Battle GData Internet Security vs GData Total Security

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Cylance died years ago when it was acquired by Blackberry. Pretty much all the original devs left the company and left the home version to die. I still have my lifetime license but Cylance Smart AV doesn't receive updates regularly anymore. So Deep Instinct surely is the better option.
Yeah, I think I used Cylance way back when... & may have transacted with Cyberforce too...??
 

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In any case, few antivirus products are innovative at the moment.
Those who innovated for me in 2023: Bitdefender (with its AI module) , ESET (same as Bitdefender) , Avast which improved Evo-gen and offers Hexadecimal detections and F-Secure which offers an all-in-one solution.

But, there is an antivirus that surprised me the most, it is DeepÎnstinct which was completely unknown and offers a first class solution! But not too easy to use for novices....
So if Avast improves so did it AVG, Norton and all its family?
 

ddave

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Avast is excellent and provides a very high level of protection. One of the few to block the most recent variants of RedLine, SmokeLoader or Snake.
It also blocked artificially inflated files and also blocked an injection attempt thanks to its IDS module :)
Who are the others who do as well?
 

vokeb

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It’s not just the tools, looks like some teams at G Data are not too competent. The software is too branded, too much with its own identity. Users no longer care about your branding nonsense, they want service. G Data is far from the software-as-a-service model, on the website (when you click on the product) they mention “The 2020 edition of G Data”. They still use the editions model.

I don’t see to many reasons for someone to go for G Data and not Bitdefender.

To answer @JB007 — no, these tools are not efficient. They all need a total makeover.
Bitdefender uses way more resources than gdata , gdata has two antivirus enginees and it can be turned off one of it so its a way better product than bitdefender given the more customizabile settings even if the interface looks outdated some people might like it .
The difference between internet security version and total one is not existent but it is between antivirus vs internet security version .
Also the costumer support is way more personal than the corporate replies of bitdefender .
Also bitdefender swears to dont sell to russia but they sell their products still via webmoney an russian company .
Also gdata has no buggy behaviour like bitdefender .
Bitdefender web module tho is way better than gdata but for that you can use traffic light free extension .
The additional tools of gdata are worth it over 10 euro but their mobile security application is subpar compared to the bitdefender one .
 

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Bitdefender uses way more resources than gdata , gdata has two antivirus enginees and it can be turned off one of it so its a way better product than bitdefender given the more customizabile settings even if the interface looks outdated some people might like it .
The difference between internet security version and total one is not existent but it is between antivirus vs internet security version .
Also the costumer support is way more personal than the corporate replies of bitdefender .
Also bitdefender swears to dont sell to russia but they sell their products still via webmoney an russian company .
Also gdata has no buggy behaviour like bitdefender .
Bitdefender web module tho is way better than gdata but for that you can use traffic light free extension .
The additional tools of gdata are worth it over 10 euro but their mobile security application is subpar compared to the bitdefender one .
Bitdefender engine in gdata is outdated, it is not equal to Bitdefender itself.
Bitdefender is not configured because it doesn't need it, everything is maxed out by default. Whether or not they sell Russia is irrelevant.
I have communicated with Bitdefender chat and they respond instantly.
Having "dual motor" does not equate to better detection.
Nor do they have Bitdefender technologies such as Photon, or Bitdefender theta, among others.
Greetings.
 

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I’m Bitdefender uses way more resources than gdata , gdata has two antivirus enginees and it can be turned off one of it so its a way better product than bitdefender given the more customizabile settings even if the interface looks outdated some people might like it .
Yes, GData, apart from Bitdefender claims to be using the following:
The Cloud SDK gives you unique access to our comprehensive malware databases, continuously updated by our analysis systems. You can use the Cloud SDK to query the latest threats or current malware in real time by querying sha256 hash sums or URLs.

