Wraith

Level 13
Verified
Malware Tester
In today's world, there is no one program that can give you 100% protection. It has to be a layered security approach starting at the basic level. A password protected BIOS and a well-configured router. Next if one is using windows, it should be strengthened to reduce the attack surface and personally I use syshardener to disable scripts since the home users rarely need them. Then comes the automatic updates which should be turned on to ensure that the OS is up to date. Next comes the browser and the AV software and this depends upon the user, the OS and the PC configuration. Generally I use Chrome with BD trafficlight and ublock origin. As for the AV part it depends. On windows 10, an average user will be safe with Hard_Configurator. On PC's with windows 7, I would choose Kaspersky Internet Security with Trusted Application Mode. In my family PC which runs windows 7, I have Comodo Internet Security and AppGuard.
 

Local Host

Level 19
Verified
I barely download anything, so smartscreen + virustotal would be minimal

For family members i have installed WD, since automatic scans , no nags, simple enough to use and never major bugs ( built inside)

I rather harden browser ( ublock origin, anti-phishing extensions , add bookmarks ( 2 factors if available )

Since neither me or my family members wont torrent anything, anti-phishing is the only thing im trying to focus on..
Exceptions are still not working on WD, a bug that has been there ever since Windows 10 was in Insider Preview.

WD will scan every file regardless of exceptions, which adds a huge delay while opening and debugging software.
 

blackice

Level 12
Verified
Exceptions are still not working on WD, a bug that has been there ever since Windows 10 was in Insider Preview.

WD will scan every file regardless of exceptions, which adds a huge delay while opening and debugging software.
It is definitely not suitable for programmers and advanced users who use esoteric software. They seem to aim to protect the average home user and stop there.
 

alakazam

Level 6
ZoneAlarm Extreme Security. It might be buggy, but it has the only anti-ransomware feature that actually works, from what I've seen in test videos. Also, it has a good firewall and the Kaspersky signatures, so it's a pretty solid security suite.
 

ebocious

Level 4
ZoneAlarm Extreme Security. It might be buggy, but it has the only anti-ransomware feature that actually works, from what I've seen in test videos. Also, it has a good firewall and the Kaspersky signatures, so it's a pretty solid security suite.
Do we know how ZA's anti-ransomware component stacks up against AppCheck? I understand AppCheck is crude compared to the non-free Ranstop, but still effective in the hands of a more advanced user.
 
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alakazam

Level 6
Do we know how ZA's anti-ransomware component stacks up against AppCheck? I understand AppCheck is crude compared to the non-free Ranstop, but still effective in the hands of a more advanced user.
I've never tried AppCheck, but ZoneAlarm has been tested against several ransomware and recovered the files in almost all the situations. However, it will take a lot of backup space on your C drive because the way it works is: it makes a backup folder of all your documents and images, and it locks up that folder, not allowing anything to modify the files except for the PC admin. In case of a ransomware, it blocks it, and replaces any damaged files from your PC with a copy of the ones from the locked backup folder.

Here is a recent test of ZoneAlarm:


However, the security suite as a whole (ZoneAlarm Extreme security) tends to be pretty buggy. On my PC, it crashed for no reason and it was very difficult to uninstall.

So using ZoneAlarm was a mixed experience for me. It does offer good protection, it has one of the best firewalls in existence, great anti-ransomware and the Kaspersky signatures, but the software needs improving as far as functionality is concerned. My rating would be: 9/10 protection and 3/10 functionality.
 

ichito

Level 6
Verified
Content Creator
In today's world, there is no one program that can give you 100% protection. It has to be a layered security approach starting at the basic level. A password protected BIOS and a well-configured router. Next if one is using windows, it should be strengthened to reduce the attack surface and personally I use syshardener to disable scripts since the home users rarely need them. Then comes the automatic updates which should be turned on to ensure that the OS is up to date. Next comes the browser and the AV software and this depends upon the user, the OS and the PC configuration. Generally I use Chrome with BD trafficlight and ublock origin. As for the AV part it depends. On windows 10, an average user will be safe with Hard_Configurator. On PC's with windows 7, I would choose Kaspersky Internet Security with Trusted Application Mode. In my family PC which runs windows 7, I have Comodo Internet Security and AppGuard.
- Sorry guys but for me to much speculation and not enough clear/definite answer.
- According to quote above: of course you are right mentioning about multi-layered protection but in my opinion tehre are some apps that can give user...using stronger and advanced configuration...enough good and comfortable protection that is based on restriction and more granular control. They don't touch browser security features (although not necessary in some cases) and don't play with signatures wich are for me always far away from real threats. If one wanted to ask what can be an example of such app?...I can give the answer
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ebocious

Level 4
I've never tried AppCheck, but ZoneAlarm has been tested against several ransomware and recovered the files in almost all the situations. However, it will take a lot of backup space on your C drive because the way it works is: it makes a backup folder of all your documents and images, and it locks up that folder, not allowing anything to modify the files except for the PC admin. In case of a ransomware, it blocks it, and replaces any damaged files from your PC with a copy of the ones from the locked backup folder.

Here is a recent test of ZoneAlarm:


However, the security suite as a whole (ZoneAlarm Extreme security) tends to be pretty buggy. On my PC, it crashed for no reason and it was very difficult to uninstall.

So using ZoneAlarm was a mixed experience for me. It does offer good protection, it has one of the best firewalls in existence, great anti-ransomware and the Kaspersky signatures, but the software needs improving as far as functionality is concerned. My rating would be: 9/10 protection and 3/10 functionality.
Gotcha. Cruelsister tested AppCheck awhile back; and, although it didn't automatically restore files in the event that they were successfully encrypted, they could still be recovered from the AppCheck backup folder, which also has tamper protection as with ZA.

Of course, AppCheck is not a security suite; its one and only function is to protect against ransomware. In Cruelsister's test, one of the ransomware samples included a backdoor Trojan, and AppCheck did nothing about that. Of course, antivirus could help if it successfully identifies the Trojan, or a decent outbound firewall could stop it from phoning home. So I've been using AppCheck as an extra layer of protection on everything, including systems on which I decided to forego default-deny protection either because the user was a download junkie, or because I didn't expect to be in frequent contact with them. This way, if they did call me because of a ransom message on their desktop, I could remote in, scan the system for persistent infections, and restore the original files.

 
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