industry. Last years many kaspersky specialists were replaced by former kgb/gru agents. Eugene Kapspersky is ''former'' kgb officer.
Since Putin is in charge more than 150 journalists were killed in Russia. This is a fact.
Antivirus is deeply integrated in OS. Antivirus apps are closed source. They have access to any of your files and data. I'd rather infect my computer with ransomware than install a Russian security app.

 

[Chipicao]

This is not wrong for Windows Defender, which is why I don't use it (even if the antivirus has evolved well, it is easily bypassed, even too easily)

Norton again has evolved well. It's just their policy of forcing people to buy it that I hate (McAfee is the same)

I know that, that's obvious all antivirus can be fooled. But ESET, Kaspersky, BitDefender, Emsisoft, GData have a harder time doing it than the rest. I know what I'm talking about, just go to "hacking" forums and be aware of the subject.

It is not a topic of conversation, because you have your opinion and I have mine, we will not reach a consensus. So it's not debatable (it is for those looking for a solution)

While I can understand why you don't like avast/avg/notron (privacy), why don't like MD?
btw, I wouldn't touch kaspersky even if they pay me. Russia is totalitarian country, their government interfering in every industry. Last years many kaspersky specialists were replaced by former kgb/gru agents. Eugene Kapspersky is ''former'' kgb officer.
Since Putin is in charge more than 150 journalists were killed in Russia. This is a fact.
Antivirus is deeply integrated in OS. Antivirus apps are closed source. They have access to any of your files and data. I'd rather infect my computer with ransomware than install a Russian security app.

Windows Defender is one of the easiest to bypass as I said earlier. In all products it is possible to cheat and bypass them, but there are degrees of difficulty. This is the point that many do not understand.

The ease with which you can cheat.... Can you cheat almost anyone? Yes, but there are difficulties because of the method of detection, because of disinfection.

Have you ever seen a disinfection just like Kaspersky in Windows Defender? Not even seen it.

These are opinions and opinions reflect themselves, if I pay for a product it has to be top notch with top notch features.

And I won't even talk about the amount of computers that arrive at computer shops with Windows Defender active and updated and full of crap like PUA that Windows Defender barely detects, but solutions like ESET, GData among others already do.

But this is me, as I said I do not change my opinion. Because I base it on facts I have seen and not on stories told.

 

[Moonhorse]

kaspersky specialists were replaced by former kgb/gru agents. Eugene Kapspersky is ''former'' kgb officer.
Since Putin is in charge more than 150 journalists were killed in Russia. This is a fact.
Antivirus is deeply integrated in OS. Antivirus apps are closed source. They have access to any of your files and data. I'd rather infect my computer with ransomware than install a Russian security app.

I have russian family members , and im running kaspersky currently on my main desktop. Somehow it works better than f- secure, my national antivirus. Should i be worried? Not at all , antivirus companies arent tied to goverment. I dislike my country ( finnish) for many reasons but it has nothing to do with the antivirus that comes from specific country really..

 

[Kuttz]

-I would keep at least 20 foot distance from Bitdefender Total Security. Its clumsy and buggy for many for some its ok ok. The only good aspect about Bitdefender solutions is its strong behavioural protection in all other aspects it is a NO product from my experience.

- ESET Internet Security is the one I would recommend. It offers comprehensive protection and extremely light weight on system. Kaspersky solutions is also equally good.

 

[Chipicao]

-I would keep at least 20 foot distance from Bitdefender Total Security. Its clumsy and buggy for many for some its ok ok. The only good aspect about Bitdefender solutions is its strong behavioural protection in all other aspects it is a NO product from my experience.

- ESET Internet Security is the one I would recommend. It offers comprehensive protection and extremely light weight on system. Kaspersky solutions is also equally good.

At least Bitdefender didn't refuse to add fraud, phishing or scam PDF in their update to protect customers from it, other few antivirus refused and said nothing.
Even if is clear that is fraud

You can tell whatever you want, but you should take a look in this example (note some antivirus very well know refused to added or saying that isn't "malicious" or doesn't contain "bad intentions" which is clearly false and is very clear that is fraud which some refuse.

Anyway, just take a look with your own eyes.

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The issues you have report in forum or support, even if they don't do nothing, they might change in near future.

 

[Black Wings]

Hi guys

BD is giving problems on my Android devices, exactly in Web protection. So I will try a new AV.
F-Secure, Eset, Emsisoft are a bit expensive for me, so I will try another one, surely GData, as I have read you guys and Norton-Avast-AVG don't seem to your liking.

Another option I have in mind is Trendmicro.

Thanks

 

[SeriousHoax]

BD is giving problems on my Android devices, exactly in Web protection. So I will try a new AV.

I don't use it on my Android phone but got a license for it. Can you explain the issue you faced? I'll try to reproduce and report back to BD.

 

[Shadowra]

Hi guys

BD is giving problems on my Android devices, exactly in Web protection. So I will try a new AV.
F-Secure, Eset, Emsisoft are a bit expensive for me, so I will try another one, surely GData, as I have read you guys and Norton-Avast-AVG don't seem to your liking.

Another option I have in mind is Trendmicro.

Thanks

Trendmicro is a product that I like very much for its simplicity and it is very effective. I have a test of Trendmicro planned for later this week

 

[Black Wings]

I don't use it on my Android phone but got a license for it. Can you explain the issue you faced? I'll try to reproduce and report back to BD.

Hi, thanks for replying

Web protection is disabled
on some Android devices, I guess it is because of the Android version, as it happens to me on older systems.

There is a BD support page that shows how to fix it, but it just doesn't work.

 

[upnorth]

BD is giving problems on my Android devices, exactly in Web protection. So I will try a new AV.

Sad to hear you got issues with Bitdefender and is dropping it, but fair enough as your the customer/user and it's always your prerogative.

No matter what other AV you will try, I do hope you got a personal contact in a PM ( private message ) with @SerialCart .

 

[Black Wings]

Sad to hear you got issues with Bitdefender and is dropping it, but fair enough as your the customer/user and it's always your prerogative.

No matter what other AV you will try, I do hope you got a personal contact in a PM ( private message ) with @SerialCart .

Thanks, you are very kind

 

[Black Wings]

Trendmicro is a product that I like very much for its simplicity and it is very effective. I have a test of Trendmicro planned for later this week

Thankd, I'll keep an eye on it

 

[Black Wings]

Sad to hear you got issues with Bitdefender and is dropping it, but fair enough as your the customer/user and it's always your prerogative.

No matter what other AV you will try, I do hope you got a personal contact in a PM ( private message ) with @SerialCart .

 

[Black Wings]

@SerialCart has made a very good offer on F-Secure 10 devices and I am installing it right now.

Thank you all for your advice and participation.

 

[Jengo]

Bitdefender TS. Install and forget.

Have to change my answer. I switched to Norton360, after talking on the support chat to Bitdefender regarding the parental control app and the nasty bug in it, they told me they will not fix this issue for now, if more issues appear, maybe they will. For me this is not a satisfying answer so i switched AV.

 

[Mali HG]

Kaspersky or Eset. I have licenses for both currently, but I'm using Eset Smart Security Premium atm. Zero issues.

 

[LDogg]

From my own experience as I've tried them all, I would say F-Secure. 100%.

~LDogg