New Update F-Secure beta version updates

[CloudyDefense]

guz?????

I fixed that

 

[bazang]

I fixed that

I understood guz.

 

[Lord Ami]

Release 19.9 beta 5 (6.0.1112)​

New features:

• Automatic updates are not run when battery level is critical and power saver mode is on
• Device Protection updates installed from Windows Security Dashboard are shown on Settings UI
• Device Protection updates installation progress (percentage) shown on Settings UI
• Separate VPN system tray icon added when connecting VPN first time. Can be controlled also via Settings UI. Shows current VPN state and can be used for quick access of some VPN features via right-click menu (e.g. turn VPN on/off).

Bug fixes:

• Exclusions missing from scanning report (PBL-13930)
• Killswitch and Automatic VPN protection settings not shown correctly always (PBL-14006)
• VPN shown sometimes as connecting although already connected (PBL-14047)
• Issues for some users with Firefox extension for Password Vault (PBL-13917) (Fix in previous beta was not complete)
• Reset reputation cache button has no effect (PBL-14019)

 

[Lord Ami]

Release 19.9 beta 6 (6.0.1288)​

Important: ARM64 updates have been frozen and if you reinstall ARM64, you will get previous release version (19.8). ARM64 will also show “Not supported” for any new version and refuse to update. This is temporary and ARM64 updates will be allowed again later in the spring.

New features:

• VPN tray icon animation for connecting state
• VPN tray icon locations grouping and sorting

Bug fixes:

• Scan Wizard crash when Pause clicked for scan that is not yet started while Device Protection is still being installed (PBL-13909)
• Possible crash when importing web sites into Websites exceptions (PBL-14041)
• “Updates old“ smart tasks not created (PBL-14076)
• File restored from quarantine cannot be deleted until after reboot (PBL-14166)
• Better visibility of VPN tray icon when colorized taskbar is used (PBL-14084)
• Fix for incorrectly changing location back to previous when turning on VPN via tray icon (PBL-14184)
• VPN connected state change reporting broke until device restart after certain error scenarios (PBL-14045, PBL-13640, PBL-13990)
• Various improvements to connection block logic during Banking Protection (PBL-14174)

Known issues:

• Password Vault has text alignment issues in some buttons

 

[Lord Ami]

Release 19.9 beta 7 (6.0.1481)​

Bug fixes:

• FS Protection, especially Device Protection, broken after using F-Secure Online Scanner (PBL-14201, PBL-14232, PBL-14245)
• VPN loading takes long time after update (PBL-14230)
• VPN stays in loading state if related services not started at system startup (PBL-13996)
• Fix for UI changing location back to previous when connecting VPN (PBL-14262)
• Extension can’t connect after registry cleanup tool used (PBL-14253)

 

[Lord Ami]

Release 25.2 beta 8 (6.0.1641)​

New features:

• Full scan no longer attempts to scan hard drives that have been excluded from scanning

Rather strange naming change. I have not notified any bigger changes so far...

 

[Szellem]

Rather strange naming change. I have not notified any bigger changes so far...

What's the big leap? How did them suddenly go from 19th to 25th? That's quite a leap.

 

[bazang]

What's the big leap? How did them suddenly go from 19th to 25th? That's quite a leap.

Not F-Secure anymore. Avira. Many changes not released to the public.

 

[bazang]

Not F-Secure anymore. Avira. Many changes not released to the public.

I meant to say: "F-Secure has made many changes to the product, but not announced all those changes to the public. The jump from 19.X to 25X indicates a massive internal overhaul of the product."

Want F-Secure to be transparent? Then complain often and loudly on the F-Secure Community forum and send emails to support and the F-Secure corporate headquarters. Otherwise, F-Secure is just never going to tell the truth - which is now the product is Avira with a F-Secure "skin."

 

[Szellem]

Not F-Secure anymore. Avira. Many changes not released to the public.

For now, this is just a guessing game. Avira was part of F-Secure. One of its engines for a few years now.
And the number jump could be an adaptation to the current year!
Some companies have already done that.

 

[bazang]

For now, this is just a guessing game. Avira was part of F-Secure. One of its engines for a few years now.
And the number jump could be an adaptation to the current year!
Some companies have already done that.

Avira is now the complete F-Secure internals. It is visible in the first 19.9 beta where F-Secure developers forgot to "cloak" or "hide" the Avira modules and services. They show in task manager. You can see it in the image posted by another MT member here early in this thread.

You could be correct on the explanation for 25 for year 2025, but there is no doubt whatsoever about what F-Secure is doing. Just wait. You just wait and see what F-Secure releases as the 25.X version. Half the most useful features and settings are now removed (because those features and settings are not present in Avira).

A lot of dedicated F-Secure users are going to be disappointed. Some will drop the product.

 

[Bill K]

Avira is now the complete F-Secure internals. It is visible in the first 19.9 beta where F-Secure developers forgot to "cloak" or "hide" the Avira modules and services. They show in task manager. You can see it in the image posted by another MT member here early in this thread.

