Advice Request CCleaner trust poll

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Will you continue to use CCleaner?

  • Yes

    Votes: 60 47.6%
  • No

    Votes: 43 34.1%
  • Yes, but now with delay and doubt

    Votes: 26 20.6%

  • Total voters
    126
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ForgottenSeer 58943

I had a lifetime key for many years and swore by this product, after they sold I uninstalled and went to the Cybertronsoft solution
"Privacy Eraser" and have not looked back, I think you can guess what I voted ;)
I use it for the automated browser cleaning, which is what I used Ccleaner for.
Link: Privacy Eraser: 1-click browsing history deletion, PC optimization & more
From one Ex-Ccleaner fan to another, try this and you will thank me. PeAcE

Bro, this is a great find!

I've tested this for the last couple of hours. Literally the ONLY thing this does once installed is check for an update on launch to;

www.cybertronsoft.com/download/privacy-eraser/update.xml

Absolutely no telemetry, random net sessions, nothing. If you disable update checks on launch it doesn't even do that. It's completely self contained from what I can tell and very efficient.
 
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ForgottenSeer 55474

Hello, People, I trust piriform, always have always will, and I was lucky that my two systems (w. 8.1 & w. 10 home) both are 64 bit.:)
 
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uninfected1

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There's no way I would feel happy continuing to use CCleaner after this so I've uninstalled it. I'll give privacy eraser a go (thanks for the link cyberghost!).

I seem to recall CCleaner came top in a poll on here not that long ago for the best free non security program. Somehow I don't think it would come anywhere near top if that poll was held today.
 
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Venustus

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An old article but worth reading:
Speed test! Five PC clean-up utilities: Do they really work?
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And:
PC Cleaning Apps are a Scam: Here’s Why (and How to Speed Up Your PC)
(Not related directly to CCleaner)
 
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Parsh

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Nice.
thanks , due to links it seems also 64 bit version was infected?:oops:
"The 32-bit trojan is TSMSISrv.dll, the 64-bit trojan is EFACli64.dll."
What that section says (on the Talos page, not the other blog):
Stage 2 Payloads
The stage 2 installer is GeeSetup_x86.dll. This installer checks the OS version and then drops either a 32-bit or 64-bit version of a trojanized tool. The x86 version is using a trojanized TSMSISrv.dll, which drops VirtCDRDrv (which matches the filename of a legitimate executable that is part of Corel) using a similar method to the backdoored CCleaner tool. The x64 version drops a trojanized EFACli64.dll file named SymEFA which is the filename taken from a legitimate executable that is part of "Symantec Endpoint". None of the files that are dropped are signed or legitimate.

Effectively, they patch a legitimate binary to package their malware. Additionally, the setup put an encoded PE in the registry :
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WbemPerf\001
........
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WbemPerf\004
The purpose of the trojanized binary is to decode and execute this PE in registry. This PE performs queries to additional C2 servers and executes in-memory PE files. This may complicate detection on some systems since the executable files are never stored directly on the file system.
According to the above text, the Stage-2 payload ie. GeeSetup_x86.dll downloads/drops a Trojanized 'tool' according to the OS version detected on the infected machine. The 32-bit version of this 'tool' uses a (trojanized) TSMSISrv.dll while the 64-bit version of this 'tool' drops a (trojanized) EFACli64.dll.
So the 32/64-bit is pertaining to the downloaded trojan tool and not Ccleaner.
Since no info regarding CCleaner versions is mentioned, we can assume that the ones in talk are 32-bit CCleaner v5.33.6162 and CCleaner Cloud v1.07.3191 (as shared previously).
 

insanity

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I still trust Ccleaner; those incidents occur from time to time; so if you ditch Piriform today, then later another software gets compromised and you ditch it too and so this never ends. That being said, I'm not a huge fun of PC (and mobile) cleaners, optimizers, boosters, battery savers etc. They are more of a placebo, and sometimes do more bad than good.
 

JakeXPMan

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I feel fine using Ccleaner... I have backups, life is short... and I really like their softwares.
If anything I'm going to try to use more, I want to get Speccy installed again soon.


I always respected Piriform infected or not. I hope they dont lose too much profits.
 
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Cortex

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I think because of the incident it’s safer than it ever was. I wasn't affected by the problem use the Pro version on this PC so happy to use CCleaner. I have a triple lifetime licence for Wise 365 which is pretty good & can recommend it without too much trepidation :)
 
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ForgottenSeer 58943

I think because of the incident it’s safer than it ever was. I wasn't affected by the problem use the Pro version on this PC so happy to use CCleaner. I have a triple lifetime licence for Wise 365 which is pretty good & can recommend it without too much trepidation :)

I wouldn't bet on that. Often compromised programs end up having more compromises later.

Something needs to be said about not using what 'everyone' else is using.. Bigger target.. CCleaner was one of the biggest targets in the world. So the effort to APT/TAO it would pay off. Imagine that effort being expended for something just a few thousand people use?
 
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