App Review Kaspersky Premium vs McAfee Advanced

[Zero Knowledge]

Nobody wanted to pay for it. If people don't pay, then eventually the project or software ends up in the trash bin. This is a recurring theme over the years.

Way too many freeloaders that just don't want to pay for software. The end results are predictable.

No it was just a piece of crap that's why it failed. Probably the biggest flop in the last 20 years besides Windows 8. But everyone on security forums was pushing it back then.

Plenty of software has started out as open source or freeware and because it's been good if not great software people have supported it with donations or paid for tiers.

 

[bazang]

Mcafee expected winner especially if a lot of exes are involved.
But it's protection suffers badly if u tests it against scripts worms batch files and fileless malware.

 

[chetuyet.hp]

Do you have test for Emsisoft and Viper?

 

[Divine_Barakah]

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The Norton deal is fantastic. 10 devices for 15 months VPN included.

 

[Divine_Barakah]

Thanks for the test.
Mcafee expected winner especially if a lot of exes are involved.
But it's protection suffers badly if u tests it against scripts worms batch files and fileless malware.
Considering Kaspersky is lazy to put signatures on even the most obvious malware this was bound to happen.

It is always like this here on MT. Every now and then you find a product that takes the crown for some time until it gets replaced by another product.

 

[bazang]

It is always like this here on MT. Every now and then you find a product that takes the crown for some time until it gets replaced by another product.

Most people at MT just want to play with security software. They're not really interested in security because security is not software. It never has been and it never will be.

So many discussions about security software and configurations have beat the dead horse until it was pounded into dust. Now the discussions which are repeats and dead horse do-overs a thousand times just swirl the dead horse dust about.

It's all a complete waste of time and effort for a person whose objective is robust security. For those that want to play with security software and security theatre, this is the place to be.

 

[Divine_Barakah]

Most people at MT just want to play with security software. They're not really interested in security because security is not software. It never has been and it never will be.

So many discussions about security software and configurations have beat the dead horse until it was pounded into dust. Now the discussions which are repeats and dead horse do-overs a thousand times just swirl the dead horse dust about.

It's all a complete waste of time and effort for a person whose objective is robust security. For those that want to play with security software and security theatre, this is the place to be.

Personally, my objective is not robust security. My objective is the sweet spot between security and usability. I did not get my laptop to lock it down. I got my laptop to do my work and study. A mix of common sense, a reputable security software, fast and reliable hardware and a set of productivity tools do the job for me.

But I do like, sometimes, to play with security soft from time to time because members here share their experience and you feel like testing what they share.

My current setup is relatively secure, but more importantly stable giving me the least issues.

Everything can fail be it the security product, or a bad MS win update or even the hardware. That is why I have backups and a spare system to use in case my main system dies. I am not paranoid nor do I waste my time fixing the unbroken. I do hate overkill setups. Moderation is a peace of mind.

 

[bazang]

Personally, my objective is not robust security. My objective is the sweet spot between security and usability. I did not get my laptop to lock it down. I got my laptop to do my work and study. A mix of common sense, a reputable security software, fast and reliable hardware and a set of productivity tools do the job for me.

But I do like, sometimes, to play with security soft from time to time because members here share their experience and you feel like testing what they share.

My current setup is relatively secure, but more importantly stable giving me the least issues.

Everything can fail be it the security product, or a bad MS win update or even the hardware. That is why I have backups and a spare system to use in case my main system dies. I am not paranoid nor do I waste my time fixing the unbroken. I do hate overkill setups. Moderation is a peace of mind.

Robust security does not mean "system lockdown." However, that said, with "system lockdown" 100% trouble-free usability is possible. Millions upon millions of endpoints across the globe have no issues with "system lockdown."

Somewhere over the past decades morons have perpetrated the propaganda (or agenda) that making any system very secure means that it is inconvenient or unusable. Within minutes I can craft a fully locked down system that only causes an issue once every 6 months or so - and the issue can be fixed within a few minutes or less. So there is absolutely no argument based upon any real-world evidence that it is inconvenient nor unusable.

A person's security is dependent upon the software and configuration of their localhost at about the 2 to 3% level. The remaining balance of security, 97 to 98%, lies elsewhere. It does not make one jot of difference what AV or security configuration that most any untargeted user decides to adopt.

At one time MT was a place that was serious about security, with a lot less emphasis upon security software, but then people turned it into a circus of pointless do-over discussions about "What is best AV?" and "Did you see latest AV Test Lab results?" And it became overrun with highly misleading YouTube tester videos, nefarious agendas, and evolved into cheap security theatre tabloid dramas. Well, it's social media and I guess at this late stage there's no separating the two.

Jedem Das Seine

 

[Divine_Barakah]

Robust security does not mean "system lockdown." However, that said, with "system lockdown" 100% trouble-free usability is possible. Millions upon millions of endpoints across the globe have no issues with "system lockdown."

