bribon77

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Thanks @BoraMurdar for this thread, I have marked it in favorites.
Of course W10 has too many things, which may be interesting for companies, but for a normal user with an old machine as in my case is too bloated.

Before seeing this thread I have been able to vary the RAM from 40/ 45% to 22% / 27% and up to 30%. For me it's still an exaggeration.:eek:
 

eltrkbrd

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This is one of the best guides I've found for debloating my Windows 10 Pro installs. Besides Shutup10 which has become a staple for me after clean installs, I've never heard of the other tools recommended in this article.

I'm more interested in debloating on a clean install of W10x64 Pro. For this task, Spiceworks Windows 10 Decrapifier can be integrated during intial setup before any accounts are created (OOBE):
Post install, especially for existing installations suffering from bloatware, malware, etc Tronscript seems popular.
My only hesitation with all this (especially scripts that aren't easy to reverse the changes on) is the risk of future updates breaking things and also being over aggressive accidentally disabling basic functionality (for example IMAP email client, VoIP, video conferencing, etc).

I also considered homebrew ISOs narrowing it down to MSMG Toolkit, Win Tookit & Winreducer (I wasn't impressed by Winreducer's geocities interface & incessant ad nags). I decided against chopping up W10 Pro however because of the lack of really decent guides to simplify the entire process, how time consuming it is (would take days to learn & setup) and mostly the likelyhood of future updates breaking things in a chopped install.

In the end, LTSC 2019 won me over as the best of the three options (LTSC, Debloat, Homebrew) and for those not constantly upgrading hardware in say a desktop PC (I don't game) or wanting constant Windows Updates (no thanks, besides critical security updates) LTSC by far in my experience is the better option (and true sucessor to Windows 7 x64 Ultimate), especially for those with limited hardware resources (in my case 4GB RAM/32GB eMMC soldered onto motherboard).

Lastly, if not for those stuck on M$ say because of Office or Adobe products, Linux Mint Cinnamon runs like a dream for me with everything I need out of the box... Honestly, Windows 10 is the end of the line for me, especially now how the technocrats and neoliberals at M$ are moving full speed ahead towards their Windows as a Service... Microsoft aspires to be the world leader as a slavery cloud rental & planned obsolescence devices company.

Again, thanks for sharing!
 
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BoraMurdar

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I'm more interested in debloating on a clean install of W10x64 Pro. For this task, Spiceworks Windows 10 Decrapifier can be integrated during intial setup before any accounts are created (OOBE):
How to clean up a single Windows 10 machine/image using Decrapifier
Thanks for this, will try for sure.
Post install, especially for existing installations suffering from bloatware, malware, etc Tronscript seems popular.
bmrf/tron & r/TronScript
Every single time I tried (maybe 4-5 times) to download the tools it had some server errors and I just couldn't complete the task.

LTSC is by far the most stable and lightest Windows, but home users are not interested in it. So, it's still a rarity, in legal waters.

Linux is being better with every release but some drivers are troubling me. It's a subjective problem with Broadcom and my affinity with DAW software and obssesion with media player funcionality that glued me to Windows.
Maybe it will change in the future.

Also, Microsoft needs scan upon execution option in Windows Defender ASAP. It's a simple implementation but can hugely improve overall Windows performance and responsiveness.
 

Seyyed Akram

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With all respect, please leave Windows alone. One does all types of tweaks and plays with "core" features and then complains a month later that the new windows upgrade failed for some reason, really?! I never tweaked Windows that much and it is running smooth and fast.
 

Spawn

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With all respect, please leave Windows alone. One does all types of tweaks and plays with "core" features and then complains a month later that the new windows upgrade failed for some reason, really?! I never tweaked Windows that much and it is running smooth and fast.
Try and explain that to Paranoid users who strongly believe Microsoft is reading all their private user data when they see the word Telemetry, and from reading others' scare mongering posts into believing companies are all spying on their users.
 

BoraMurdar

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With all respect, please leave Windows alone. One does all types of tweaks and plays with "core" features and then complains a month later that the new windows upgrade failed for some reason, really?! I never tweaked Windows that much and it is running smooth and fast.
Respect both-sided, you didn't read the first post and its notes minutely...
 

Evjl's Rain

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Try and explain that to Paranoid users who strongly believe Microsoft is reading all their private user data when they see the word Telemetry, and from reading others' scare mongering posts into believing companies are all spying on their users.
yeah, it's not really for normal users. However, after applying these tweaks and some other tweaks not mentioned here, Windows can be twice as fast according to my experience with many PCs
our PC is fast but the tweaks simply makes it a lot faster
I don't have any problem with windows but the only thing causing problems is when I use NTlite to trim down windows ISO -> failed to update, unfixable
 

TairikuOkami

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our PC is fast but the tweaks simply makes it a lot faster
Indeed, the best way is to check the number of Threads/Handles, the less, the better, obviously. I also like everything (CPU/Disk/RAM/Network) being calm at idle, no unnecessary activity, it is easy to find out then, if something does not belong, like malware, or just something causing issues.
 

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plat1098

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a month later that the new windows upgrade failed for some reason,
It's great to be able to successfully apply a lot of these tweaks, but it doesn't always pan out. I'd removed Edge.html with the Winaero tweak in this guide and today, I could not get KB4512508 installed, not even via the Update Catalog,. So I had to run a repair-install of Windows. This KB has some Edge-specific changes, and if Edge isn't there, well: Fail.

So yeah. Tweak at your own risk cuz v. 1903 is an unpredictable beast.