You could be correct on the explanation for 25 for year 2025, but there is no doubt whatsoever about what F-Secure is doing. Just wait. You just wait and see what F-Secure releases as the 25.X version. Half the most useful features and settings are now removed (because those features and settings are not present in Avira).

A lot of dedicated F-Secure users are going to be disappointed. Some will drop the product.

I had been using F-Secure for several years, but after hearing about these changes I've purchased an ESET license and made the switch a couple of months ago.

 

[Szellem]

25.2 is out?

 

[Researchspace]

25.2 is out?

Yes

F-Secure 25.2

 

[Jonny Quest]

Avira is now the complete F-Secure internals. It is visible in the first 19.9 beta where F-Secure developers forgot to "cloak" or "hide" the Avira modules and services. They show in task manager. You can see it in the image posted by another MT member here early in this thread.

You could be correct on the explanation for 25 for year 2025, but there is no doubt whatsoever about what F-Secure is doing. Just wait. You just wait and see what F-Secure releases as the 25.X version. Half the most useful features and settings are now removed (because those features and settings are not present in Avira).

A lot of dedicated F-Secure users are going to be disappointed. Some will drop the product.

You have got to read the 25.2 release notes....wow, a lot of changes. Thanks for posting the link @Researchspace.

FSecure Knowledge

www.kb.f-secure.com

And something I've complained about (as well as others) for a while on the forum has been resolved. I may install it on a notebook to check it out (I still have an active subscription for Total).

• A new VPN system tray icon has been introduced for easy access to VPN controls and status. The icon’s visibility can be managed through the Settings UI.

edit: I'm giving it a try (25.2 Total). Low system impact. As far as having @Shadowra test this version, that's up to him

 

[bazang]

You have got to read the 25.2 release notes....wow, a lot of changes. Thanks for posting the link @Researchspace.

I read them and nothing good. F-Secure is now Avira with a F-Secure "skin."

Cannot create allow exceptions for protected folders - which is a problem for someone like me that has a need to do so.
Cannot configure the scan speed - which I want the maximum scan speed. Not the 1 hour low priority scan.
Even the scan report no longer lists missed objects.
I'm certain there is a whole lot more, but as soon as I saw that F-Secure was using all Avira components in the new version, I dropped it. If I wanted Avira, then I would buy Avira.

F-Secure is now nothing more than dumbed-down Avira.

 

[Jonny Quest]

I read them and nothing good. F-Secure is now Avira with a F-Secure "skin."

Cannot create allow exceptions for protected folders - which is a problem for someone like me that has a need to do so.
Cannot configure the scan speed - which I want the maximum scan speed. Not the 1 hour low priority scan.
Even the scan report no longer lists missed objects.
I'm certain there is a whole lot more, but as soon as I saw that F-Secure was using all Avira components in the new version, I dropped it. If I wanted Avira, then I would buy Avira.

F-Secure is now nothing more than dumbed-down Avira.

I agree. A lot was taken away, simplified or as you said, dumbed down. They even simplified the update information (below). Is it because their scanning engine is now completely Avira, or does it help hide when a Capricorn update doesn't happen over the weekend? There had been multiple posts on the forum regarding that one.

• Updates for Device Protection are now grouped under a single update entry.

Scanning engines used. No more Capricorn, Virgo, Hydra etc.

 

[bazang]

does it help hide when a Capricorn update doesn't happen over the weekend?

No it does not but it is what F-Secure wants, which is to remove logging details so that users cannot audit them or use the logs for troubleshooting.

The information that F-Secure removed from the GUI is by no means a burden on the user. But my guess is that F-Secure is following the general trend of "Do not reveal anything to home users because if we do, then they are going to create support tickets."

Capricorn, Virgo, Hydra - I think there were all F-Secure technologies.

It could be that, or more probably since it is all Avira now, the Avira update process does not provide visibility into the various component updates. Same with the Avira scans. They do not have the capability of reporting scan errors and other details.

 

[Sunqfu]

No it does not but it is what F-Secure wants, which is to remove logging details so that users cannot audit them or use the logs for troubleshooting.

The information that F-Secure removed from the GUI is by no means a burden on the user. But my guess is that F-Secure is following the general trend of "Do not reveal anything to home users because if we do, then they are going to create support tickets."

Capricorn, Virgo, Hydra - I think there were all F-Secure technologies.

It could be that, or more probably since it is all Avira now, the Avira update process does not provide visibility into the various component updates. Same with the Avira scans. They do not have the capability of reporting scan errors and other details.

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Capricorn is basically Avira. Virgo and Hydra F-Secure' s own engines.
Hydra: Script based (heuristic) AV engine.
Virgo: Certificate whitelisting engine.
Capricorn: Signature based AV engine.

 

[Szellem]

Capricorn is basically Avira. Virgo and Hydra F-Secure' s own engines.
Hydra: Script based (heuristic) AV engine.
Virgo: Certificate whitelisting engine.
Capricorn: Signature based AV engine.

Are these engines present now? Or over and done with.