Somewhere over the past decades morons have perpetrated the propaganda (or agenda) that making any system very secure means that it is inconvenient or unusable. Within minutes I can craft a fully locked down system that only causes an issue once every 6 months or so - and the issue can be fixed within a few minutes or less. So there is absolutely no argument based upon any real-world evidence that it is inconvenient nor unusable.

A person's security is dependent upon the software and configuration of their localhost at about the 2 to 3% level. The remaining balance of security, 97 to 98%, lies elsewhere. It does not make one jot of difference what AV or security configuration that most any untargeted user decides to adopt.

At one time MT was a place that was serious about security, with a lot less emphasis upon security software, but then people turned it into a circus of pointless do-over discussions about "What is best AV?" and "Did you see latest AV Test Lab results?" And it became overrun with highly misleading YouTube tester videos, nefarious agendas, and evolved into cheap security theatre tabloid dramas. Well, it's social media and I guess at this late stage there's no separating the two.

Jedem Das Seine

Well not every single MT member is a security expert. I am not an expert and most MT users are not.

But I do agree with you on the youtube tests point.

 

[Zero Knowledge]

The Norton deal is fantastic. 10 devices for 15 months VPN included.

You mean this one Norton 360 Premium: 75GB Cloud PC Backup for 10 Devices (15-Month Subscription) | StackSocial

Looks good but that 2 year McAfee deal is very good. Do you need to activate it straight away like ESET?

 

[Zero Knowledge]

At one time MT was a place that was serious about security, with a lot less emphasis upon security software, but then people turned it into a circus of pointless do-over discussions about "What is best AV?" and "Did you see latest AV Test Lab results?" And it became overrun with highly misleading YouTube tester videos, nefarious agendas, and evolved into cheap security theatre tabloid dramas. Well, it's social media and I guess at this late stage there's no separating the two.

I actually enjoy your sh*t talking posts, you make some very good points when your not trolling. But the tone of the forum has changed over the last few months I agree.

 

[Divergent]

The signal-to-noise ratio is definitely shot. Used to be a garage where people tore down the engine to see how the pistons fired, now it's just a showroom of folks arguing over which bumper sticker looks tougher.

The only heartbeat left in this subnet is the endless while(true) loop of "best DNS?" and ad-blocker config threads. That’s not security architecture, that’s just comparison shopping for digital duct tape. The learning stopped when the ego started compiling.

 

[bazang]

I actually enjoy your sh*t talking posts, you make some very good points when your not trolling.

This is the only kind of trolling that I know how to do:

 

[bazang]

That’s not security architecture, that’s just comparison shopping for digital duct tape.

 

[Sorrento]

The signal-to-noise ratio is definitely shot. Used to be a garage where people tore down the engine to see how the pistons fired, now it's just a showroom of folks arguing over which bumper sticker looks tougher.

The only heartbeat left in this subnet is the endless while(true) loop of "best DNS?" and ad-blocker config threads. That’s not security architecture, that’s just comparison shopping for digital duct tape. The learning stopped when the ego started compiling.

The question is: So why do you keep posting on here?? I can only wonder?

 

[Divergent]

The question is: So why do you keep posting on here?? I can only wonder?

Call it professional masochism. It’s like walking past a car with a grinding timing belt, I could ignore it, but I know eventually that engine is going to eat itself, and I hate seeing good hardware go to waste.

I stay because bad advice isn't just noise, it’s a liability. If nobody flags the snake oil or the reckless configs, some rookie is going to take a three-year-old thread as gospel and chmod 777 their way into a breach. Someone has to hold the flashlight, even if nobody likes what it reveals.

 

[Divine_Barakah]

You mean this one Norton 360 Premium: 75GB Cloud PC Backup for 10 Devices (15-Month Subscription) | StackSocial

Looks good but that 2 year McAfee deal is very good. Do you need to activate it straight away like ESET?

I still have the 2nd Eset key which I still have not activated.

Regarding Norton, I have not purchased it from StackSocial, but if it is a code, it can be stored without any issues.

 

[Divine_Barakah]

Call it professional masochism. It’s like walking past a car with a grinding timing belt, I could ignore it, but I know eventually that engine is going to eat itself, and I hate seeing good hardware go to waste.

I stay because bad advice isn't just noise, it’s a liability. If nobody flags the snake oil or the reckless configs, some rookie is going to take a three-year-old thread as gospel and chmod 777 their way into a breach. Someone has to hold the flashlight, even if nobody likes what it reveals.

What a noble mission! You're a saver man. I don't know what MT would have done without your presence.

 

[Sorrento]

Some of the posts that people chat on here about are just interests, not always to be taken literally, my main hobby is High Fidelity gear because I've grown up with it, people have droned on about it for decades as I know personally, often its a bit of fun, an interest even a distraction usually not to be taken to seriously that's all, often no more? Few if any people have perished asking about ad-blockers & DNS??

 

[Divergent]

What a noble mission! You're a saver man. I don't know what MT would have done without your presence.

Save the applause, I don't have the shelf space.

MT would survive just fine without me, it’d just run a few degrees hotter and leak a little more data. I'm not looking for a statue. I'm just the guy tightening the lug nuts while everyone else argues about the paint job.