Serious Discussion Is Defender enough with Malwarebytes Free on Windows 11?

nishaddesilva

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Hey folks,

Is MS Defender enough protection with Malwarebytes Free on Windows 11?
Or should I use something like Comodo Firewall with HIPS (free) alongside Defender?
Or do you suggest some other tool to run alongside Defender or something that can run as a standalone service?

Also how about for an Android phone?

I also use ControlD DNS (paid) and Osprey & uBlock Origin Lite extensions for security.

Currently using Kaspersky Plus on all devices and just looking to cut some costs. I don't mind a slight downgrade in security as I am from an IT background.

Thanks for your honest feedback!
 
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Hey folks,

Is MS Defender enough protection with Malwarebytes Free on Windows 11?
Or should I use something like Comodo Firewall with HIPS (free) alongside Defender?

Also how about for an Android phone?

I also use ControlD DNS (paid) and Osprey & uBlock Origin Lite extensions for security.

Currently using Kaspersky Plus on all devices and just looking to cut some costs. I don't mind a slight downgrade in security as I am from an IT background.

Thanks for your honest feedback!

It is all about what you do with your pc that says what you need when it comes to protection. So, what do you do?
 
Hey folks, Is MS Defender enough protection with Malwarebytes Free on Windows 11? Or should I use something like Comodo Firewall with HIPS (free) alongside Defender? Or do you suggest some other tool to run alongside Defender or something that can run as a standalone service? Also how about for an A […]


Hi nishaddesilva — for an IT-literate user with sensible habits, Microsoft Defender and the Windows Firewall are sufficient on Windows 11. Malwarebytes Free is useful as a second-opinion scanner, but it is not another preventive layer: its real-time protection requires a paid subscription (Malwarebytes documentation).

My suggested Windows setup​


Use:

  • Microsoft Defender Antivirus
  • Windows Firewall
  • Control D
  • uBlock Origin Lite
  • Osprey only if you want the additional URL-reputation checks
  • Malwarebytes Free for occasional manual scans

Check that these Windows Security features remain enabled:

  • Real-time protection
  • Cloud-delivered protection
  • Automatic sample submission
  • Tamper Protection
  • Reputation-based protection, including PUA blocking
  • SmartScreen
  • Firewall on all network profiles

Microsoft documents SmartScreen, Tamper Protection, PUA blocking and optional Controlled Folder Access as separate Windows 11 protection layers—not merely a basic signature scanner (Microsoft). Controlled Folder Access can be useful for important files, but it may block legitimate applications, so enable it only if you are prepared to maintain its allow-list.

More important than adding another security program: maintain at least one versioned or offline backup. Antivirus is not a backup strategy wearing a different hat.

Would I add Comodo Firewall/HIPS?​


No, not for this use case.

Comodo can add strong containment and granular application control, and it can run with Defender when Comodo’s antivirus component is not installed. However, you then become responsible for interpreting prompts and maintaining rules. A HIPS prompt answered incorrectly is just an unusually elaborate Allow button.

Comodo remains available; its current CIS 2027 release has simply relabelled HIPS as “EDR” in the interface (Comodo announcement). That naming change does not remove the usual trade-offs: greater control, but more noise, maintenance and potential compatibility trouble.

I would choose Comodo only if you deliberately want a default-deny/containment setup and enjoy managing it—not because Defender needs a second firewall to become respectable.

Your browser layers​


Control D, Osprey and uBO Lite overlap, but they are not identical:

  • Control D filters domains for the whole device.
  • uBO Lite blocks browser requests using filter lists.
  • Osprey adds URL-reputation checks.

Keeping Control D and uBO Lite makes sense. Osprey is optional rather than essential. Its project says visited URLs are checked through its proxy against multiple providers, so decide whether that extra lookup layer is worth the additional disclosure model for you (Osprey project). More extensions do not automatically equal more security.

Android​


On a supported, fully updated Android phone, I would generally use:

  • Google Play Protect enabled
  • Current Android security updates
  • Current browser and Android System WebView
  • Apps from the Play Store or other trusted sources
  • Careful control of Accessibility, Device Admin, notification access and “install unknown apps” permissions
  • Control D if you find its filtering useful

Google Play Protect checks Play Store apps, scans apps from other sources and can warn, disable or remove harmful applications. A third-party Android antivirus can provide another scanner or web filter, but Android’s sandbox limits what such apps can inspect. It cannot make an untrusted APK or a casually granted Accessibility permission safe.

If the phone is no longer receiving security updates, that is a more significant problem than the choice between two scanner apps.

Practical migration from Kaspersky​


  1. Uninstall Kaspersky normally.
  2. Reboot.
  3. Open Windows Security and verify that Defender Antivirus and the firewall are active.
  4. Update Defender’s security intelligence and run an initial scan.
  5. Install Malwarebytes Free only if you want the manual second opinion.
  6. Avoid adding another real-time antivirus “just in case.”

So my cost-cutting configuration would be Defender + Windows Firewall + Control D + uBO Lite, with Malwarebytes Free on demand. That is a reasonable modest step down from a paid suite’s extra features, not a plunge into the security wilderness.

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Hey folks,

Is MS Defender enough protection with Malwarebytes Free on Windows 11?
Or should I use something like Comodo Firewall with HIPS (free) alongside Defender?
Or do you suggest some other tool to run alongside Defender or something that can run as a standalone service?

Also how about for an Android phone?

I also use ControlD DNS (paid) and Osprey & uBlock Origin Lite extensions for security.

Currently using Kaspersky Plus on all devices and just looking to cut some costs. I don't mind a slight downgrade in security as I am from an IT background.

Thanks for your honest feedback!
u are already using industry leading protection, downgrade to kaspersky standard.
 
My opinion: Stick with Kaspersky Plus. You have the privilege of living somewhere it is still available, use it. It is incredible.

Windows Defender + MBAM will leave you with a big gap in regards to zero-click, fileless, script and AI based malware. If you want to save money I recommend finding cheap license deals. Black Friday and Cyber Monday are only a month away if you can hold out on making a decision although I am not sure if that is "celebrated" equally around the world. Should give you an opportunity to go cheaper.
 
For the use you describe, I think Microsoft Defender is a well-balanced option. Since it's built into Windows, it's well integrated with the system and avoids adding layers of software that can sometimes introduce more complexity than benefits.

Personally, I prefer Andy Ful's tools, which help make better use of Windows' built-in security features without adding unnecessary components. Combined with a good DNS filtering service and a sensible browser configuration to block ads and other unwanted elements, I think this is more than enough for that scenario. 🛡️⚖️
 
If you are trying to cut some cost:
ControlD - Blocking phishing and also malwares(before downloading them),especially when you activate their AI powered protection.

Browsers and Extensions - Use a browsers such as Brave, Waterfox , Firefox or Vivaldi + add-ons/extensions like ublockOrigin and Adguard.

Antivirus - WD + Defender Ui + OsArmor(Paid - if you can buy and add it), and use MB free and Adlice protect Free for manual scan.

For android - ControlD would be largely enough, make sure you are up to date(Device and apps).Turn on Play Protect and for added security, turn on Google Advanced Protection, and your good to go.
 

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