Battle Qihoo 360 VS ESET Smart Security 8

[Manzai]

Hello

Are you like ESET or Qihoo

For me

ESET : Good detection, very light but bad in 0-day malware (No configuration)

Qihoo : Very good detection, light but too many false positive and update for BD and Avira engine (1 update / day )

 

[Ink]

@nissimezra Actually you would find that my post is in fact on topic, so before replying look at the first post and then follow the thread through to see (nsm0220) replying to my posts about Zero-day malware.

But let's say my post was off-topic, why did you bother replying stating you use a non-updated OS or Apps (PS: I don't personally care that you don't), but more so, doesn't that make you one to participate in off-topic discussions too.

 

[nissimezra]

I am not in love with UAC so you can disappoint me with the fact that UAC cannot always protect you.
And that's true. But it reduce chances that something will run on the PC unnoticed.

agree.

Qihoo copies detections? I am miss something here, huch? Qihoo have one of the best heuristics in the world and qihoo is most off the time one of the vendors that detect malwares before any other vendor. often it is the first one.Qihoo is the biggest av vendor in asian. im pretty sure they dont copie detections like baidu or other "avs", realy.

who cares if it copies or not as long as it does the job.
the most important thing for me thats it's light very light the 360IS, though i wouldn't use the TS version.

 

[nissimezra]

@nissimezra Actually you would find that my post is in fact on topic, so before replying look at the first post and then follow the thread through to see (nsm0220) replying to my posts about Zero-day malware.

But let's say my post was off-topic, why did you bother replying stating you use a non-updated OS or Apps (PS: I don't personally care that you don't), but more so, doesn't that make you one to participate in off-topic discussions too.

I just replayed to a member post, and didnt say of topic coz its not, the main discussion was who will do better.

no hard filling and lets enjoy discussion off or not
cheers

 

[Malware1]

Qihoo copies detections? I am miss something here, huch? Qihoo have one of the best heuristics in the world and qihoo is most off the time one of the vendors that detect malwares before any other vendor. often it is the first one.Qihoo is the biggest av vendor in asian. im pretty sure they dont copie detections like baidu or other "avs", realy.

They do copy, it's done by almost each vendor. I'm not talking about cloud, I'm talking about the local engine.

 

[darko999]

One thing is using another's company Engine so it's perfectly legal and I would say why not?. If they have the money to pay the right to use it, then go for it. Different story would be manually copying what other's signatures catch and traslating that illegaly into their own Uber antivirus engine signatures. In this scenario I would call copy on the second one, I'm okay with the first one, Like Gdata, Emsisoft, an the great amount of AV outhere that use other's AV engine.

 

[BoraMurdar]

One thing is using another's company Engine so it's perfectly legal and I would say why not?. If they have the money to pay the right to use it, then go for it. Different story would be manually copying what other's signatures catch and traslating that illegaly into their own Uber antivirus engine signatures. In this scenario I would call copy on the second one, I'm okay with the first one, Like Gdata, Emsisoft, an the great amount of AV outhere that use other's AV engine.

And most of them are using Bitdefender engine, like it's on sale
There is no AV that could get engine or definitions from Kaspersky, ESET or Norton (PC Tools used to use Norton definitions in the past)

 

[noelis]

I like Qihoo , because it is intuitive to use and makes no problems under windows 8.1. Further , it is interesting to me the software and to track their progress.

 

[nissimezra]

They do copy, it's done by almost each vendor. I'm not talking about cloud, I'm talking about the local engine.

who cares if they copy or not, as long as they delivers the goods.
and I'm using only the cloud engine so I dont care about BD

 

[MisterToto]

Eset for sure!

 

[RmG152]

And most of them are using Bitdefender engine, like it's on sale
There is no AV that could get engine or definitions from Kaspersky, ESET or Norton (PC Tools used to use Norton definitions in the past)

ZoneAlarm

 

[BoraMurdar]

ZoneAlarm

Yep, forgot about ZoneAlarm

 

[RmG152]

I vote ESET, but I don't like to pay for any non-life license...

 

[nsm0220]

btw eset zero day protection doesn't work unless you config it which most users won't do when using an av its more like set and forget

 

[nissimezra]

btw eset zero day protection doesn't work unless you config it which most users won't do when using an av its more like set and forget

agree, even if you config ESET it become buggy. I tried it doesnt help
for now the best free AV on the market is 360IS and one of the paid

 

[darko999]

agree, even if you config ESET it become buggy. I tried it doesnt help
for now the best free AV on the market is 360IS and one of the paid

If you set HIPS to Interactive, which is most people do in order to "Have supposed improved zero day protection" all you get is an annoying behavior which you'll get up to 200 pop's up /hour. The most logical decision would be to have a clean machine, and run "Learning mode for a couple of days or a week", then switching to Interactive mode would be painless or at least acceptable.
In my case I didn't the above, I just added some registry keys which I would like to be notified in case of being modified, plus the major useful And less pop up common "Install global hook, Load driver" and "Debbuging another application, Intercept events from another application, Modify state of another application". I got a few interactions which some applications that used the above noted behaviors, some games which silent antihack tried to modify applications running in the memory,etc. But as I said, just a few ones so creating the rules for them was simple and effective. Then I tested this config preset against most of the files uploaded on these forums and it did great. The fun fact is that half the samples where mostly harmless.

 

[nissimezra]

If you set HIPS to Interactive, which is most people do in order to "Have supposed improved zero day protection" all you get is an annoying behavior which you'll get up to 200 pop's up /hour. The most logical decision would be to have a clean machine, and run "Learning mode for a couple of days or a week", then switching to Interactive mode would be painless or at least acceptable.
In my case I didn't the above, I just added some registry keys which I would like to be notified in case of being modified, plus the major useful And less pop up common "Install global hook, Load driver" and "Debbuging another application, Intercept events from another application, Modify state of another application". I got a few interactions which some applications that used the above noted behaviors, some games which silent antihack tried to modify applications running in the memory,etc. But as I said, just a few ones so creating the rules for them was simple and effective. Then I tested this config preset against most of the files uploaded on these forums and it did great. The fun fact is that half the samples where mostly harmless.

thx for the tips
For me it will be easier just to install 360IS, no config and does the job better than eset and much much cheaper

 

[nsm0220]

thx for the tips
For me it will be easier just to install 360IS, no config and does the job better than eset and much much cheaper

plus it haves a sandbox to play in

 

[darko999]

thx for the tips
For me it will be easier just to install 360IS, no config and does the job better than eset and much much cheaper

I agree it's easier an cheaper, but it does not do a better job. Both are good anyway in their different ways.

 

[Johan Peterson]

If ESET configured correctly after install and not by default, Qihoo has no way to compare to Eset.

 

[nissimezra]

plus it haves a sandbox to play in

the sandbox is not relieable
the main point is if you want something simple for basic user or intermediate user 360IS is the best but unfortunately it will be discontinue and we are back to MSE or forticlient.