Advice Request Keylogging protection not working

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He wants system-wide keylog protection - which HMP.A only provides it for protected programs...

But, of course, for that he needs to use paid SpyShelter or Zemana.
There's no point to buying Zemana Antilogger if the OP is using Windows 10, since many of the features are non-functional on that OS.

He could use Zemana Antilogger Free, which is compatible with Windows 10 and should offer system-wide Keystroke encryption or wait until the stable version of Zemana Antilogger 2 is released and get a trial(if possible)
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hjlbx

There's no point to buying Zemana Antilogger if the OP is using Windows 10, since many of the features are non-functional on that OS.

He could use Zemana Antilogger Free, which is compatible with Windows 10 and should offer system-wide Keystroke encryption or wait until the stable version of Zemana Antilogger 2 is released and get a trial(if possible)
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Actually, if a keylogger has made it onto a system, then it is too late -- the system is compromised.

An anti-executable with Shadow Defender, Rollback Rx or Drive Vaccine\Reboot Restore is better protection in the first place.

Anti-loggers are notoriously unreliable; new keyloggers come along all the time that can decisively defeat anti-loggers.

With an AE, the anti-logger can't be installed unless the user allows it.
 

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Actually, if a keylogger has made it onto a system, then it is too late -- the system is compromised.

An anti-executable with Shadow Defender, Rollback Rx or Drive Vaccine\Reboot Restore is better protection in the first place.

Anti-loggers are notoriously unreliable; new keyloggers come along all the time that can decisively defeat anti-loggers.

With an AE, the anti-logger can't be installed unless the user allows it.

@hjlbx Have SBIE+HMP.A+VS(free)+AG is it even practical to include HMP.A in my setup?! Only like it risk reduction features.. Thanks!

Edit: Would replacing HMP.A w/ Tinywall be a better option?!
 
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That's not true, "there is a chance" that other products will detect it too.
No doubt that there is a chance.
But, as I said, these KL simulators are written to be absolutely and obviously detected by the respective vendors.
This doesn't mean that an AV can not detect them via signatures or keystrokes detection.
It can, but these simulators are not the best way to test the AVs in this context.
If real keylogger malware uses GetAsyncKeyState, a common function, then it returns as the key is pressed or not at the time of the call. It is detected because the malware is making a system API call, and it is easily detected by an AV as the hook on Windows messages also.

But if a real keylogger uses hypervisor or kernel-space (virtual machine or driver) for example, it can really hide itself and you can really test a AV in the correct way, not with a simple simulator's test.
 

hypotemuse

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You can give this a try. Ghostpress by Hendrik Schiffer
Ghostpress - Anti-Keylogger
Interesting. Ghostpress seems to be giving system-wide protection (neither Zemana antiLogger free or KeyScrambler free provide system-wide protection, although Zemana antiLogger free didn't work with Windows Edge/Cortana either).

Having said that:

1) non-alphanumeric chars accessed with the shift-key ($^&) are still being logged in Zemana sim test (in Spyshelter they're logged as the corresponding "non-shift" char, so '*' would be logged as '8')
2) somewhat funnily, the minus sign is still being logged

Not entirely encouraging, will test it some more, but certainly not bad if those objections can be addressed.
 

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Interesting. Ghostpress seems to be giving system-wide protection (neither Zemana antiLogger free or KeyScrambler free provide system-wide protection, although Zemana antiLogger free didn't work with Windows Edge/Cortana either).

Having said that:

1) non-alphanumeric chars accessed with the shift-key ($^&) are still being logged in Zemana sim test (in Spyshelter they're logged as the corresponding "non-shift" char, so '*' would be logged as '8')
2) somewhat funnily, the minus sign is still being logged

Not entirely encouraging, will test it some more, but certainly not bad if those objections can be addressed.

You can report problems here (Hendrik Schiffer) .
 
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