Features:​

  • Easy access to in-depth analysis results and extensive databases
  • Real-time protection
Our DeepRay® technology changes the rules of the game by reliably detecting even packaged malware. Supported by machine learning, DeepRay® works particularly effectively to detect potentially harmful or suspicious artifacts in process memory. In this way, DeepRay® can detect even the most sophisticated malware threats, such as “living off the land” attacks.

Features:​

  • Advanced in-memory analysis heuristics
  • IOC in-memory scanning (Yara)
  • Custom rules (Yara)
  • Particularly resource-efficient thanks to machine learning support
BEAST protects you from new and previously unknown malicious software. Unlike traditional behavioral analyses, BEAST records all system behavior in a graph, and therefore provides a holistic view. This allows BEAST to accurately detect malicious processes and stop them immediately. BEAST perfectly complements existing systems and helps them by easily remediating the complete infection chain through powerful graph analysis.

Features:​

  • Holistic behavior detection
  • Behavior graph allows detection of new previously unknown malware
  • Easily remediate the complete infection chain through powerful graph analysis
Use our Anti-malware Next-gen SDK to detect known and unknown malware without a signature with machine learning technologies. Efficient feature extraction and classification optimized for current CPUs make our technology extremely fast and lightweight.

Features:​

  • Malware detection with machine learning and without signatures
  • Fast and lightweight classification
  • Cross-platform (Windows, Linux, macOS)
Ransomware is one of the most aggressive forms of malware that encrypts and/or destroys valuable customer data. Small and medium-sized businesses are often infected by targeted attacks where the ransomware used is specifically designed for the attacked target. Our anti-ransomware technology is a detection system for file system anomalies that detects suspicious behavior and stops and removes ransomware as soon as it interacts with the file system.

Features:​

  • Proactive protection against ransomware
  • File system anomaly detection
Malicious Office VBA macros are one of the major infection routes for malware. For this reason, it is particularly important to have protection in this area. Our AMSI SDK helps strengthen your security solution against threats from Office VBA macros, Powershell, VBScript, or JavaScript in a particularly easy way.

Features:​

  • Easy connectivity to protect against malicious Office VBA macros
  • Easy connectivity to protect against malicious scripts such as Powershell, VBScript, or JavaScript
You can secure the integrity of your system with our tamper protection. Our technology instantly detects and removes malicious changes on your system’s memory, therefore protecting it against highly dangerous threats such as user mode rootkits.

Features:​

  • Protect against user mode rootkits
  • Monitor system integrity
Patented BankGuard technology detects and removes malicious memory modifications in browsers to protect banking and other financial activities from man-in-the-browser attacks.

Features:​

  • Protect against man-in-the-browser attacks
  • Patented BankGuard technology
Thanks to our ExploitProtection, you can protect yourself from unknown zero-day – or unpatched day one exploits. Attackers still regularly discover new vulnerabilities and exploit them to infect systems.

Features:​

  • Protect against infection through security vulnerabilities
  • Prevent the execution of exploits
Source: G Data Official Website for OEM (frequently you can learn a lot by looking at what they offer to OEMs, for home users they won’t provide detailed explanations).

But then Bitdefender provides all these modules as well. Bitdefender offers more modern experience, features such as Bitdefender Central and others.
G Data’s outdated approach runs from the website (like trying to find a changelog) all the way to every corner of the software.
Also gdata has no buggy behaviour like bitdefender .
Bugs have been reported around the web for both.
Bitdefender is normally quite quick to provide the relevant fixes.
 
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vokeb

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Features such as Bitdefender central are a gimmick to introduce endpoint version of their home user products on home users , less money spent on developing an actual home use product , also for iliterate technology an remote central service my bring them security risks .
Part of the buggy experience cause for sure beside the messy ways of romanian programmers style of doing things.
 
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Features such as Bitdefender central are a gimmick to introduce endpoint version of their home user products on home users , less money spent on developing an actual home use product , also for iliterate technology an remote central service my bring them security risks .
Part of the buggy experience cause for sure beside the messy ways of romanian programmers style of doing things.
Just a quick FYI, Romanian programmers have frequently graduated prestige London (and other universities). Whether programmers are Romanian, Azerbaijanian, Russian, German, American, they study and use the same languages, frameworks, Applicable Program Interfaces, systems and logics.

I don’t see any aspect in which the two German-based AVs have over-succeeded. One feels like a product for Windows 95 and the other one was Acquired by NortonLifeLock for a little over quarter of a billion (Avast was valued >8 billion in contrast).
 

vokeb

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Just a quick FYI, Romanian programmers have frequently graduated prestige London (and other universities). Whether programmers are Romanian, Azerbaijanian, Russian, German, American, they study and use the same languages, frameworks, Applicable Program Interfaces, systems and logics.

I don’t see any aspect in which the two German-based AVs have over-succeeded. One feels like a product for Windows 95 and the other one was Acquired by NortonLifeLock for a little over quarter of a billion (Avast was valued >8 billion in contrast).
You should see the romanian it companies doing a bad job developing software in romania maybe especially those done for the public with government money , not sure from where you do your research for the posts.
Not sure why you suddenly talking about avast and avira being bought by norton life lock .
Sure foreign companies with romanian devs wont do the same management style as romanian companies but then again even bitdefender is owned by british funding trusts now but the management is romanian .
They should stop focusing on endpoint style product for home users and selling their enginee or products like gdata are surpassing their product .
 
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Trident

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You should see the romanian it companies doing a bad job developing software in romania maybe especially those done for the public with government money
Software for the public with taxpayer money is always bad, blame the corrupted and hungry governments. We all remember the non-Romanian, fully British Track and Trace for a couple of billion pounds. Bitdefender is a private company and has nothing to do with that.

not sure from where you do your research for the posts
I have personally studied at the University of Bath and it is one of the top 10 universities in the UK. At least 20 people from Romania were my colleagues. Not sure why everything has to be “researched” sometimes people have “experience” as well.
But treat yourself to some evidence you so desire too:
They should stop focusing on endpoint style product for home users and selling their enginee or products like gdata are surpassing their product .
Nobody here is claiming that Bitdefender is the best product and everyone should uninstall what they use to replace it with BD. But G Data is not in any way surpassing Bitdefender. Now if you wanna talk about Norton or something else we may reach a consensus.

Also, talking about management, Bitdefender has retained management and staff for years, unlike many others that changed tens of CEOs from 2001 to now (Symantec and McAfee are the example).
 
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Jonny Quest

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Features such as Bitdefender central are a gimmick to introduce endpoint version of their home user products on home users , less money spent on developing an actual home use product , also for iliterate technology an remote central service my bring them security risks .
Part of the buggy experience cause for sure beside the messy ways of romanian programmers style of doing things.
Bitdefender has been very proactive especially recently in developing its home products line of features. Even though Digital Identity Protection isn't shown as new, it is a newer feature
bitdefender new.jpg


Even with the Mobile Security for Android, and the App Anomaly Detection feature:

And having been there on and off since 2007 in the old forum and new, Trident is absolutely right regarding his two previous posts, including the stability of the management and staff, some of who I know have been there for 10+ years.

And people do love and use their Central accounts, and wish they could do even more regarding remote AV controls and information on other family or friends' installs. Central is not a gimmick, just as My Kaspersky and all that we're able to do from there is not a gimmick.
 

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Alexandru Catalin Cosoi Has been with the company for 18 years, check out his linkedin page.
He is a holder of 2 university diplomas - PhD in Natural Language Processing and Bachelor in Cognitive Systems and Bio engineering. He is very well known amongst the security communities and his work is highly regarded. He was involved circa 2005-2006 in the development of Bitdefender NeuNet and Bayesian filters which were amongst the first spam filters to be based on neural networks and probability theory (more famous today as ML/AI).
 
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